> > > > Its already confirmed multiple times that Elites are not playable. - quote
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> > > > We know it is in a caption in GI and a twitter post. That’s why I’m saying “bring elites back.” I think I can speak for most everyone on the forum that posts like that one aren’t helping. We are trying to show 343 how much we want them back with this giant thread. Maybe they will realize how big of an issue this is for their fans and bring them back. 343 can’t you see how awesome it would be if they returned? I hope you’re listening to us.
> > > >
> > > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> > >
> > > A dozen people posting in the same thread day after day is not going to make them code in elites less than half a year from release.
> >
> > cough 483 people thanked the OP cough
> >
> > 483 people that represents a portion of a fairly small chunk of the Halo population. Multiply the percentage into the entire Halo population and we are looking at 5000+.
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> So you twelve guys are just bumping this thread over and over again so that 343i will possibly look at the OP that has a little under five hundred thanks? In the hope of these five hundred thanks that somehow represent ten times that number are going to make them put in playable elites when the game is three or four months out from gold?
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> But anyways, they know how many people play as and like elites. They don’t need you to keep bumping this thread.
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> If you just want to talk about elites in general and their role in the next few Halo games go right ahead. I’d enjoy reading that. But don’t kid yourselves into thinking you’re making some huge impact. None of you will be the next MLK and it’s laughable that several of you have brought up that reference.
Not gonna lie, having worked with mods for character skins/models in the past. Adding a character model to multiplayer is something a single person can do in a couple of days, especially since most of the work is already in the game, as the model has been made for Campaign, and would just need to be “shaped” to a Spartan’-Yoink!- frame. Which means 10 people could do the Elite, and all of their different Campaign Ranks, in probably 2 days.
> Not gonna lie, having worked with mods for character skins/models in the past. Adding a character model to multiplayer is something a single person can do in a couple of days, especially since most of the work is already in the game, as the model has been made for Campaign, and would just need to be “shaped” to a Spartan’-Yoink!- frame. Which means 10 people could do the Elite, and all of their different Campaign Ranks, in probably 2 days.
>
> Yeah, that’s REALLY a big problem/setback.
> > cough 483 people thanked the OP cough
> >
> > 483 people that represents a portion of a fairly small chunk of the Halo population. Multiply the percentage into the entire Halo population and we are looking at 5000+.
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> They have the numbers of how many people played as Elites in Halo 3. It could be a 100,000, it still wouldn’t matter. A lot of people wanting something doesn’t mean 343 has to do it. See; armor abilities still existing, ranking not being 1-50.
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> Fact of the matter is, more people hate Elites being in MP than people who played as them because it impacts Halo’s arena style mechanics. Dramatically different skins are horrible for competitive shooters.
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> > When all is said and done. We will be remembered as the Martin Luther King Jr’s of The Sangheli!
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> Excuse me while I go vomit.
Just gonna throw this out there. But the most basic Arena Shooters in the world, Quake and Unreal Tournament, both use various character models, with seperate hitboxes and in UT’s case, actually vastly unique stat traits and abilities. So character variety is as old as Arena gaming itself.
And anyway, I personally studied the models of the Spartan and Elite as they appear in Halo Reach and discovered that the Elite is the same shape, and proportion as a Spartan, but the Spartan is .8x the size. Which basically means if they took the Reach Elite, and scewed it to 80%, they would have been EXACTLY THE SAME. And therefore a non-issue.
Which is why Elites should come back, done RIGHT, just so people will stop complaining.
As well, MOST of the community members that posted in this forum claimed they don’t play as Elites, but would still want them back. So tbh, I am pretty sure the population that plays as Elites, is bigger than the population that hated them and complained about a non-game changing subtle difference that can be completely nullified if handled correctly. AND there is a wide group of players who want to see them back and DONT play as them.
Heh, I miss playing Unreal Tourny since that game had so many characters and aliens to play as, at least they all had their own hit boxes and such and they still remained balanced to the game. If that game can do it, why not Halo?
> Heh, I miss playing Unreal Tourny since that game had so m any characters and aliens to play as, at least they all had their own hit boxes and such and they still remained balanced to the game. If that game can do it, why not Halo?
YOU MEAN UNREAL TOURNAMENT! I played the second one it was one of the best games I’ve ever played! You could play with AIs and they would still kick your butt. Multiplayer like that deserves a medal.
I don’t get you guys sometimes. All you’re posting is stuff like “its not gonna happen” and “its too late”. We are telling 343 why we want elites back so badly. I could understand you saying why you don’t want them in, but to me, saying its not going to happen is just pointless. I know not everybody understands why we want elites, but at least voice your opinion on whether you want them in and why, and stop stating facts most everybody knows.
I really like to play as an elite and evidently a lot of other people do to. I like to play as them because i find them fasinating. To me its just so cool the play as a giant alien whose culture is focused on war. It also adds some diversity to halo. I liked how in H3 you didn’t always see spartans. Also, they’ve been playable since H2. It seems kind of unfair to take something we’ve had for so long away. Playable elites have worked in all the other halos, and I think they can work in H4.
Please 343, listen to your fans. We want elites back. Don’t let us down.
> > > cough 483 people thanked the OP cough
> > >
> > > 483 people that represents a portion of a fairly small chunk of the Halo population. Multiply the percentage into the entire Halo population and we are looking at 5000+.
> >
> > They have the numbers of how many people played as Elites in Halo 3. It could be a 100,000, it still wouldn’t matter. A lot of people wanting something doesn’t mean 343 has to do it. See; armor abilities still existing, ranking not being 1-50.
> >
> > Fact of the matter is, more people hate Elites being in MP than people who played as them because it impacts Halo’s arena style mechanics. Dramatically different skins are horrible for competitive shooters.
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> > > When all is said and done. We will be remembered as the Martin Luther King Jr’s of The Sangheli!
> >
> > Excuse me while I go vomit.
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> Just gonna throw this out there. But the most basic Arena Shooters in the world, Quake and Unreal Tournament, both use various character models, with seperate hitboxes and in UT’s case, actually vastly unique stat traits and abilities. So character variety is as old as Arena gaming itself.
>
> And anyway, I personally studied the models of the Spartan and Elite as they appear in Halo Reach and discovered that the Elite is the same shape, and proportion as a Spartan, but the Spartan is .8x the size. Which basically means if they took the Reach Elite, and scewed it to 80%, they would have been EXACTLY THE SAME. And therefore a non-issue.
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> Comparison of Halo Reach Spartan/Elite models, Elite scaled to 80% it’s normal size.
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> Which is why Elites should come back, done RIGHT, just so people will stop complaining.
>
> As well, MOST of the community members that posted in this forum claimed they don’t play as Elites, but would still want them back. So tbh, I am pretty sure the population that plays as Elites, is bigger than the population that hated them and complained about a non-game changing subtle difference that can be completely nullified if handled correctly. AND there is a wide group of players who want to see them back and DONT play as them.
When I get home I’m going to overlap those images just for a close comparison.
On a different note I wish the Halo 4 Elites weren’t hunchbacks… They look good except for that.
> > > > > Its already confirmed multiple times that Elites are not playable. - quote
> > > > >
> > > > > We know it is in a caption in GI and a twitter post. That’s why I’m saying “bring elites back.” I think I can speak for most everyone on the forum that posts like that one aren’t helping. We are trying to show 343 how much we want them back with this giant thread. Maybe they will realize how big of an issue this is for their fans and bring them back. 343 can’t you see how awesome it would be if they returned? I hope you’re listening to us.
> > > > >
> > > > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> > > >
> > > > A dozen people posting in the same thread day after day is not going to make them code in elites less than half a year from release.
> > >
> > > cough 483 people thanked the OP cough
> > >
> > > 483 people that represents a portion of a fairly small chunk of the Halo population. Multiply the percentage into the entire Halo population and we are looking at 5000+.
> >
> > So you twelve guys are just bumping this thread over and over again so that 343i will possibly look at the OP that has a little under five hundred thanks? In the hope of these five hundred thanks that somehow represent ten times that number are going to make them put in playable elites when the game is three or four months out from gold?
> >
> > But anyways, they know how many people play as and like elites. They don’t need you to keep bumping this thread.
> >
> > If you just want to talk about elites in general and their role in the next few Halo games go right ahead. I’d enjoy reading that. But don’t kid yourselves into thinking you’re making some huge impact. None of you will be the next MLK and it’s laughable that several of you have brought up that reference.
>
> Not gonna lie, having worked with mods for character skins/models in the past. Adding a character model to multiplayer is something a single person can do in a couple of days, especially since most of the work is already in the game, as the model has been made for Campaign, and would just need to be “shaped” to a Spartan’-Yoink!- frame. Which means 10 people could do the Elite, and all of their different Campaign Ranks, in probably 2 days.
>
> Yeah, that’s REALLY a big problem/setback.
> > Heh, I miss playing Unreal Tourny since that game had so m any characters and aliens to play as, at least they all had their own hit boxes and such and they still remained balanced to the game. If that game can do it, why not Halo?
>
> YOU MEAN UNREAL TOURNAMENT! I played the second one it was one of the best games I’ve ever played! You could play with AIs and they would still kick your butt. Multiplayer like that deserves a medal.
Damn, I only played the 1st game on the PC when I was a kid but at least it was still fun as always.So many games like capture the flag, Slayer, Vip, ect ect…and all while still having so many species in the game was perfect to choose from. Point being, So why the heck cant Halo 4 try to pull off something like that? It’s really not hard to do so.
but if they add elites in halo 4’s mp I want them to add an option for a flood arm.
It would take less time then adding elites or so it seems I say add elites and flood arms for mp.
and for future halo games add bots.
long live elites,flood and bots AND of course HALO !!!
> same with many other points im trying to make
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> but if they add elites in halo 4’s mp I want them to add an option for a flood arm.
> It would take less time then adding elites or so it seems I say add elites and flood arms for mp.
>
> and for future halo games add bots.
>
> long live elites,flood and bots AND of course HALO !!!
Didn’t they say that the flood are not in Halo 4 though? I can only understand the flood part if it was like an infection game or whatever…
does every thing have to be canon ? should forge be canon ?
I just want a flood arm on spartan option I’m not asking the world please give me this if any thing (or mp bots lol)
It wouldn’t be hard or take two long just let us have the option for our spartan to use a flood arm and for mp use and elite.
I dont care if they add human blood or flood blood I just want a sense that im playing as the flood and dont say “go play l4d” please
for halo 4 add elites and an OPTION for our spartans to use a flood arm.
> I just want a flood arm on spartan option I’m not asking the world please give me this if any thing (or mp bots lol)
>
> It wouldn’t be hard or take two long just let us have the option for our spartan to use a flood arm and for mp use and elite.
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> I dont care if they add human blood or flood blood I just want a sense that im playing as the flood and dont say “go play l4d” please
> for halo 4 add elites and an OPTION for our spartans to use a flood arm.
I guess you could create another forum to see if other people want that too, but I’m going to focuss on playable elites.
> does every thing have to be canon ? should forge be canon ?
> I just want a flood arm on spartan option I’m not asking the world please give me this if any thing (or mp bots lol)
>
> It wouldn’t be hard or take two long just let us have the option for our spartan to use a flood arm and for mp use and elite.
>
> I dont care if they add human blood or flood blood I just want a sense that im playing as the flood and dont say “go play l4d” please
> for halo 4 add elites and an OPTION for our spartans to use a flood arm.
I think the reason behined it is 2 reasons.
1: the flood where the “monsters” of the halo universe
2: I don’t know if current tech can do that sort of thing (video game wise) yet
however that would seem nice for halo 5.
now while im unsure if they are playable in custom games., they could be in other modes.
Has anyone else written into game informer or ign? Anyways I’ll have my brother work more on the arum this summer to send in to 343, maybe we can get in as DLC.
