eats popcorn watching the amusement Lol these people are fun to watch when they post silly things to start an argument on the Sangheili thread XD We can post much about Elites on this thread much as we like! ^^ Ah…Spartan fans who like to bash at Elites are sure funny. ^^
> The reason this thread is still showing such great activity is so that, in my opinion, we want see a return of Elites in Halo 5, or something along those lines, to multiplayer. I don’t know about everyone else, but I have accepted that they aren’t in it, and therefore I’m looking towards the future and I will start complaining about how I want them in Halo 5. This is a cycle that won’t end like some people are trying to do, it will only carry on.
I’m starting to feel kinda saddened about this thread loosing it’s touch…I mean, so much support and such in the beginning…but to see it all come down to this. I didn’t want to accept to ever be a spartan but now…They Elites better come back at some point, might as well send us out with a bang or something…
No need to be sad! D: There’s plenty of support here! Don’t listen to those people who are bashing at Sangheili. Don’t lose hope! I’m staying strong on hoping Elites will be playable in H4. 
> > Seriously though, i’d rather they not put them in competitive in halo 4, and they make a Spin-off/new trilogy of the arbiter or other elites, that way we’d get a dedicated elite multiplayer.
>
> Sure, it would be great, but who would buy it? We are surrounded by spartan supremacists, who hate the very sight of elites. 343i would be skinned alive for creating such a game.
>
> No, we wont get our own game. There arent enough people to buy it.
I’m pretty sure that most of the halo community wouldn’t care if they played as an elite or not. Even if spartans were in the multiplayer, elites would have to be implemented seeing as it’s following elites in the story.
GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
Start at 0:47.
> GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
>
> Logic works wonders
>
> Start at 0:47.
My fear’s are slightly alleviated. However I’m gonna remain skeptical probably until launch.
So we have confirmation that Sangheli will not be playable in Matchmaking. I’m not gonna take that statement and blow it up into some conspiracy theory. But our fight is far from over.
I think it’s time to expand our horizon’s. It may be too late for Halo 4, however if this thread were to remain active until Halo 5 we may get at the least some recognition by 343.
If Avu Med’Telcam would be so kind. I think this thread should be changed to “Sangheli (Elite’s) in Halo Matchmaking” To reflect our vision as beyond just one game.
Let’s focus our effort’s on suggesting balance idea’s to 343 until we can form a vision of Elite’s in multiplayer that all fan’s can agree on, Spartan or Elite (or that guy who like’s ODST’s!) and that fit’s into this new established “multiplayer canon”.
Who’s with me?
> GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
>
> Logic works wonders
>
> Start at 0:47.
We knew the covenant were in the game a long time ago, and yes, trhough logical thoughts, the enemy of my enemy is my friend so eventually we fight beside them… But they still arent playable…
Ah well, so long as i can at least fight beside them.
> GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
>
> Logic works wonders
>
> Start at 0:47.
We knew that already.
Rav: Either scale them down to Spartan size, adjusting the hitboxes as needed with minor playlist restrictions (MLG/SWAT only, when/if proven that they really do affect game balance), or alter the Elite’s properties to make sure Elites and Spartans take the same amount of time and skill to kill. Really the only two options.
> > GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
> >
> > Logic works wonders
> >
> > Start at 0:47.
>
> My fear’s are slightly alleviated. However I’m gonna remain skeptical probably until launch.
>
> So we have confirmation that Sangheli will not be playable in Matchmaking. I’m not gonna take that statement and blow it up into some conspiracy theory. But our fight is far from over.
>
> I think it’s time to expand our horizon’s. It may be too late for Halo 4, however if this thread were to remain active until Halo 5 we may get at the least some recognition by 343.
>
> If Avu Med’Telcam would be so kind. I think this thread should be changed to “Sangheli (Elite’s) in Halo Matchmaking” To reflect our vision as beyond just one game.
>
> Let’s focus our effort’s on suggesting balance idea’s to 343 until we can form a vision of Elite’s in multiplayer that all fan’s can agree on, Spartan or Elite (or that guy who like’s ODST’s!) and that fit’s into this new established “multiplayer canon”.
>
> Who’s with me?
Honestly, i hoped it wouldnt come to this. But you are right. I said this a while back on this thread, if they are confirmed out of halo 4, we can at least be a message that we want them back, be it this game or the next.
Balanced? Reachs elites, scale them down and make them as weak as spartans. Instant, they are now fine. At least as far as i can tell.
Now as for canon. They could be simply an AI who had done extensive research on all elite combat styles, and now runs them through the simulations as holograms. If they so choose spartans could have the option to select an elite character model, so as to help other targets practice againts a potential enemy.
Hehe, that guy who likes ODSTs (Cough cough guilty cough)…
> > GOD I LOVE BEING RIGHT! lol… and you all thought elites are going to be dropped by the wayside…
> >
> > Logic works wonders
> >
> > Start at 0:47.
>
> We knew that already.
If you guessed that, then good. And yes, this thread is directed at the multiplayer aspects of it, but many postings which I’ve seen in here are also scared if elites were dropped all together, then the shift would be to make forerunner allies. That video above is fairly straightforward that the covenant are not done and basically this game is designed around the UNSC at the moment. Beyond that? We are going to be seeing Elites and the former covenant factions in future Halo installments.
Alright so far here’s what I got. I will update this post with more suggestion’s if it need’s it.
Elite Model:
- Scaled down to Spartan IV size for multiplayer.
- Stand’s Tall like Reach Elite’s. Should resolve the shooting from behind issue.
- No copy and paste Hitbox’s from the Spartan model. Alleviate hit detection issue’s.
Playlist’s their banned in:
MLG
SWAT
Ranked TS
Ranked Objective
Playlist’s there allowed in:
Social Slayer
Social Objective
Multi-Team
Grifball
Social Big Team
Invasion (if it’s still in)
Social FFA.
Infection.
Canon multiplayer reason: The Sangheli are the deadliest known opponent a Spartan can face on the battlefield.
Due to recent advance’s in the field of Neuroscience by Forerunner tech, The process originally used to map the neural pathway’s of a Human brain for smart AI creation can now be used on Sangheli due to Dr. Magnusson from ONI’s research station Trevelyan (Onyx) successfully mapping the brain of Jul’Mdama.
Using the data Dr. Magnusson uploaded to the Infinity. Shipboard AI and even Spartan IV personnel in the Holo-Projector are able to take the form of a Sangheli based on the captured Jul’Mdama, Including tactic’s, thought process’s and muscle movement due to understanding of Sangheli physiology. With variation’s in armor and weaponry gathered from battlefield experience with other Sangheli armor class’s and other source’s.
However the process is incomplete and Sangheli avatar’s can only be generated for certain scenario’s. Leaving blank’s in critical scenario’s such as Rigorous Training (MLG) and Live Fire No-Shielding excersize’s (SWAT).
Comment’s, Criticism’s etc. Elite’s can work if some effort is applied.
> > I still have yet to see any proof that they are not playable in any aspect.
>
> Here we go:
> https://twitter.com/#!/DavidEllis/status/200700300552708098
That is multiplayer, probably Matchmaking, in fact.
I’m talking about custom games, forge, etc.
> Alright so far here’s what I got. I will update this post with more suggestion’s if it need’s it.
>
> Elite Model:
> 1. Scaled down to Spartan IV size for multiplayer.
> 2. Stand’s Tall like Reach Elite’s. Should resolve the shooting from behind issue.
> 3. No copy and paste Hitbox’s from the Spartan model. Alleviate hit detection issue’s.
>
> Playlist’s their banned in:
> MLG
> SWAT
> Ranked TS
> Ranked Objective
>
> Playlist’s there allowed in:
> Social Slayer
> Social Objective
> Multi-Team
> Grifball
> Social Big Team
> Invasion (if it’s still in)
> Social FFA.
> Infection.
>
> Canon multiplayer reason: The Sangheli are the deadliest known opponent a Spartan can face on the battlefield.
>
> Due to recent advance’s in the field of Neuroscience by Forerunner tech, The process originally used to map the neural pathway’s of a Human brain for smart AI creation can now be used on Sangheli due to Dr. Magnusson from ONI’s research station Trevelyan (Onyx) successfully mapping the brain of Jul’Mdama.
>
> Using the data Dr. Magnusson uploaded to the Infinity. Shipboard AI and even Spartan IV personnel in the Holo-Projector are able to take the form of a Sangheli based on the captured Jul’Mdama, Including tactic’s, thought process’s and muscle movement due to understanding of Sangheli physiology. With variation’s in armor and weaponry gathered from battlefield experience with other Sangheli armor class’s and other source’s.
>
> However the process is incomplete and Sangheli avatar’s can only be generated for certain scenario’s. Leaving blank’s in critical scenario’s such as Rigorous Training (MLG) and Live Fire No-Shielding excersize’s (SWAT).
>
> Comment’s, Criticism’s etc. Elite’s can work if some effort is applied.
Kinda like Reach if you ask me but I would go with this if they put the Elites in Matchmaking back. I would like Elites in SWAT and Objective 
> > Alright so far here’s what I got. I will update this post with more suggestion’s if it need’s it.
> >
> > Elite Model:
> > 1. Scaled down to Spartan IV size for multiplayer.
> > 2. Stand’s Tall like Reach Elite’s. Should resolve the shooting from behind issue.
> > 3. No copy and paste Hitbox’s from the Spartan model. Alleviate hit detection issue’s.
> >
> > Playlist’s their banned in:
> > MLG
> > SWAT
> > Ranked TS
> > Ranked Objective
> >
> > Playlist’s there allowed in:
> > Social Slayer
> > Social Objective
> > Multi-Team
> > Grifball
> > Social Big Team
> > Invasion (if it’s still in)
> > Social FFA.
> > Infection.
> >
> > Canon multiplayer reason: The Sangheli are the deadliest known opponent a Spartan can face on the battlefield.
> >
> > Due to recent advance’s in the field of Neuroscience by Forerunner tech, The process originally used to map the neural pathway’s of a Human brain for smart AI creation can now be used on Sangheli due to Dr. Magnusson from ONI’s research station Trevelyan (Onyx) successfully mapping the brain of Jul’Mdama.
> >
> > Using the data Dr. Magnusson uploaded to the Infinity. Shipboard AI and even Spartan IV personnel in the Holo-Projector are able to take the form of a Sangheli based on the captured Jul’Mdama, Including tactic’s, thought process’s and muscle movement due to understanding of Sangheli physiology. With variation’s in armor and weaponry gathered from battlefield experience with other Sangheli armor class’s and other source’s.
> >
> > However the process is incomplete and Sangheli avatar’s can only be generated for certain scenario’s. Leaving blank’s in critical scenario’s such as Rigorous Training (MLG) and Live Fire No-Shielding excersize’s (SWAT).
> >
> > Comment’s, Criticism’s etc. Elite’s can work if some effort is applied.
>
> Kinda like Reach if you ask me but I would go with this if they put the Elites in Matchmaking back. I would like Elites in SWAT and Objective
I feel your pain brother, actually Objective might be a tad unreasonable. But we need to make compromise sometimes for the greater effort.
Well think for a second. Multiplayer’s new home is a VR battle simulator aboard a human ship the UNSC Infinity.
The Covenant are back for some reason (i’m eager to see why, after reading Glasslands I was sure the Covenant had falled apart) and we’ve seen pictures of Sangheli fighting Chief.
This being said, an Elite playable model on a human VR simulator wouldn’t make much sense.
The Elites fighting for the Covenant could be traitors to their homeworld of Sanghelios, but then again, Thel 'Vadam could also be against the humans once more.
Now, from what I know, Elites will not be playable in Halo 4. In fact, I read they will be replaced by something else.
Possibly another alien? Possibly i’m falling for some chump who decided to write random things.
I personally think, you will be able to choose between being a Spartan II, III, or IV.
The different Spartan models would have different running speeds, length of time they can sprint, height they can jump, even how tall they are. That’s just what I think though.
> Well think for a second. Multiplayer’s new home is a VR battle simulator aboard a human ship the UNSC Infinity.
>
> The Covenant are back for some reason (i’m eager to see why, after reading Glasslands I was sure the Covenant had falled apart) and we’ve seen pictures of Sangheli fighting Chief.
> This being said, an Elite playable model on a human VR simulator wouldn’t make much sense.
> The Elites fighting for the Covenant could be traitors to their homeworld of Sanghelios, but then again, Thel 'Vadam could also be against the humans once more.
>
> <mark>Now, from what I know, Elites will not be playable in Halo 4. In fact, I read they will be replaced by something else.</mark>
>
> Possibly another alien? Possibly i’m falling for some chump who decided to write random things.
>
> I personally think, you will be able to choose between being a Spartan II, III, or IV.
>
> The different Spartan models would have different running speeds, length of time they can sprint, height they can jump, even how tall they are. That’s just what I think though.
That is one reason why I’m getting mixed messages and my doubts on H4. This is not the first time I heard about the Elites in that matter I heard about that from a friend on Deviantart and boy were we pissed. I sure as hell hope that 343 doesn’t do this. Elites are part of the reason Halo was so successful besides the Master Chief
> Well think for a second. Multiplayer’s new home is a VR battle simulator aboard a human ship the UNSC Infinity.
>
> The Covenant are back for some reason (i’m eager to see why, after reading Glasslands I was sure the Covenant had falled apart) and we’ve seen pictures of Sangheli fighting Chief.
> This being said, an Elite playable model on a human VR simulator wouldn’t make much sense.
> The Elites fighting for the Covenant could be traitors to their homeworld of Sanghelios, but then again, Thel 'Vadam could also be against the humans once more.
>
> Now, from what I know, Elites will not be playable in Halo 4. In fact, I read they will be replaced by something else.
>
> Possibly another alien? Possibly i’m falling for some chump who decided to write random things.
>
> I personally think, you will be able to choose between being a Spartan II, III, or IV.
>
> The different Spartan models would have different running speeds, length of time they can sprint, height they can jump, even how tall they are. That’s just what I think though.
The stated purpose was to train Spartan IV Personnel. I fail to see how Spartan on Spartan training would be effective when your actual opponent would probably never be a Spartan.
As for the Elite’s being replaced. I’m almost certain that was a rumor started by Halo4Follower because he said it in a video I cannot link due to the new enemy leak being mentioned. And we all know how spot on Halo4Follower is…
Until someone from 343 or other credible source state’s something. It’s safe to say Spartan’s may be the only playable multiplayer model’s.
Idk who’s making that rumor about the Elites its just that when I heard about it, me and a friend of mine got mad and he’s threatening to boycott on it if the Elites aren’t gonna be in H4 and being replaced which I hope this isn’t the case and I’m hoping it’ll be a rumor only.
> Idk who’s making that rumor about the Elites its just that when I heard about it, me and a friend of mine got mad and he’s threatening to boycott on it if the Elites aren’t gonna be in H4 and being replaced which I hope this isn’t the case and I’m hoping it’ll be a rumor only.
Elites not being playable in competitive Matchmaking isn’t a rumor, it came from a photo caption in the Halo 4 Game Informer article
> Competitive Multiplayer focuses on the Spartan IVs. Elites will not be playable.
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Here is the latest confirmation:
From Ellis himself