Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

> > > > > we still have months to go it is not set in stone
> > > >
> > > > nope. Its already set in stone. Get over it.
> > >
> > > what is IT
> > > IT my freind…for you is competetive multiplayer
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> > David ellis confirmed it for MULTIPLAYER! MULTIPLAYER! Which includes Competitive. Dont cry at release if there is no elite playable.
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> you realized that your constant yelling of Elites not being in mutli-player is not going to win your case against hundreds of elites players right? this is pretty pointless for you to continue.

LoL and you little kids cant change the decision 343 already made. so?

> > > > > > we still have months to go it is not set in stone
> > > > >
> > > > > nope. Its already set in stone. Get over it.
> > > >
> > > > what is IT
> > > > IT my freind…for you is competetive multiplayer
> > >
> > > David ellis confirmed it for MULTIPLAYER! MULTIPLAYER! Which includes Competitive. Dont cry at release if there is no elite playable.
> >
> > you realized that your constant yelling of Elites not being in mutli-player is not going to win your case against hundreds of elites players right? this is pretty pointless for you to continue.
>
> LoL and you little kids cant change the decision 343 already made. so?

The little kids are probably older then you and I can tell judging that you actually called someone kid on the internet.

> > > > sorry to burst your bubble but they did indeed comfirm elites will not be in matchmaking. they said that matchmaking will tell a story and it is SPARTANS in training grounds training for war. i would like to see elites back because they are fun to use sometimes but they will not be returning.
> > >
> > > elites were confirmed out of COMPETATIVE.
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> > > nothing was ever said about Social/Casual/Forge/Customs
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> > Elites were confirmed out of MULTIPLAYER!
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> Elites were confirmed out of COMPETATIVE MULTIPLAYER.
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> that doesn not include all multiplayer

Wow… nope. Ellis confirmed it for Multiplayer.
Grow up and accept it please. PLEASE. How old are you btw? 12?
Hopefully angel will tell you guys that tomorrow.

PS:
Competitive is Multiplayer btw.

> > > > > > > we still have months to go it is not set in stone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nope. Its already set in stone. Get over it.
> > > > >
> > > > > what is IT
> > > > > IT my freind…for you is competetive multiplayer
> > > >
> > > > David ellis confirmed it for MULTIPLAYER! MULTIPLAYER! Which includes Competitive. Dont cry at release if there is no elite playable.
> > >
> > > you realized that your constant yelling of Elites not being in mutli-player is not going to win your case against hundreds of elites players right? this is pretty pointless for you to continue.
> >
> > LoL and you little kids cant change the decision 343 already made. so?
>
> The little kids are probably older then you and I can tell judging that you actually called someone kid on the internet.

haha are you sure? Im not this ignorant and think that 343 will listen to a small group of kids that liked elites in Halo MP. They are out. And im probably older than you guys. Seriously. You guys need to accept it.

> > > > > > > > we still have months to go it is not set in stone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > nope. Its already set in stone. Get over it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what is IT
> > > > > > IT my freind…for you is competetive multiplayer
> > > > >
> > > > > David ellis confirmed it for MULTIPLAYER! MULTIPLAYER! Which includes Competitive. Dont cry at release if there is no elite playable.
> > > >
> > > > you realized that your constant yelling of Elites not being in mutli-player is not going to win your case against hundreds of elites players right? this is pretty pointless for you to continue.
> > >
> > > LoL and you little kids cant change the decision 343 already made. so?
> >
> > The little kids are probably older then you and I can tell judging that you actually called someone kid on the internet.
>
> haha are you sure? Im not this not ignorant and think that 343 will listen to a small group of kids that liked elites in Halo MP. They are out. And im probably older than you guys. Seriously. You guys need to accept it.

Well you won’t pass on your point if you keep calling people kids or try making them look inferior with your manner of speech. We know that they aren’t listening to us and that was obvious a month ago, but we keep posting, thats what we have left and heck, why not keep posting?

> Wow… nope. Ellis confirmed it for Multiplayer.

you keep saying that but you dont provide any proof.

> Grow up and accept it please. PLEASE. How old are you btw? 12?

im 16. The fact that you use texting acronyms proves that you are at LEAST 13.

> Hopefully angel will tell you guys that tomorrow.

tell us what? that Elites were confirmed out of Competative only and not all Multiplayer?

> PS:
> Competitive is Multiplayer btw.

Go play Reach, there is multiple sections to it. Competative, Community, Invasion, and Cooperative. All of those are multiplayer, but only one is Competative.

then go play Halo 3, there is also multiple sections to it. Ranked, Social, and 7 on 7. Ranked is the only one concidered Competative.

And to prove you wrong even more, Custom Games and Forge are multiplayer, do you concier Custom Games and Forge competative? Because im pretty sure that there is no “competition” going on unless youre 1v1 with someone, or Clan battling

> haha are you sure? Im not this ignorant and think that 343 will listen to a small group of kids that liked elites in Halo MP. They are out. And im probably older than you guys. Seriously. You guys need to accept it.

For your information, I am 20 years old, I go to college, I own my own Chevy cobalt, and I have a job. What exactly do you have then to proof that you are any older? Besides, I may be old, but I still support on this thread.

> > haha are you sure? Im not this ignorant and think that 343 will listen to a small group of kids that liked elites in Halo MP. They are out. And im probably older than you guys. Seriously. You guys need to accept it.
>
> For your information, I am 20 years old, I go to college, I own my own Chevy cobalt, and I have a job. What exactly do you have then to proof that you are any older? Besides, I may be old, but I still support on this thread.

i think iDiscoDieter is too young to know what a Chevy Cobalt is

> haha are you sure? Im not this ignorant and think that 343 will listen to a small group of kids that liked elites in Halo MP. They are out. And im probably older than you guys. Seriously. You guys need to accept it.

…How old are you again? Plz act your age if you’re older. I wouldn’t be saying any of that about 343 if I were you on this thread. crosses arms >(

My face right now.

Gent’s and ladies,

Let me remind you this thread exists for a purpose. To discuss elites in Halo 4 Matchmaking. If you wish to start a petition about getting them in, you need to do it officially, and off of this site. Petitions are not permitted under the Rules and Guidelines. If you want to discuss things civilly rather then insulting each other, please do so. For the record, I am not a moderator, but I can say if a moderator read the last bunch of postings, they would lock this thread. So to get back on topic…

According to the Game Informer article I am currently looking at:

Competitive Multiplayer is about Spartan IV’s. Elites will not be playable.

If you have to confirm this, take no bigger look then Halo: Reach’s current scheme setup and put 2 and 2 together. All of the playlists under “competitive” are possibly not going to see elites. If you ask me right now? I have a gut feeling the G.I. article simply didn’t want to bluntly say it: There is no elites in Halo 4 matchmaking entirely.

> My face right now.

Her hair reminds me of trix yogurt… Mmmmm…

> If you have to confirm this, take no bigger look then Halo: Reach’s current scheme setup and put 2 and 2 together. All of the playlists under “competitive” are possibly not going to see elites. If you ask me right now? I have a gut feeling the G.I. article simply didn’t want to bluntly say it: There is no elites in Halo 4 matchmaking entirely.

That’s the conclusion I’ve come to. Elites have always been a side show for Bungie, and I didn’t really think 343 would even bother. Plus, there’s really not enough of a community for 343 to listen to, and I see far too much begging and bargaining in this thread. I understand that we need to be open to negotiation, but relegating us to Forge and Customs only? What’s the point, then? May as well not bother with implementing them at all.

Come on guys. Stop argueing over this pointless stuff. it’s useless.

Back to the subject of the forum. we are not whining or yelling at 343 that elites have to be in halo 4. We are just expressing our opinions of their desicion to take playable elites out of competative multiplayer. Most of us would like to see them return and are telling 343 that. All of you that say "343 said this so get over it cause its never gonna " are just putting useless posts on this thread. How do know 343 won’t change their minds? I believe if they get enough positive feed back from us we could have an affect on them.
I want playable elites in halo 4 because it would make the game more fun for me. Is it so wrong for fans to give a company their feedback. Please be constructive and simply say if you want elites back or not and why. We have these forums so 343 can seewhat we do and don’t like. I like to play as an elite so I’m going to fight for them on this forum. I hope this helps.

BRING BACK ELITES 343!!!

> > > I for one am glad that I don’t have to play as a Big happy Alien. Squid Lips<Spartans. That is all.
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> > lolwat? If you found a halo game that forces you to play as elites in MM (other then invasion) please direct me to it
>
> Halo 3 SWAT.

does that FORCE you or does it make you play vs them?

> Come on guys. Stop argueing over this pointless stuff. it’s useless.
>
> Back to the subject of the forum. we are not whining or yelling at 343 that elites have to be in halo 4. We are just expressing our opinions of their desicion to take playable elites out of competative multiplayer. Most of us would like to see them return and are telling 343 that. All of you that say "343 said this so get over it cause its never gonna " are just putting useless posts on this thread. How do know 343 won’t change their minds? I believe if they get enough positive feed back from us we could have an affect on them.
> I want playable elites in halo 4 because it would make the game more fun for me. Is it so wrong for fans to give a company their feedback. Please be constructive and simply say if you want elites back or not and why. We have these forums so 343 can seewhat we do and don’t like. I like to play as an elite so I’m going to fight for them on this forum. I hope this helps.
>
> BRING BACK ELITES 343!!!

thank you

> Her hair reminds me of trix yogurt… Mmmmm…

Don’t get me started! D: Now you made me hungry…

> Come on guys. Stop argueing over this pointless stuff. it’s useless.
>
> Back to the subject of the forum. we are not whining or yelling at 343 that elites have to be in halo 4. We are just expressing our opinions of their desicion to take playable elites out of competative multiplayer. Most of us would like to see them return and are telling 343 that. All of you that say "343 said this so get over it cause its never gonna " are just putting useless posts on this thread. How do know 343 won’t change their minds? I believe if they get enough positive feed back from us we could have an affect on them.
> I want playable elites in halo 4 because it would make the game more fun for me. Is it so wrong for fans to give a company their feedback. Please be constructive and simply say if you want elites back or not and why. We have these forums so 343 can seewhat we do and don’t like. I like to play as an elite so I’m going to fight for them on this forum. I hope this helps.
>
> BRING BACK ELITES 343!!!

You sir have just became the awesome hero of this moment. In an epic way that is, thank you.

> Come on guys. Stop argueing over this pointless stuff. it’s useless.

Agreed.

> We are not whining or yelling at 343 that elites have to be in halo 4. We are just expressing our opinions of their decision to take playable elites out of competitive multiplayer.

While I concur most are talking like this, not everyone is. These are the misguided people who are generally posting of their happiness elites are out. Where I stand on this? I like playing as a Spartan, but I do enjoy elite slayer, invasion, and other elite gameplay elements, so my vote would be for them to return, but later on down the road, Halo 4 is pretty clear and precise with its contributions and explanations surrounding Infinity MM.

> Most of us would like to see them return and are telling 343 that. All of you WHICH say "343 said this so get over it cause its never gonna " are just putting useless posts on this thread.

While I do agree those posters could use with a simple talking to about behavior, this is also a role beautifully worked and filled by our Waypoint Moderators. If a post is in violation, click the report button and provide a brief reason what you think the post is in violation of.

> How do know 343 won’t change their minds? I believe if they get enough positive feed back from us we could have an affect on them.

The game informer article stating elites aren’t going to be playable. 343 Industries has a lot of work and reputation to live up to when delivering an experience like Halo 4. The exclusive given to game informer is always under review and nameplate holders are always subject to change, but for example, I can’t see 343 suddenly reversing course and removing jet pack as an armor ability because of a few threads popping up, even if it reached 1,000 pages, and further, creating issues with game informer possibly. Jet Pack, as with no elites in competitive MM, has been quoted, to go back now would cost more then if they stuck to their guns. At this point, my post is actually the most helpful: hope for the best, but prepare for them not being in there.

> I want playable elites in halo 4 because it would make the game more fun for me. Is it so wrong for fans to give a company their feedback?

Only when its done in a non-constructive, flame free manner. This is not to say those are the only reasons, but giving feedback from the online community is also only one aspect. The bigger picture here begs for questions to be answered, and so far, no one can reply to why they should be in MM beyond it would please them. What elements of canon, competitiveness (the Halo 3 back of the head issue for example), and other related relevancies should be sacrified for less than 100 people (from this Waypoint community)?

> > Come on guys. Stop argueing over this pointless stuff. it’s useless.
>
> Agreed.

It’s not pointless. Alot of us literally consider the Elites OUR Halo. I for one don’t even read the UNSC parts of the Halo books, because as far as I can see, the UNSC portions are all just your basic Gung-Ho Military crap you can find in almost any video game, movie, or book.

> > We are not whining or yelling at 343 that elites have to be in halo 4. We are just expressing our opinions of their decision to take playable elites out of competitive multiplayer.
>
> While I concur most are talking like this, not everyone is. These are the misguided people who are generally posting of their happiness elites are out. Where I stand on this? I like playing as a Spartan, but I do enjoy elite slayer, invasion, and other elite gameplay elements, so my vote would be for them to return, but later on down the road, Halo 4 is pretty clear and precise with its contributions and explanations surrounding Infinity MM.

Plot in Multiplayer doesn’t matter, and never will. So the fact that they feel they need to add it, and use it to justify the removal of Elites makes no sense to me.

> > I want playable elites in halo 4 because it would make the game more fun for me. Is it so wrong for fans to give a company their feedback?
>
> Only when its done in a non-constructive, flame free manner. This is not to say those are the only reasons, but giving feedback from the online community is also only one aspect. The bigger picture here begs for questions to be answered, and so far, no one can reply to why they should be in MM beyond it would please them. What elements of canon, competitiveness (the Halo 3 back of the head issue for example), and other related relevancies should be sacrified for less than 100 people (from this Waypoint community)?

Firstly: Elements of Canon are pointless in Multiplayer, meaning that it shouldn’t affect it to begin with. The fact that 343i is even trying to plug it in there is little more than a completely redundant gimmick that will be ignored by players all over the world.

Secondly: Competitiveness issues in Halo 3 were derived from poor modeling. Learning from past mistakes and fixing problems is all it takes to fix that. For instance, Instead of leaning the neck forward, position it upward, like the Reach model, and simply shrink it. We now have a perfectly fair model for multiplayer.

And Finally: not 100 people, at least 450 so far (likes on OP). And that’s just from the actually fairly small community that visits Halo Waypoint.

Anyway, I’m seriously not even considering buying Halo 4 anymore. The only reason I even played Reach was the hope that the Elite clan I was in could carry over. I don’t even count Reach as a Halo game, because it doesn’t play, look, or even feel like one. Like Street Fighter 2000 (yes it exists, no it isn’t actually a Street Fighter game). And now that they’ve confirmed Elites are out, meaning the clan I’m in holds no meaning to me anymore, AND they’ve confirmed Halo 4 is more of a “Reach 2” than anything. I have no reason to buy it.