> I have to agree with that. Every time Elite Slayer pops up, no one picks it and it hardly show up too. Hence the reason I play Invasion, its fun, I enjoy getting stealing Banshees, and I get to play my Elites through half of it. Though it be better if they brought Halo 3’s “it doesn’t matter what playlist” setting. Though I much rather prefer that Elites be in Halo 4 in general.
As long as we aren’t playing as hunch backs that’s for sure. I mean, we already have new armor, new weapons, now I prefer seeing some new vehicles around also.
I am pretty sure it was confirmed somewhere that covi weapons and vehicles were in matchmaking. On another note there are only two types of multi-player: competitive and co-operative. Competitive deals with all player vs players scenarios including forge. Co-operative includes players vs AI modes like co-op campaign, spartan ops and if they didn’t scrap it in h4 (which they did) firefight. Sangheili are not playable at all.
What did you think that SIV’s would be exclusively or prominently fighting the ancient threat? No they will be fighting the Sangheili for most, if not all, of season one. And don’t give me the “they’ll fight humans” approach it has been almost a law in the halo franchise, you can see man vs man but never play man vs man (unless you are betraying your team).
> I am pretty sure it was confirmed somewhere that covi weapons and vehicles were in matchmaking. On another note there are only two types of multi-player: competitive and co-operative. Competitive deals with all player vs players scenarios including forge. Co-operative includes players vs AI modes like co-op campaign, spartan ops and if they didn’t scrap it in h4 (which they did) firefight. Sangheili are not playable at all.
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> What did you think that SIV’s would be exclusively or prominently fighting the ancient threat? No they will be fighting the Sangheili for most, if not all, of season one. And don’t give me the “they’ll fight humans” approach it has been almost a law in the halo franchise, you can see man vs man but never play man vs man (unless you are betraying your team).
Humans and the Elites might or might not fight each other at first…but sooner or later the greater threat is going to catch both of their attention sooner or later.Maybe to form up together like in Halo 3 or whatever…just guessing.
> I am pretty sure it was confirmed somewhere that covi weapons and vehicles were in matchmaking. On another note there are only two types of multi-player: competitive and co-operative. Competitive deals with all player vs players scenarios including forge. Co-operative includes players vs AI modes like co-op campaign, spartan ops and if they didn’t scrap it in h4 (which they did) firefight. Sangheili are not playable at all.
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> What did you think that SIV’s would be exclusively or prominently fighting the ancient threat? No they will be fighting the Sangheili for most, if not all, of season one. And don’t give me the “they’ll fight humans” approach it has been almost a law in the halo franchise, you can see man vs man but never play man vs man (unless you are betraying your team).
in Halo Wars you could do man vs man. Theres the easy-to-realize, put UNSC team against UNSC team. but thats not canon, the canon part is the rebels that you have to fight.
Heh, I already remember how it was not Canon for the Covenant and the UNSC to work together when it came to Mutli-player action, such as teams against teams.
so then…why not place the Elites with the Spartans to play along with each other?
There is a warpath faction and there is a peace treaty faction of sangheili. It could make sense for the sangheili to be on any side of multiplayer, but it would be stupid to remove them. They could be peaceful elites training with the Spartans.
> Heh, I already remember how it was not Canon for the Covenant and the UNSC to work together when it came to Mutli-player action, such as teams against teams.
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> so then…why not place the Elites with the Spartans to play along with each other?
if i could, i would thank youre comment many times with this account
Ah yes, and then there is a machinima that I came of interest just recently called Seekers . Basically it may have been Spartan focused but it also showed that at least not every Sangheili was foolish enough to believe their own forerunner stuff were from gods, and that they want to show their people the wrongs of their own ways. At least it did show that Sangheili could work along with the Spartans for peaceful resolutions and could work together. How could Multi-player be any different than that?
Dear people who keep thinking that we have not read the GI article or just love rubbing it in our faces that they are not in by saying a rewrite of what has been confirmed:
What has been confrimed was “Competitive will be focused on the Spartan IVs”
COMPETITVE
Do you see it? Competitve. That means not all of multiplayer, it means competitve multiplayer.
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
> COMPETITVE
So please, stop trying to tell us what we already know, or saying they are out live with it, and try to come up with a logical reason as to why they should be out.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Silent
And I was just done coming back from the local store to buy me some skittles…
but yes, you got to remember that GI was playing some early beta stuff of Halo 4 at the time. So it could mean that they were not allowed to play as Sangheili because they weren’t allowed to at the time, or the guys at 343 were still trying to fix up on stuff like the animations or what not in Multi-player. Either way, I prefer the Halo 2 and 3 style of MM. Being free to do what we want, however we want, and as anything as we want to.
> So please, stop trying to tell us what we already know, or saying they are out live with it, and try to come up with a logical reason as to why they should be out.
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> Thank you for your cooperation,
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> Silent
conversation between Elite player and Spartan “Pro”
Elite: “Why should Elites be out of Halo 4?”
Spartan: “Her Der because the hitboxes arnt equal”
E: “But they are. theyre just shaped differently”
S: “Urmmm… its harder to get a headshot”
E: “Because you cant adjust your aim at all”
S: “I shouldnt have to im pro”
E: “That doesnt make any sense at all”
S: “it does too”
E: “So if youre pro what you should do is not move your crosshair up or down on the y-axis at all?”
S: “…yes”
E: “sigh well they could always straiten the elites back”
S: “But the elite would be taller!”
E: “Not if they shrink it”
S: “Then that wouldnt follow canon”
E: “-Yoink- THAT! MULTIPLAYER ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT CANON! YOU WANNA KNOW MY STORYLINE BEHING MULTIPLAYER? I WANNA RANK UP AND GET NEW ARMOR AND SPARTAN POINTS SO I CAN BUY STUFF. I DONT GIVE A -Yoink- THAT ‘IM IN A SIMILATION AND ITS TRAINING’ NO ITS NOT. CUSTOM GAMES IS TRAINING, MULTIPLAYER IS THE REAL DEAL. iT DONT NEED A STORY LINE, ONLY ‘MULTIPLAYER STORYLINES’ THERE SHOULD BE IS THIS THING CALLED MACHINIMA!”
S: “sob”
Let’s try not to sound like any Anti-Spartan guys now. I prefer not attracting much trouble while we are at it. Besides, If anyone were to tell us about the Elites looking stupid or whatever, just ignore him or her. Least also give credit to some Spartans supporting the Elite cause also.
> Let’s try not to sound like any Anti-Spartan guys now. I prefer not attracting much trouble while we are at it. Besides, If anyone were to tell us about the Elites looking stupid or whatever, just ignore him or her. Least also give credit to some Spartans supporting the Elite cause also.
Like me…
I love both personally. I just dont want to see a fundamental part of halo wasted because of people complaining about hitbox.
> > Let’s try not to sound like any Anti-Spartan guys now. I prefer not attracting much trouble while we are at it. Besides, If anyone were to tell us about the Elites looking stupid or whatever, just ignore him or her. Least also give credit to some Spartans supporting the Elite cause also.
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> Like me…
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> I love both personally. I just dont want to see a fundamental part of halo wasted because of people complaining about hitbox.
That or because of some Canon story stuff going down. We already know how that went down for Halo Reach…
> > > Let’s try not to sound like any Anti-Spartan guys now. I prefer not attracting much trouble while we are at it. Besides, If anyone were to tell us about the Elites looking stupid or whatever, just ignore him or her. Least also give credit to some Spartans supporting the Elite cause also.
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> > Like me…
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> > I love both personally. I just dont want to see a fundamental part of halo wasted because of people complaining about hitbox.
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> That or because of some Canon story stuff going down. We already know how that went down for Halo Reach…
I dont consider reach canon, at all. They completely rewrot the fall of reach, thats bad…
Canon multiplayer makes sense, but as proven by me on a regular basis is absolutley no good reason to bar elites from multiplayre.
I still wonder why is it so hard to just make the elites stand up straight, Adjust the height to that of the Spartan 4, and to fix up the hit boxes. I know it may take some time to program all of that but still, Elites should have the same equality of that of a Spartan.
The Fall of Reach was a good book and all…but the game was…[sighs]. Makes no sense on why not follow the book instead of completely re-doing it all.
I know. the reach story made almost no sense if you’ve read the books. Why were spartan IIIs on reach? how were they with a spartan II and other military officers? How did Halsey know about them? they were a secret.
Anyways, reach did have a little canon. spartans and elites weren’t on your team unless it was a custom game which made it a little interesting for game modes like invasion but was just keeping us from playing as elites in other games. I don’t think story should get in the way of gameplay in multiplayer. I would much rather be able to play as an elite than have a perfect story.
Lets not forget the fact that when it comes to Forge maps, most of the time it is difficult for the Elite models to fit through a simple door way also. Like I said, I just think its best to tone them down to being as tall as the Spartans, and standing up straighter.
Although i do agree with you guys that the Reach’s campaign should of followed the book, it is still completely canon. Spartan IIIs did exist during that time, and the reason why they were on Reach was because Reach was the heart of the military. All the prototypes and advanced weaponry was there. (such as the DMR).
I have wondered why Jorge, who is a Spartan II, was with Noble and not away on the top secret mission to locate the Covenant homeworld. And then i came to thought, he was no longer officially a Spartan II, he had become a so-to-speak “super Spartan III”.
Halsey knew about the Spartan III project all a long
all the events that happened in Reach actually took place in the Halo Canon. It was a brand new story about how Chief was able to escape, not about Chief actually escaping. And if youre going to say “the book is more canon than the game” you guys need to remember, in the Halo franchise, video games came first, then came the books. the games should be considered more canon then the books, the books are more of the “inbetween” parts. Like Star Wars The Clone Wars, that is a t.v. show giving details and in-depth explenations to what went on inbetween Star Wars II and III. It is not the main source of story, you cant watch the whole series and know everything about Star Wars I, II, and III. All you know is the inbetween story.
> Although i do agree with you guys that the Reach’s campaign should of followed the book, it is still completely canon. Spartan IIIs did exist during that time, and the reason why they were on Reach was because Reach was the heart of the military. All the prototypes and advanced weaponry was there. (such as the DMR).
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> I have wondered why Jorge, who is a Spartan II, was with Noble and not away on the top secret mission to locate the Covenant homeworld. And then i came to thought, he was no longer officially a Spartan II, he had become a so-to-speak “super Spartan III”.
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> Halsey knew about the Spartan III project all a long
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> all the events that happened in Reach actually took place in the Halo Canon. It was a brand new story about how Chief was able to escape, not about Chief actually escaping. And if youre going to say “the book is more canon than the game” you guys need to remember, in the Halo franchise, video games came first, then came the books. the games should be considered more canon then the books, the books are more of the “inbetween” parts. Like Star Wars The Clone Wars, that is a t.v. show giving details and in-depth explenations to what went on inbetween Star Wars II and III. It is not the main source of story, you cant watch the whole series and know everything about Star Wars I, II, and III. All you know is the inbetween story.
Either way, the game was still giving us elite players less things to do anyways. Plus the campaign wasnt even all that great, and the guys at bungie had to give the burden of a bad Halo game over to 343i. I love Halo and all, but Reach is just at the bottom of my list.