> This has got to be the biggest thread of all time .
Oh trust me, it’s ganna get bigger so hang onto your helmats.
Good to see the community doing what they can for a cause.
> This has got to be the biggest thread of all time .
There are two on waypoint that are bigger… Both however, are off topic and include BSangel, so they dont count…
However, there are massive threads over on the B.Net that make this look like a dwarf.
ONI aren’t supplying Human weapons. They are supplying Covenant Plasma Weaponry; whether stolen by them or actually manufactured: unknown.
> ONI aren’t supplying Human weapons. They are supplying Covenant Plasma Weaponry; whether stolen by them or actually manufactured: unknown.
maybe… they just found it on the ground…? lol
Ok…but plasma weapons would be a good reason for getting elites back into “non competetive multiplayer”
P.S. Why does 406 thanks seem like 4 times we expected… lol 
thanks elite supporting community
Singed…and signed.
> The book never confirmed that Thel was dead,fact. The Neru Pe Odasima, Also known as the Servants of the Abiding Truth, are engaging against their own race to still cling onto the faith that they serve their gods, Fact.
It’s why I said “if”. There are 4 years between Glasslands and Halo 4, and 2 more Traviss books to come out. Thel could meet his end there; it would be easy for 343i to just kill him off. Most of the Halo fan base just want to fight against Elites again, and don’t really care about the Arbiter. And the Arbiter isn’t really all that important anymore anyway. They’ve wrote off his character. His faction hate Humans just as much as the Servants of Abiding Truth. When Sanghelios’ problems get sorted, the Arbiter is going to have to deal with that, and he will fail. The Elites we fight in Halo 4 are heavily indicant of their continued role as enemies of Humanity. So, I don’t think it would make much sense for them to be on the Infinity.
> > How exactly do you know that last bit? You stated it as fact.
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> By reading Glasslands, comparing their new art direction with that of Halo 2 and Halo 3, looking at how this fan base is disproportionately in favour of fighting the Elites again, and about how most players don’t care for the Arbiter. Glasslands went out of its way to belittle the concept of peace. It sort of vilified the Elites in a way. I don’t see them turning it around and suddenly basing the next book on how it is suddenly possible for them to co-exist. The theme of the novel was no forgiveness, and no forgetting. And then we see that we fight Elites in Halo 4. At this point, it is extremely unlikely, albeit not impossible, that they do not represent the Sangheili as a race.
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> Unless he is, you know, dead.
they wouldnt just kill him off in a book. They would have to show it in-game. Unless 343 wants to make the Halo story -Yoinking!- stupid.
> > The book never confirmed that Thel was dead,fact. The Neru Pe Odasima, Also known as the Servants of the Abiding Truth, are engaging against their own race to still cling onto the faith that they serve their gods, Fact.
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> It’s why I said “if”. There are 4 years between Glasslands and Halo 4, and 2 more Traviss books to come out. Thel could meet his end there; it would be easy for 343i to just kill him off. Most of the Halo fan base just want to fight against Elites again, and don’t really care about the Arbiter. And the Arbiter isn’t really all that important anymore anyway. They’ve wrote off his character. His faction hate Humans just as much as the Servants of Abiding Truth. When Sanghelios’ problems get sorted, the Arbiter is going to have to deal with that, and he will fail. The Elites we fight in Halo 4 are heavily indicant of their continued role as enemies of Humanity. So, I don’t think it would make much sense for them to be on the Infinity.
most of the fan base here wants to play as elites, and elites are going to have to be allies for the MM to make sense, now that we have a cool, yet pointless, story to MM
We can hope that Sangheili are going to be able to play in Custom Games. Please 343i. there are many more Sangheili players in this community than you can imagine. We are all dissapointed right now, however, we hope that Sangheili will be playable in Forge and Custom Games so we can operate our clans outside the MM environment, instead of being forced to stay on Halo 3 or Halo Reach, or disband entirely.
> > The book never confirmed that Thel was dead,fact. The Neru Pe Odasima, Also known as the Servants of the Abiding Truth, are engaging against their own race to still cling onto the faith that they serve their gods, Fact.
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> It’s why I said “if”. There are 4 years between Glasslands and Halo 4, and 2 more Traviss books to come out. Thel could meet his end there; it would be easy for 343i to just kill him off. Most of the Halo fan base just want to fight against Elites again, and don’t really care about the Arbiter. And the Arbiter isn’t really all that important anymore anyway. They’ve wrote off his character. His faction hate Humans just as much as the Servants of Abiding Truth. When Sanghelios’ problems get sorted, the Arbiter is going to have to deal with that, and he will fail. The Elites we fight in Halo 4 are heavily indicant of their continued role as enemies of Humanity. So, I don’t think it would make much sense for them to be on the Infinity.
Geez, I didnt relize you were writing up on the next parts of the Halo series. Care to alaborate on what happends next good sir?
> they wouldnt just kill him off in a book. They would have to show it in-game. Unless 343 wants to make the Halo story -Yoinking!- stupid.
The story already is absurd in a way, from the treatment the Sangheili got in Glasslands. Also, remember from Halo 3 how many people moaned about the Arbiter that Bungie had to sideline him? I hope you do, because that tells us that the majority of this fan base do not care about the Arbiter. Fans like me and you are a minority, and losing us means absolutely nothing to 343i. I wouldn’t put it past 343i to actually kill off Thel in some silly little book anymore.
> Geez, I didnt relize you were writing up on the next parts of the Halo series. Care to alaborate on what happends next good sir?
Anything but a Human-Sangheili alliance. But I’m not repeating myself. I’ve stated why that is most likely not going to happen. You still seem to think that there are “pro-Human” Elites, in order to rationalise away what you see in the opening level of Halo 4 as nothing more than “rogue Elites” (Pirates don’t normally have huge fleets, just saying) , thus you seem to think that it is still a good possibility of having a Human-Sangheili alliance.
Thats why I do my research by reading on the books and such. From the Fall of Reach, to Glasslands. Even played the video games. From what your saying is all just pure opinion of what you think is ganna happend. Continue to deny stuff, but this thread will continue to campaign for the rights of the Sangheili to still be in matchmaking for everyone to be happy about it.
> Thats why I do my research by reading on the books and such. From the Fall of Reach, to Glasslands. Even played the video games.
Well, I didn’t say that you don’t.
> From what your saying is all just pure opinion of what you think is ganna happend.
Well…obviously. It’s just more likely than an alliance and requires fewer extraordinary events.
> Continue to deny stuff, but this thread will continue to campaign for the rights of the Sangheili to still be in matchmaking for everyone to be happy about it.
Never said they shouldn’t be. I still think that excluding them over the Infinity “holodeck” thing is silly.
Elites have been discriminated in Halo since H2. And it wasn’t until Reach, where Bungie vs Ferguson declared that separate was equal, made separate (less fun/played) gametypes for the elites.
Elites and Spartans should be able to play together in unison. So here marks the trial of 343i vs Board of Halo 4.
> Elites have been discriminated in Halo since H2. And it wasn’t until Reach, where Bungie vs Ferguson declared that separate was equal, made separate (less fun/played) gametypes for the elites.
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> Elites and Spartans should be able to play together in unison. So here marks the trial of 343i vs Board of Halo 4.
Hey here’s something funny that came from the news on this website. 343i was explaining some of the new features of Halo 4 that were simply rediculous. Here is something that wsa funny, but ironic.
“Our vision for the Halo 4 multiplayer experience is to continue the tradition of giving you the tools to craft your own custom experience. A lot of these settings can be tweaked, and, right out of the box, you can put the disc in and have the experience you want in system link games, tournaments, etc. Giving players choices, and empowering them to make choices for how they want to play, is a priority for us.”
That’s a joke right? That statement goes against what 343i is doing to our Sangheili Community.
I’m not bothered that they aren’t In MM, as long as they’re in Customgames or Forge. Just make them playable.
> I’m not bothered that they aren’t In MM, as long as they’re in Customgames or Forge. Just make them playable.
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> excluding them over the Infinity “holodeck” thing is silly.
Exactly. If they hyped this up like it was going to be some big story as to why Matchmaking is canonical, and it turns out to be the dumbest, simplest reason: It’s a simulator. That is no reason to toss elites to the side.
I don’t see where they hyped anybody up for elites to be in MP. They had a limited role in reach so i don’t understand why that wasn’t expected to carry over. There is no point for them to simulate an elite fighting session if they aren’t going to be primarily killing elites. plus it isn’t like they haven’t been killing them for the last 30 years or so.