Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

> > If they were just in Custom Games it would be the same as Reach. I personally am looking for improvement back towards the way Halo 3 worked. I’m hoping 343i Will change their mind about MM, but if I have to settle for just Customs, I don’t know if I’ll make the jump to Halo 4. My Halo career is growing extensive. Playing since Halo: Combat Evolved, and playing as an Elite since Halo 2. This all just might be a warning that it’s time to set down the controller.
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> I hope it’s like H3 where you can play as an elite in any gamemode, and elites are customizable. Just make the elites have decent armor.
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> most of the H3 Elite armor looked like -Yoink!-

God I miss having to customize the elites in H3…I mean heck, if they can give the Spartans a large ammount of armor pieces, why not do the same for us?

> God I miss having to customize the elites in H3…I mean heck, if they can give the Spartans a large ammount of armor pieces, why not do the same for us?

I miss the colors on H3 at least they’re better than in Reach. I have to wear yellow instead of gold cause Reach’s gold looks like bronze! H3 and H2 is yellow for gold I can’t see gold in Reach! X.X My poor eyes!

I think when the elites eyes are black its cool

There’s no reason why Elites would not be playable for anything apart from campaign and multiplayer. I can understand why they wouldn’t be playable for the multiplayer.

I thnk that the Servants of Abiding truth have won and killed Thel 'Vadam

This Elite Zealot is among the troops that attack Master Chief aboard the Forward Unto Dawn. While it’s not clear exactly why the Covenant are out for human blood once again, you can look to the recent Karen Traviss Glasslands novel for hints. In that story, a radical religious sect of Elites comes to odds against both the rest of the Covenant as well as humanity. The Covenant and their appearance near the strange world called Requiem likely has something to do with the fallout from that conflict.

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> I thnk that the Servants of Abiding truth have won and killed Thel 'Vadam
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> This Elite Zealot is among the troops that attack Master Chief aboard the Forward Unto Dawn. While it’s not clear exactly why the Covenant are out for human blood once again, you can look to the recent Karen Traviss Glasslands novel for hints. In that story, a radical religious sect of Elites comes to odds against both the rest of the Covenant as well as humanity. The Covenant and their appearance near the strange world called Requiem likely has something to do with the fallout from that conflict.
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> check this

Your source of information for the Servants of the Abiding Truth killing off Thel is Vauge. We dont even know what if he is alive or not, plus we dont know if that is the same guys from Glasslands or not anyways. No way the Arbiter would die so easily.

Posting to show my support to bring those handsome guys back into action!

I will be royally ticked, if they remove the Elites from Multiplayer, I do not play well as a Spartan. Too light, too nimble, too frail, and I like the heaviness of an Elite on my controller (Of course, entirely my opinion). Not everybody wants to play as Spartan, but not everyone wants to be an Elite either and all gamers should have the right to choose their appearance in terms of Multiplayer. Nor should Elites be limited to a singular playlist, Bungie didn’t do that in Halo 3 and that’s why it’s still one of the most popular Online Gaming experiences. The best part about Halo 3’s Elites was that if you chose to appear as one, then you stayed as one in the mix of Spartans regardless of Playlist. Good times!

Considering the Multiplayer platform portion of the game isn’t part of the campaign storyline, effectively the line of the campaign shouldn’t transfer over, so I don’t see the need to remove them at all. I know there’s tons of complaints going towards Elites being easier to shoot/harder to bring down, ect. Although I think that’s all just based on skill, like selecting a weapon you know you’re good at using. shrug During Halo 3’s rise, I used to play as an Elite constantly, I’d get 30 kills or more on both Spartans and Elites, what you play as has nothing to do with it, it’s how you play.

Glasslands was set after the war, yet for 343i, their explanation for the Elites looking so hideous in Halo 4 (Which is supposedly going to be set in the future) was that they were less advanced (lolwut). So in terms because their technology was limited due to their reliance on the Covenant, they had to look like a bunch of scaley, swamp dwelling ogres? …WHAT.

The assassinations the Elites had in Reach we so epic. Even when you were a Spartan and assassinating an Elite was sick. My favorite of the Elite was when he grabbed the Spartan and was like where do you thing your going. And the Spartan one where he climbs up the Elite was just as good.

If these guys aren’t in multiplayer they will be missed. I guess 343i has their reasons.

> No way the Arbiter would die so easily.

We’re it so easy.

Please, 343, let this thread change your mind.

> > No way the Arbiter would die so easily.
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> We’re it so easy.

“Were” it so easy.

> Please, 343, let this thread change your mind.

Were it so easy.
They are over half way done with the game so I doubt it. But they will without a doubt be missed greatly.

My personal opinion is that you simply can’t kill off Thel, such a major character, in a book. You have to give him some closure in a game. But the way it seems I might be wrong. Either the conflict is still continuing or 'Telcam has won. Both options I’m okay with, as long as Avu is still alive.

Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point. I doubt 343i would be that stupid.

> Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.

Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…

> > Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.
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> Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…

I don’t really like character resurrections. I feel it sort of cheapens the character’s death and the impact it has, and calls into question the true impact of other characters dying.

I also have a weird issue with the identity problems of resurrecting characters who were known to be dead. They can’t really be considered the same person. There is no chance of restoring every brain neuron to the original place in a necrotized brain. Such a thing kinda occurred to me a lot when Bioware brought Cmdr Shephard back to life in Mass Effect 2. It doesn’t annoy me, but it was something that I was aware of though and made me call into question whether that was actually Cmdr Shephard. Of course if it was the intention to relate to the identity issues in the story then sure, I don’t have an issue with it and resurrection can be a useful plot device, but otherwise hand waving it away just to bring a character back to life glosses over it all.

> > > Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.
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> > Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…
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> I don’t really like character resurrections. I feel it sort of cheapens the character’s death and the impact it has, and calls into question the true impact of other characters dying.
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> I also have a weird issue with the identity problems of resurrecting characters who were known to be dead. They can’t really be considered the same person. There is no chance of restoring every brain neuron to the original place in a necrotized brain. Such a thing kinda occurred to me a lot when Bioware brought Cmdr Shephard back to life in Mass Effect 2. It doesn’t annoy me, but it was something that I was aware of though and made me call into question whether that was actually Cmdr Shephard. Of course if it was the intention to relate to the identity issues in the story then sure, I don’t have an issue with it and resurrection can be a useful plot device, but otherwise hand waving it away just to bring a character back to life glosses over it all.

Sgnt Johnson only died once , hard enough coming back the first time.

But seriously, I doubt the really important Halo Characters are dying out anytime soon, especially since this is the new trilogy.

> > Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.
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> Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…

that sounds like a hint to Sargeant Johnson coming back… I hope not. he is a great character, but if he comes back that will make his death not as emotional. it will be like “Oh, he got hurt but made it out”

> > > Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.
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> > Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…
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> that sounds like a hint to Sargeant Johnson coming back… I hope not. he is a great character, but if he comes back that will make his death not as emotional. it will be like “Oh, he got hurt but made it out”

Yeah, he exploded in a massive ball of fire aboard a gigantic ring infested with the flood (yes i know they cant hurt johnson) after taking a laser to the face… But he’s back, i mean, you cant exactly kill him or anything. He just flew on his magic unicorn and landed beside them MC on the ship without anyne seeing him, no biggie.

Seems legit… But i would love an easter egg about johnson, and honestly even though i would be pissed that they brought him back from the daed again, i would be overjoyed.

Johnson>MC anyday.

> > > > Thel won’t be killed off in a book nor a game at this point.
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> > > Like Frank O Connor said, there’s no reason for this franchise to end within twenty years. We may very well see characters who mistakenly “died” in previous Halo titles, come back. If Thel should “die”, your going to see the possibility of him returning. Consider a sci-fi transformation possibility into the Halo loop now people…
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> > I don’t really like character resurrections. I feel it sort of cheapens the character’s death and the impact it has, and calls into question the true impact of other characters dying.
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> > I also have a weird issue with the identity problems of resurrecting characters who were known to be dead. They can’t really be considered the same person. There is no chance of restoring every brain neuron to the original place in a necrotized brain. Such a thing kinda occurred to me a lot when Bioware brought Cmdr Shephard back to life in Mass Effect 2. It doesn’t annoy me, but it was something that I was aware of though and made me call into question whether that was actually Cmdr Shephard. Of course if it was the intention to relate to the identity issues in the story then sure, I don’t have an issue with it and resurrection can be a useful plot device, but otherwise hand waving it away just to bring a character back to life glosses over it all.
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> Sgnt Johnson only died once , hard enough coming back the first time.
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> But seriously, I doubt the really important Halo Characters are dying out anytime soon, especially since this is the new trilogy.

Johnson was an important charachter… SO were the Keys. Geuss what, Flood, spikes and laser faces ruined them…

I doubt however, that they would kill Thel off screen… That would displease many people.