I want the choice between an Elite, an Spartan II, and an Spartan IV. IF NOT MORE.
Oh, and I like the elites in halo 3. It is difficult to make good elite armor.
(343, if Elites come back, please bring back Councilors and CE style Zealots! Elites must be feared again)
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Yes I realize that you are focusing on Avu because he has beaten you in several other arguments in the past. Also, I do not speak just for myself, but for the community which I am apart of.
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I’m sorry if you’re brain works like a dictionary. I used afraid with a different connotation than webster. I was referencing your arrogance and how even though we have provided ample arguments that in my opinion would sway all but the most unreasonable opposers such as yourself.
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It would not bother me that you keep restating your argument if it had not already been countered in several other posts: See above, mainly Xzan’s posts.
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Read what you write before you post it, and then scroll up.
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You are not apart of this community anymore, it seems.
We cannot be stopped by you.
Have a nice day.
Deva, they are your words. I’m not linking to you something that you wrote. Go back and read your own posts. I’m done arguing with you.
> We must not be forgotten!
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> If Elites come back, bring back Councilors and Zealots!! And ARBITER! 
That’s awesome. Was this a mod or was that actually in the game? That’s one thing I never saw before.
> > Sources please, and the opinions of the community are not sources.
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> It’s called logic. They’ve been here since Halo 2. They are playing a role in the future of the Halo story. The majority of the community wants them.
By the way, isn’t this Halo? The game whose developers were always faithful to their community? I’m not trying to be arrogant but that we are here now asking 343i for this makes it more likely that Elites will be in the game.
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> > > It is very hard to argue with someone that is so afraid to lose an argument that they will keep on restating the same things over and over with a new spin, I’ll admit. It is actually pretty tiring to debate with some one who insists on continuing after all of his valid points have been countered and is left with nothing but his bitterness and bias towards our community to throw at us. Look. you cannot beat us, so give up. I tire of your constant attacks founded in the shards of your shattered arguments, and so does everyone else here. does that mean I won’t debate with you until the sun comes up? No. We are here with a purpose, and we will not be stopped by you.
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> > 1. You aren’t my main focus
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> > 2. when did i say i was afraid if “losing”?
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> > 3. I keep restating the same thing because that is my stance which is “Them not being in one game doesn’t mean the are dropped”. Did you just say how “I can’t stop you” and how you have “purpose”? that generally means you are going to stick to the same thing.
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> > 4. I am not “Attacking” anyone, i have been stating the same thing. you don’t like what you are hearing so you label me as the aggressor and attack.
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> > 5. How can i be bias towards a community that i am apart of? Actually you are the bias one if you aren’t willing to accept they might not be in the game and religiously banter about how they “need” to be in.
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> > which brings us to the question. “what if i am right”? you say “you cannot be stopped” and that i am “Afraid”. So lets look at this.
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> > I like elites and wouldn’t mind them being in if the story and logic adds up. So if i am wrong (Which i wouldn’t mind and don’t recall it ever being stated that i was afraid of being so) Then we all win and the elites are in, again something i would reasonably want.
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> > But if i “the one how is afraid and flawed” is correct, doesn’t that mean i won and i “stopped” you? Maybe if you let go of the religious banter and reject the bias you might be able to see better.
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> > If i am wrong we win.
> > If i am right you lose.
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> > Think about that along with the word “Bias”.
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> 1. Yes I realize that you are focusing on Avu because he has beaten you in several other arguments in the past. Also, I do not speak just for myself, but for the community which I am apart of.
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> 2. I’m sorry if you’re brain works like a dictionary. I used afraid with a different connotation than webster. I was referencing your arrogance and how even though we have provided ample arguments that in my opinion would sway all but the most unreasonable opposers such as yourself.
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> 3. It would not bother me that you keep restating your argument if it had not already been countered in several other posts: See above, mainly Xzan’s posts.
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> 4. Read what you write before you post it, and then scroll up.
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> 5. You are not apart of this community anymore, it seems.
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> We cannot be stopped by you that is all.
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what the hell? What other arguments has he beaten me in? We generally laugh at him when he use to post in the universe forum. He can’t even read my post correctly. Not to mention this is the first time (I recall) even talking to him. So please link me to the arguments you are referring to. Because the only people on waypoint that contest me on a contest basis here are Toa Freak, and Notavaccum.
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so you seem to want everything to go your way and be easy. That seems far more arrogant.
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explain why i should or would change my stance and tell me how it is disproved? Because if it is “disproved” then you clearly don’t know my stance and should stop acting as if you do.
4.I could say the exact same for you.
- Um, because i have a mind and will not religiously follow something i am not part of the community? That is stupid. Last time i checked all you needed to be apart of this “community” was to like elites, please tell me when the requirements included childish religious dogma.
I want my Elites back, and i want the ability to put AI in forge, to support it go http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst63423_new-Forge--endless-possiblities.aspx?g=posts&t=63423&fb_source=message
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> Deva, they are your words. I’m not linking to you something that you wrote. Go back and read your own posts. I’m done arguing with you.
Classic cop out and fallacy. You keep making statements but cannot back them up, i know i can give you a direct quote for my statements but asked you to because you are twisting them up. Not to mention you will look limited if i honestly post the quotes you are referring to and they don’t say what you stated. So if you want to have some creditability to your words you might want to stop BSing and be able to back yourself up. Not back down once people ask you to prove your position.
No, because it’s absolutely absurd for me to go back and link you to something that you wrote hours ago. This thread is for Elites in Halo 4, if you don’t like it, then leave. Everybody will be happy. Simple as that.
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This, is so, off topic. If you aren’t here to support Elites in H4, then, why are you posting in this thread?
Don’t recall i ever said i didn’t support it. I just said it doesn’t add up if they are in which isn’t synonymous with me not wanting them to be in or supporting them being in.
All of your post, have been negative about elites.
Its really simple; If you don’t support elites in H4, then you made it clear,
and should really consider posting somewhere different. Unless you want elites in H4, I can see no reason why you are bothering to post here.
> Don’t recall i ever said i didn’t support it. I just said it doesn’t add up if they are in which isn’t synonymous with me not wanting them to be in or supporting them being in.
Just because you’re really on my nerves:
> look at how dull your elite looks compared to a flashy spartan
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> Not to mention it is going to get old always playing as an elite.
Go away Troll.
elites are awesome they should bring them back
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Several, scroll up. I don’t think there is a “we” in this case
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Is irrelevant to my counterpoint and does not need to be contested
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Maybe I would more clearly understand your stance if you stopped directing your points at your opponents rather than add more substance to your argument.
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You can’t, really.
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I am actually under the impression that you are telling half truths. From what I hear you used to support the Elite community, but I can ascertain nothing now that can bring me to the same conclusion. If you still supported elites you would be much more open to this topic rather than being dead set against it. It seems that this past interest of yours is now a convenient thing to say in place of a response that would ratify your statement.
This is what I propose, You will outline your opinion one more time in full, and then we will see what the community thinks about it. Once you have been heard, you will be free to leave knowing that you have spoken your piece and we have considered it. At this point you have really used up your debating privileges, as everyone is tired of you.
> elites are awesome they should bring them back
Indeed they are!
> I wish Traviss would release the next Post-War novel. I am interested to find out if the Human-Sangheili relationship prevails.
It will probably fail. Another war is pretty much inevitable, so in that sense there is a reason for the Sangheili to be in Matchmaking. Though I do not know why they have to bother with explanations for matchmaking. It was never canon; people never took it seriously before in that sense.
The Sangheili don’t need an excuse to use Human weapons. Tom said that he had seen some Sangheili avoid using Human weapons, not all.
> Okay, now I don’t know how you lot are gonna react to this, but I would rather Elites NOT be in multi-player if they’re just going to end up as 7’4" exact hunched-backed equals of MC just for the sole purpose of multi-player like in Halo 2 & 3.
I would rather not lose the ability to use Sangheili in matchmaking so that we can sustain a bunch of ultimately meaningless numbers like height or strength. Besides, it was made patently obvious in the fiction that the Spartan and the Sangheili were almost perfectly matched. I do not see what the problem is. Spartan-IVs have been said to be as strong as the Spartan-IIs themselves.
> > I didn’t catch the top half of Deva’s argument, but Sangheili armor does boost the speed and strength of the elite, as stated in the Encyclopedia.
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> I think that got taken out in the new edition.
No, it did not.
Truthfully though, I am not too bothered anymore. The Sangheili have pretty much been robbed of everything that made them appealing to me by crap writing. Halo Wars wiped out their intelligence; The Cole Protocol their pragmatism; Glasslands their emotional investment. I only play as one out of tradition, and because I think they look better. Well, I guess there is always Rtas left…
HALO WOULD NOT BE THE SAME WITHOUT THE SANGHEILI!**
> Truthfully though, I am not too bothered anymore. The Sangheili have pretty much been robbed of everything that made them appealing to me by crap writing. Halo Wars wiped out their intelligence; The Cole Protocol their pragmatism; Glasslands their emotional investment. I only play as one out of tradition, and because I think they look better. Well, I guess there is always Rtas left…
I never had a problem with Glasslands and Cole Protocol, but Halo Wars, oh my god, the scars will never be fully healed.