No one used the elephants, the laser ruined vehicular combat, the openness of the map made gameplay/objective slow, and the only fun thing to use was the chopper. No brutes in halo 4 pretty much leaves chopper + prowler out, what’s the point in remaking sand trap? And mammoths can’t replace elephants, mammoths can house like 5 warthogs, too big for any map.
Thank you for your opinion. Many, many players used the elephant for all sorts of shenanigans btw. I guess you just didn’t play in any fun sandtrap matches. 
Which you would have loved.
> No one used the elephants, the laser ruined vehicular combat, the openness of the map made gameplay/objective slow, and the only fun thing to use was the chopper. No brutes in halo 4 pretty much leaves chopper + prowler out, what’s the point in remaking sand trap? And mammoths can’t replace elephants, mammoths can house like 5 warthogs, too big for any map.
- That’s just your opinion
- Half of the Community will most likely disagree
- We really don’t know how big the mammoths are.
- It’s most likely sandtrap that’s being remade, just because of the Mammoths, the Mammoths would be a good hurrah to the Elephants departure and what better map to do it on other than Sandtrap?
Cool opinion bro.
I actually agree. I wasn’t a huge sandtrap fan. In terms of Halo 3, I enjoyed Rat’s Nest and Avalanche more.
Sandtrap was fun, but it wasn’t the greatest map.
2 flag CTF on Sandtrap was pretty much the greatest thing ever in Halo 3. Bonus points to the other team when they didn’t realize the Elephant WAS their flag and that they wouldn’t spawn on said Elephant and would drive it to you. Made stealing their base just that much easier.
I didn’t hate sandtrap but I wouldn’t say I exactly loved it either. I guess I wouldn’t mind seeing a remake of it but there are certainly others I would choose over it.
I remember when people used to veto this map…Good times. 
Well nobody said that Sandtrap was the map that was being remade, but I must say that I do love me some good old Sandtrap.
But hey, you’re entitled to your opinion just like anybody else.
Sandtrap was a great map. I would love to see it return in H4 any day.
sandtrap was fun on BTB
The chopper didn’t make Sandtrap. Bungie had no problem pacing Revenants on Hemorrhage even though there weren’t any on Coagulation or Blood Gulch.
> > No one used the elephants, the laser ruined vehicular combat, the openness of the map made gameplay/objective slow, and the only fun thing to use was the chopper. No brutes in halo 4 pretty much leaves chopper + prowler out, what’s the point in remaking sand trap? And mammoths can’t replace elephants, mammoths can house like 5 warthogs, too big for any map.
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> 1. That’s just your opinion
> 2. Half of the Community will most likely disagree
> 3. We really don’t know how big the mammoths are.
> 4. It’s most likely sandtrap that’s being remade, just because of the Mammoths, the Mammoths would be a good hurrah to the Elephants departure and what better map to do it on other than Sandtrap?
- Which parts and how?
- Opinion
- They’re a whole lot bigger than elephants
- Wishful opinion
I wasn’t a huge fan of rats nest map set up, but man I had a blast with friends on that map.
Blasphemy! 
Honestly my favorite memories from Sandtrap came from custom games where my friends and I made a gametype called “Survival Convoy”. Gauss Hogs and super speed hammer zombies for the win!
OT: I would kind of like to see it return, but I would choose Terminal, Turf, or Relic over this.
> No one used the elephants,
Your experiences are not the experiences of the, oh, MILLIONS of other people who played on Sandtrap. I recall countless games of Objective where the Elephants were key parts of the match. So right away, there goes your claim of “nobody” using the Elephants.
> the laser ruined vehicular combat,
Not all the time. It balanced the gameplay in my opinion. You really need something to take out those Choppers and the Laser does just that.
> the openness of the map made gameplay/objective slow, and the only fun thing to use was the chopper.
Objective games moved at a reasonable pace for a map it’s size.
> No brutes in halo 4 pretty much leaves chopper + prowler out,
Why? The Gravity Hammer is in campaign, is it unreasonable for the Storm Covenant to have a few Choppers they stole and re-purposed for their uses?
> what’s the point in remaking sand trap? And mammoths can’t replace elephants, mammoths can house like 5 warthogs, too big for any map.
Because a lot of people thought Sandtrap is fun? Also, don’t put in 5 Warthogs.
Anyone ever discover the Secret?
I never liked Sandtrap. I think it was poorly designed. You either had extremely close range fighting, long range fighting, or vehicle fighting. There was no in between. Everyone only wants it back for the Elephants, and I must say that those people are completely blinded by nostalgia. The Elephants weren’t even that great. They were slow, and only 2 turrets could rotate completely. I don’t think anyone would even drive those things anyway.