There would be riots in the streets if 343 priced this game (with everything included) for $100+
Saying otherwise is either wishful thinking or straight up ignorance.
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not from me, I got gamepass
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Iām pretty sure games were only $50 back then.
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Iām in the same boat, but itās not that I donāt enjoy customization. There are enough items in the free battle pass that Iām quite happy with, at least for now. And Iāve accepted that my Gungnir armor is likely going to be in the shop, so more than likely I will have to settle for something else.
Unless thereās something really nice AND prices drop substantially, 343 (and Microsoft) are not getting a penny more from me after I purchase the campaign.
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Agreed!
Just a fun comparison:
Halo Reach ($60 for campaign + MP/forge, co-op etc.):
21 helmets (now 26 in MCC)
18 Chests
18 shoulders
6 wrists
Infinite ($60 for campaign + $10 battlepass +>$1000 of store purchases):
18 helmets
16 chests
11 shoulders
5 wrists
To have a content complete Halo Infinite costs 17 times as much as Reach despite containingā¦ less content.
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Iām pretty sure the market asked for f2p. The market and history also showed that paid dlc ala map packs was overall bad for the matchmaking experience and community.
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Too right H5ās quick playlist was beyond pathetic.
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Nice summarization
I miss the R. v B.
They could have re-introduced H CE fall damage mechanic where if you crouch as you land you take 0 or next to 0 damage.
The banshee bomb should hit like a tank shell, not a rotten potato.
MCC has better customization, I still hold OG H3 as the pinnacle, because armor was linked to in game achievements.
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$100 for 10 seasons? I really would have to question the sanity of someone who decides to buy the premium pass for every single season. I mean, am I in the minority in that I donāt really change up the look of my spartan that much? Of the seasons released for MCC, I really only use a few of the new items 343 released. For Reach I use the new chest piece they released and sometimes Iāll change my GUNGNIR helmet for the GRD helmet. I mixed in some of the new Elite options for my Halo 3 Elite. I grabbed the SPI armor for my Halo 3 spartan. I use the Mark VII helmet for Halo 4. The rest? I mean, I have them unlocked simply to have the option but I donāt see myself ever throwing on 95% of them. Currently, I donāt see anything in the current Reach season for Infinite that catches my eye that isnāt free.
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Practically every aaa single player gane be it sony or microsoft and some nintendo is 60. Why is it just because multiplayer is free, its expected the si gle player game should be half price? Its an entirely different sku.
I cant select to pay 30 each year for the cod games or battlefield games for just the single player, i but. Agame its 60. I buy halo infinite, ita 60. Unless its on ps5 and i gotta pay 70. And even then i typically dont have an issue paying 70 for short songle player aaa games
This is what Halo was about, using your head. Not this mindless run like a bat out of hell just to get the kill. Thatās what Collision was also about, using your head, think before you just runā¦
Iām tired of seeing companies ruin games and before they release the game they make all the fluff TWABāS that are nothing but BS these days, just selling hype. Then when the game releases you see the truth. This is why I wait to buy anything from any company nowadays. Their actions speak a hell of a lot louder than their words.
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Why would anyone pay $60 for the campaign? GamePass is $15 a month if you have already used up the promotions. If not itās $1 or $2 for a month or two depending on the promotion. What is with the whining about $60? If you want the campaign for more than 1-3 months then $60 seems like a fair price for the hours of entertainment. If not then anyone with a brain isnāt paying $60 and it has been made very clear that you donāt need to pay that much.
$73 (adjusted for inflation) in 2011 with a less saturated market and BPās, etc were not an industry standard.
$60 in 2021 with more expensive networking/design requirements, more protections against crunch, and an industry where players made BPās the defacto standard.
Also if you want a game to be a service for 10 years or whatever the plan is, you need to have a constant money inflow. R6 Siege avoided a BP for nearly half a decade and Rust has market items, DLC, and Perma-store to support itās development from the indie side of things.
**there is a snowflakes chance in hell you would get a CFO to approve a full staff being dedicated to a game longer than year or two after launch if it were just a static unit sale without MTX or a subscription service **
itās not that simple
(Also going back to R6, the eSports investment paid off. So they had to dump money into it for a hot minute + MTX, and they made their money back big time, but key point here is āit took timeā. So a lot of the stuff weāre annoyed with now weāll probably be laughing at months down the road.)
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Iām all right with the game being free to play no one really asked for it to be free to play and I understand why they went with this itās to draw more people to it because they see it as free and nothingās going to steer them away from trying it out at least but my problem with the campaign still being $60 is youāre not getting anything for the multiplayer thereās said to be maybe a few items that are unlocked from the campaign but I personally think that you should be getting a lot from the campaign for the multiplayer as well because again the multiplayer is a big part of Halo itās just as important as the campaign and the progression system that we have now isnāt great I just wish that the monetization was done better I donāt have a problem with the free to play game my problem is with the way they the store all the items are overpriced they need to be 75 to 80% less than what they are before theyāre even worth purchasing like for instance is the Anubis helmet and the other items that came with it I donāt remember specifically what came with it because I didnāt really look at it that much I just looked at the helmet to see what it was and then left the store I havenāt bought anything out of the store and I never will until theyāre much lower prices but with the free to play their sole focus will be on the monetization so they can make their money Iām not upset by that itās just it shouldnāt be as anti-consumer as it is right now the prices need to be significantly lower
iirc the reason why they are doing this is because they are gonna be updating Infinite, both Campaign and MP over 10 years.
The money has to flow from somewhere.
But the catch here is that there is plenty of ways to take my money without first torturing me and abusing me with this progression system and near 0 customization.
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I am playing both on gamepass and donāt expect to spend anything on the multiplayer unless they radically overhaul the monetization and customization model, but Iād argue 343 hasnāt made a campaign worth $60 yet. I definitely would be waiting for a sale before picking up Infiniteās campaign if I didnāt have gamepass.
Halo 4ās campaign was worth maybe $30. Halo 5ās campaign was worth maybe $0.99.
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This right here is my favorite thing among all Halo games. And H3 ranking system.
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Because the campaign is a static story that doesnāt evolve over time and you canāt milk a story driven sp game like you can a mp game
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There really isnāt much to debate on that.
I will say, there are games out there that continue to milk the story and continue to be successful.
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