As you guys know yesterday was the day of the Season 12 finale of Red vs Blue. What did you guys think about the finale and the entire season overall? Discuss.
You know, this is going to sound strange, but that little reveal about Command really surprised me because I thought Command was going to be Carolina.
I know, weird, right? Well, here’s why I thought that. First off, there’s just the fact that having Carolina and Church playing both the Reds and Blues and Locus and Felix would have been a crazy twist.
Second, there’s that scene where Locus, Felix and Command are having a three-way communication earlier in the season. Right at the end, Command is passing out final instructions, then the scene seamlessly cuts to Carolina saying “I’ll be there before you know it”. That scene made it seem like Carolina’s line was just a continuation of Command’s line, and showed Carolina in what appeared to be a control room.
And then there’s that mercenary at the capitol who has the same armor and voice as Carolina. In Episode 17, to be precise, at around 4 minutes. I honestly thought Carolina was somehow jumping around and fooling both sides, or- way less likely- had an evil twin. That would have been classic RvB storytelling style.
Good season overall, could’ve been better.
I laughed hard two or three times. The second to last episode was great.
6/10 compared to other seasons.
> I know, weird, right?
It’s not like that would be completely against her character or anything…
OT: Episode 18 was awesome.
Like just straight up awesome.
Have no idea what the end credits scene meant though.
Is the Meta back? It did only mention his helmet after all. How relevant is it to the plot? Will Locus just where it to make Washington’s pants brown?
> Will Locus just where it to make Washington’s pants brown?
No, all he needs to do that is drive a car at Washington.
It was good to me to see the skill-sets of Felix and Locus, Tucker developing some leadership ability, and of course, that end scene after the credits.
Also
X-Ray and Vav are coming
Here’s the discussion I had with Halo Junky about the finale on the OT7. Last post’s credit is given to Noble138.
Don’t know why I was expecting more since last episode was the big final pretty much. Only thing worthwhile was
We know who ‘Control’ is, Sarge outranks Grif again, and the Meta… might just be alive. And if it is… that means real Church is still alive too right?
P.S. Episo-Church, your speech letter was rather anti-climatic. Caboose’s speech earlier in the season is better than yours, Mr. Swear-Every-Chance-I-Get.
Well the real Church would still be dead because of the EMP (I mean the emp). And it’s nice to see that Sarge never misses and opportunity to demean Grif.
But every AI was killed in the Emp. Why would the Meta’s helmet hold such significance is all it is is a fishbowl with a HUD? That’s what makes me wonder…
Good point. The Chairman indeed put emphasis on the helmet specifically. Perhaps there is more going on…unless he just wants the Meta’s head as a trophy.
Ah, yes… he did state something about a trophy from Locus, didn’t he? Which then begs the question… Locus’ trophy?! Did the Meta survive his fall and battle Locus? Or did our order-obsessed friend find the body and claim the prize?
It might explain how Locus was able to procure his cloaking device, and perhaps some modifications were made to the bubble shield to make it personal for Felix.
Also, Maine’s suit has a conglomerate of modifications in it. It’s possible the Chairman wants to re-assemble the suit for mass production, instead of implanting modifications into pre-existing suits.
So there’s that. I honestly wasn’t a big fan of this season. Sure, Tucker’s character developed, but not really in the end. He matured just a bit away from his constant-making-annoying--Yoink!--jokes. Overall, it wasn’t the development I was hoping for. (Not to say I liked those bow-chicka-wow jokes, I was hoping for more development.)
The season just seemed like one of those serial dramas you watch on television. Drawn out and anticlimactic. The second-to-last episode was great, though. But that’s really all I can say.
Well, the season was rather amazing if you ask me.
The thing with Malcolm Hargrove didn’t surprise me that much because:
A mercenary said that whoever it was that was funding them had invested a lot of time and money, something that you’d expect from someone with chairman status to have.
We knew command had ties to the UNSC, due to him asking about the crate
Hargrove talked about getting back “my property” to Locus and Felix, and we all know how the chairman got mad at Wash for the destruction of military property on loan to Project Freelancer
After all they’ve been through, would Carolina really betray the reds and blues? I think not, hence why I had suspected that Carolina was just trying to fool the mercenaries.
The things that did surprise me were:
F.I.L.S.S making a return, as the Director had ordered her to delete herself at the end of season 10.
Maine’s return [well… his armor returned]
The Staff of Charon’s return [you see it briefly in season 10]
I am curious of one thing, however.
During season 8, Maine had added Epsilon- Tex to his armor, thus allowing him to use his armor enhancements. So, if they recovered Maine’s armor, then could it be that Tex was also recovered along with the suit? Only time will tell.
On a side note, I don’t condone this either, in Halo some Spartans that failed the augmentation process were frozen in hopes that they could be brought back at a later date, some were.
So, if Maine’s body was recovered, if he has enough intact organs and stuff could he be recovered? No, I am not one of those people who was saying that some old dead character would/should return in a few episodes, but now that possibility is at least somewhat there.
> Well, the season was rather amazing if you ask me.
> The thing with Malcolm Hargrove didn’t surprise me that much because:
> A mercenary said that whoever it was that was funding them had invested a lot of time and money, something that you’d expect from someone with chairman status to have.
> We knew command had ties to the UNSC, due to him asking about the crate
> Hargrove talked about getting back “my property” to Locus and Felix, and we all know how the chairman got mad at Wash for the destruction of military property on loan to Project Freelancer
> After all they’ve been through, would Carolina really betray the reds and blues? I think not, hence why I had suspected that Carolina was just trying to fool the mercenaries.
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> The things that did surprise me were:
> F.I.L.S.S making a return, as the Director had ordered her to delete herself at the end of season 10.
> Maine’s return [well… his armor returned]
> The Staff of Charon’s return [you see it briefly in season 10]
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> I am curious of one thing, however.
> During season 8, <mark>Maine had added Epsilon- Tex to his armor, thus allowing him to use his armor enhancements. So, if they recovered Maine’s armor, then could it be that Tex was also recovered along with the suit?</mark> Only time will tell.
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> On a side note, I don’t condone this either, in Halo some Spartans that failed the augmentation process were frozen in hopes that they could be brought back at a later date, some were.
> So, if Maine’s body was recovered, if he has enough intact organs and stuff could he be recovered? No, I am not one of those people who was saying that some old dead character would/should return in a few episodes, but now that possibility is at least somewhat there.
The memory unit containing both Church and Tex was recovered. It’s possible that an imprint could be left in the helmet, but I feel Tex should continue to rest.
I thought the finale was pretty lackluster. Like, the “reveal” wasn’t too much of a surprise because I don’t even remember anything about the Chairman from earlier seasons. All I remember is that the Director was having some conversation with some person that didn’t really seem to be relevant to what was happening in the episode. The finale might as well have been 12 minutes of nothing but text that said “BE SURE TO WATCH RVB SEASON 13!!”
To be honest, between this, RWBY Volume 1, and the last season, I can’t say I’m a fan of Miles as a writer. Whether he’s writing jokes or stories, his work just feels mediocre.
> I thought the finale was pretty lackluster. Like, the “reveal” wasn’t too much of a surprise because I don’t even remember anything about the Chairman from earlier seasons. <mark>All I remember is that the Director was having some conversation with some person that didn’t really seem to be relevant to what was happening in the episode.</mark> The finale might as well have been 12 minutes of nothing but text that said “BE SURE TO WATCH RVB SEASON 13!!”
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> To be honest, between this, RWBY Volume 1, and the last season, I can’t say I’m a fan of Miles as a writer. Whether he’s writing jokes or stories, his work just feels mediocre.
As far as how relevant the Chairman was, the letters back and forth between him and the Director seemed to indicate, to me at least, that there was some sort of rivalry between them. Or at least a kind of bitterness that felt like it mirrored that of Col. Ackerson and Dr Halsey. The big reveal for me was a big surprise, because it was kind of like a blast from the past from a character that you thought wasn’t really relevant, only to find out that he’s more than meets the eye, as with every character in this series.
And i must say, there’s no denying that there were other pretty mind blowing twists as well, particularly from episodes 10 and 11. I will admit that i do prefer Burnie’s writing though, and just overall direction. The jokes in this season did feel incredibly forced, and the fighting felt like it lacked severe impact, but i won’t say that this season was crap, because it wasn’t. It was better than season 11, thats for sure.
Though as Junky pointed out in the Off-topic thread, i do question where the -Yoink- the Counsellor went…and Doc. They need to provide closure on that.
Meh… all I know is that Colonel Sarge(if that even makes sense) can know command part of an army now…
Also, I kinda saw the Charon Industries part as they were referenced quite a few times. When I looked at what happened recently and saw who funded the Innies, I pieced that it would probably be the owner of the staff of Charon ship.
I gotta say I absolutely loved it when Sarge became Colonel, he’d do anything to outrank Grif. That part cracked me up.
You know, it interests me how very specifically it is mentioned that Charon Industries worked with cryogenics for some time. Why cryogenics? There must be a reason.
Who could be brought back with that kind of plot element?
> You know, it interests me how very specifically it is mentioned that Charon Industries worked with cryogenics for some time. Why cryogenics? There must be a reason.
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> Who could be brought back with that kind of plot element?
I was thinking the exact same thing. RvB has a habit of turning seemingly minor elements major.
> > You know, it interests me how very specifically it is mentioned that Charon Industries worked with cryogenics for some time. Why cryogenics? There must be a reason.
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> I was thinking the exact same thing. RvB has a habit of turning seemingly minor elements major.
… Oh sharks.
This is a stretch but…
Meta. Fell into icy sea.
ICY SEA.
Let’s remember the movie Captain America, shall we? Yes, let’s.
> > > You know, it interests me how very specifically it is mentioned that Charon Industries worked with cryogenics for some time. Why cryogenics? There must be a reason.
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> > I was thinking the exact same thing. RvB has a habit of turning seemingly minor elements major.
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> This is a stretch but…
> Meta. Fell into icy sea.
> ICY SEA.
> Let’s remember the movie Captain America, shall we? Yes, let’s.
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It’s official. We have a theory ladies and gentlemen.
So I’m guessing the Chairman recovered Meta’s body and armor, and wants to use him against the “colorful space marines” somehow.
I didn’t read the whole thread yet (laziness level over 9000) but are we not going to talk about the return of AnderSmith?
Jokes aside, did nobody else assume Locus was Maine the moment he mentioned “how great a soldier” Wash used to be? I mean, between that, the apparent voice modulator (which Maine would need given his shredded vocal chords) and being sent Meta’s helmet it seems a little obvious.
Which I can then assume means he’s not maine, because usually they’re not that blatant about it but… eh, who knows. Plus the Code Name (Locus clearly not being his real name, similar to Meta .) would point in the Maine direction. As well as the Chairman still being alive.
Still, I could be wrong.
Overall I felt the season was alright. Some good jokes, a couple good episodes, but a lot of it felt reaaaallllly forced. Some good moments, and some really really bad moments. Not as bad as RWBY Season 2 has been though.
> To be honest, between this, RWBY Volume 1, and the last season, I can’t say I’m a fan of Miles as a writer. Whether he’s writing jokes or stories, his work just feels mediocre.
I thought Volume one of RWBY was fine, pretty good even. The season that’s on right now on the other hand feels like a badly written high school drama. Voiced by high school students with no prior acting experience. And the dialogue was written using a book of “most overused character development clichés.”
Interesting theory Silent. Crazier things have happened.
And I agree about RWBY. Season 2 isn’t really doin’ it for me.