Road to Infinite

Im am very surprised, but not too surprised, that there has not been the hinting or set up in extended universe materials for the next halos story. Like how disney has the Road to… series of comics, books and so on, for its star wars movies to set up or set the scene for the film. Or just in general how they long term plan and hint to projects like Project Luminous set in the High Republic. I have found it just odd that there has not really been this kind of thing for infinite with the only thing known is that Infinity is on the run and Cortana controls the galaxy. This is exciting in the way that we have no idea what is going on and what the story is going to be or what is being added to the lore or off screen events, but is also a source of anxiety as the unknown is just that: unknown.

I know I and probably many others would enjoy a road to-esq series as a prologue to the game.

It’s most likely because the game is a Live Service and with the backlash against Live Service games right now they don’t want to risk revealing anything that might hurt the new Xbox’s launch, since it’s clear Infinite is going to be a launch title to help move consoles.

Check out halo new blood. It focuses on buck and takes place directly after halo 5. Theres some set up for infinite in there. For example, the grunts have sided with Cortana so we can probably expect grunts in her ranks. Also check out legacy of onyx, idk if that one will have a direct impact on infinite but something significant happened in regards to a guardian that could be applied to other guardians.

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> Im am very surprised, but not too surprised, that there has not been the hinting or set up in extended universe materials for the next halos story. Like how disney has the Road to… series of comics, books and so on, for its star wars movies to set up or set the scene for the film. Or just in general how they long term plan and hint to projects like Project Luminous set in the High Republic. I have found it just odd that there has not really been this kind of thing for infinite with the only thing known is that Infinity is on the run and Cortana controls the galaxy. This is exciting in the way that we have no idea what is going on and what the story is going to be or what is being added to the lore or off screen events, but is also a source of anxiety as the unknown is just that: unknown.
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> I know I and probably many others would enjoy a road to-esq series as a prologue to the game.

Halo Wars 2 is a game tell the Road to Infinite :slight_smile:

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> It’s most likely because the game is a Live Service and with the backlash against Live Service games right now they don’t want to risk revealing anything that might hurt the new Xbox’s launch, since it’s clear Infinite is going to be a launch title to help move consoles.

When you mean live services, what do you mean? Does that mean the game itself will keep changing all the time and you can only play it online? I’m not up to date with all the new lingo out there. My sons aren’t sure either.

Yes, Live Service games are games that are built as a service, which means they’re always online, multiplayer focused with the intent on making money through trying to force the player to spend real money on in-game stores and other micro/macrotransactions in order to have any real progression. I generally refer to these games a MMO-Lites, meaning you have to interact with other players in an online space.

Destiny is a Live Service game.
Anthem is a Live Service game.
The Division is a Live Service game.
Fallout 76 is a Live Service game.

Any sports game is a Live Service game.

Given that Microsoft doesn’t have it’s own big Live Service game, the fact that it really needs to sell consoles early and consistently, and that Halo is their big brand name, it makes sense that Halo Infinite will be some form of Live Service if not Live Service entirely. 343i has been hiring for online services, they tout that the world is huge and something that will continuously evolve as an open world with RPG aspects. Which means it will probably be focused on looting new weapons and armor like Destiny.

Since Live Service games imploded on their publishers in the last two years starting with Battlefront II’s greedy Pay To Win mechanics focusing on Lootboxes and continuing through Destiny 2’s hidden XP nerf to make the grinds longer, to Fallout 76 and Anthem being enormous trainwrecks, we did not get any new information at E3 and only got a pathetic trailer concerning Infinite. They didn’t want early negative word of mouth tainting the project, and it will be very interesting if we finally get some actual information on what Infinite is and is not at this year’s E3.

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> Yes, Live Service games are games that are built as a service, which means they’re always online, multiplayer focused with the intent on making money through trying to force the player to spend real money on in-game stores and other micro/macrotransactions in order to have any real progression. I generally refer to these games a MMO-Lites, meaning you have to interact with other players in an online space.
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> Destiny is a Live Service game.
> Anthem is a Live Service game.
> The Division is a Live Service game.
> Fallout 76 is a Live Service game.
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> Any sports game is a Live Service game.
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> Given that Microsoft doesn’t have it’s own big Live Service game, the fact that it really needs to sell consoles early and consistently, and that Halo is their big brand name, it makes sense that Halo Infinite will be some form of Live Service if not Live Service entirely. 343i has been hiring for online services, they tout that the world is huge and something that will continuously evolve as an open world with RPG aspects. Which means it will probably be focused on looting new weapons and armor like Destiny.
>
> Since Live Service games imploded on their publishers in the last two years starting with Battlefront II’s greedy Pay To Win mechanics focusing on Lootboxes and continuing through Destiny 2’s hidden XP nerf to make the grinds longer, to Fallout 76 and Anthem being enormous trainwrecks, we did not get any new information at E3 and only got a pathetic trailer concerning Infinite. They didn’t want early negative word of mouth tainting the project, and it will be very interesting if we finally get some actual information on what Infinite is and is not at this year’s E3.

Interesting but will we be able to play offline as well such as campaign or is that still unknown ? Scares me in a way that games are strictly going to online only. Offline days are going the way of the DoDo.

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> > Yes, Live Service games are games that are built as a service, which means they’re always online, multiplayer focused with the intent on making money through trying to force the player to spend real money on in-game stores and other micro/macrotransactions in order to have any real progression. I generally refer to these games a MMO-Lites, meaning you have to interact with other players in an online space.
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> > Destiny is a Live Service game.
> > Anthem is a Live Service game.
> > The Division is a Live Service game.
> > Fallout 76 is a Live Service game.
> >
> > Any sports game is a Live Service game.
> >
> > Given that Microsoft doesn’t have it’s own big Live Service game, the fact that it really needs to sell consoles early and consistently, and that Halo is their big brand name, it makes sense that Halo Infinite will be some form of Live Service if not Live Service entirely. 343i has been hiring for online services, they tout that the world is huge and something that will continuously evolve as an open world with RPG aspects. Which means it will probably be focused on looting new weapons and armor like Destiny.
> >
> > Since Live Service games imploded on their publishers in the last two years starting with Battlefront II’s greedy Pay To Win mechanics focusing on Lootboxes and continuing through Destiny 2’s hidden XP nerf to make the grinds longer, to Fallout 76 and Anthem being enormous trainwrecks, we did not get any new information at E3 and only got a pathetic trailer concerning Infinite. They didn’t want early negative word of mouth tainting the project, and it will be very interesting if we finally get some actual information on what Infinite is and is not at this year’s E3.
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> Interesting but will we be able to play offline as well such as campaign or is that still unknown ? Scares me in a way that games are strictly going to online only. Offline days are going the way of the DoDo.

At this point we don’t know, they simply haven’t released enough information about it. I say what I say because I’ve been playing video games and paying attention to the industry since 1989 so I’m just basing the information that I do know (open world and RPG elements, hiring staff with experience in Live Service games) against my own experience. I believe that, had there not been such a massive backlash against Live Service games, we would have known more by now and that they’re keeping it secret because they simply don’t want to turn the fanbase against them (because this is a new Xbox launch title and they need the flagship franchise to be healthy and positive to help move consoles).

The only other reason I could think of such a lack of information would simply be because the saw the backlash happen and did a massive overhaul to the game itself.

But if it goes the route of all the other games I listed, then you won’t be able to play offline. You’ll have to be connected to a server in order to play the game. At best I see us getting a campaign where you play as the Chief and the story ends in a way where he and Cortana are dead or disposed of in such a way that they don’t come back. They’ve been wanting to move away from the Chief for a while now, so ending the Reclaimer trilogy with both him and Cortana biting it and then leaving it to our own Spartan characters to pick up the Mantle…It’s a definite possibility. That way they can introduce the player to the concepts with a campaign and then toss you into the open world where the story continues and you are given incentive to play.

So we’ll see.

A believe me, I know your fear. I live in a rural part of the American Midwest and my Internet is barely faster than dial-up. I simply can’t play online or when I’m forced to go online with my Xbox One, it means any game I want to play means I need to put those plans on hold for a week, if not longer in order to download huge patches. It absolutely sucks and I utterly despise how everything has gone online. I don’t want to play with other players, other players either drag you down or just get in the way. I don’t play games for a social experience, I play them for the singleplayer thrills and immersion in a good story.

Online requirements are a pox upon gaming, just as much as Live Services are, Lootboxes, DLC and all the other anti-consumer stuff that is plaguing the industry right now.

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> > > Yes, Live Service games are games that are built as a service, which means they’re always online, multiplayer focused with the intent on making money through trying to force the player to spend real money on in-game stores and other micro/macrotransactions in order to have any real progression. I generally refer to these games a MMO-Lites, meaning you have to interact with other players in an online space.
> > >
> > > Destiny is a Live Service game.
> > > Anthem is a Live Service game.
> > > The Division is a Live Service game.
> > > Fallout 76 is a Live Service game.
> > >
> > > Any sports game is a Live Service game.
> > >
> > > Given that Microsoft doesn’t have it’s own big Live Service game, the fact that it really needs to sell consoles early and consistently, and that Halo is their big brand name, it makes sense that Halo Infinite will be some form of Live Service if not Live Service entirely. 343i has been hiring for online services, they tout that the world is huge and something that will continuously evolve as an open world with RPG aspects. Which means it will probably be focused on looting new weapons and armor like Destiny.
> > >
> > > Since Live Service games imploded on their publishers in the last two years starting with Battlefront II’s greedy Pay To Win mechanics focusing on Lootboxes and continuing through Destiny 2’s hidden XP nerf to make the grinds longer, to Fallout 76 and Anthem being enormous trainwrecks, we did not get any new information at E3 and only got a pathetic trailer concerning Infinite. They didn’t want early negative word of mouth tainting the project, and it will be very interesting if we finally get some actual information on what Infinite is and is not at this year’s E3.
> >
> > Interesting but will we be able to play offline as well such as campaign or is that still unknown ? Scares me in a way that games are strictly going to online only. Offline days are going the way of the DoDo.
>
> At this point we don’t know, they simply haven’t released enough information about it. I say what I say because I’ve been playing video games and paying attention to the industry since 1989 so I’m just basing the information that I do know (open world and RPG elements, hiring staff with experience in Live Service games) against my own experience. I believe that, had there not been such a massive backlash against Live Service games, we would have known more by now and that they’re keeping it secret because they simply don’t want to turn the fanbase against them (because this is a new Xbox launch title and they need the flagship franchise to be healthy and positive to help move consoles).
>
> The only other reason I could think of such a lack of information would simply be because the saw the backlash happen and did a massive overhaul to the game itself.
>
> But if it goes the route of all the other games I listed, then you won’t be able to play offline. You’ll have to be connected to a server in order to play the game. At best I see us getting a campaign where you play as the Chief and the story ends in a way where he and Cortana are dead or disposed of in such a way that they don’t come back. They’ve been wanting to move away from the Chief for a while now, so ending the Reclaimer trilogy with both him and Cortana biting it and then leaving it to our own Spartan characters to pick up the Mantle…It’s a definite possibility. That way they can introduce the player to the concepts with a campaign and then toss you into the open world where the story continues and you are given incentive to play.
>
> So we’ll see.
>
> A believe me, I know your fear. I live in a rural part of the American Midwest and my Internet is barely faster than dial-up. I simply can’t play online or when I’m forced to go online with my Xbox One, it means any game I want to play means I need to put those plans on hold for a week, if not longer in order to download huge patches. It absolutely sucks and I utterly despise how everything has gone online. I don’t want to play with other players, other players either drag you down or just get in the way. I don’t play games for a social experience, I play them for the singleplayer thrills and immersion in a good story.
>
> Online requirements are a pox upon gaming, just as much as Live Services are, Lootboxes, DLC and all the other anti-consumer stuff that is plaguing the industry right now.

I feel your pain. My internet is only 3mb because Verizon can’t run fiberoptics needed forfaster speeds in our area. That 20 Gb download for day one took me 25 hours to complete . I hope 343 has it’s game together and complete for day one play. The only day one download I want to see is something extra you get for preordering like the good old days where came complete and certain game companies valued the customers. Might be a pipedream but who knows , maybe 343 does read the forums and see how most of us older gamers that have been around since Halo CE are considering Halo Infinite to be a last chance at redemption title. We shall see.

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> Check out halo new blood. It focuses on buck and takes place directly after halo 5. Theres some set up for infinite in there. For example, the grunts have sided with Cortana so we can probably expect grunts in her ranks. Also check out legacy of onyx, idk if that one will have a direct impact on infinite but something significant happened in regards to a guardian that could be applied to other guardians.

I’ve read new blood but not the other one yet.