I want to like Riptide, I really do. It looks good and seems pretty cool but it’s literally just everyone camping. There’s no real balance to this map and it’s barely fun to play (in my opinion) Does 343 even try these maps before they make them part of the game?
I don’t like riptide at all mainly because of the “camping” and the map it’s self just confuses me. I get lost easily especially in swat
The map has no good lines of sight; basically everyone just runs straight into the room with the gravity lift only to be shot from one of the 6 entrances. I don’t know if there are 6, but it sure seems like it. It’s nearly impossible to cover all your angles. I find myself just running around eventually running into someone else who is also lost or surprised.
It is a campground for sure. I hate campers but dont think most people have much choice on this one. Especially with those ledges above the fuel rod. Although empire and overgrowth are probably the worst for campers.
ya i wonder if 343 tries out these maps at all. the gltiches in antifreeze and overgrowth make me think they are not going through proper testing before being used. that being said id rather have more buggymaps than only a few maps. many people complain about these new maps and say remove them! i say this game cant handle less maps and less variety, its the last thing it needs. ill put up with maps i dont find perfect just to have something new.
i hated the rig (for instance) at first and later it became my favorite map. just because you hate the map now doesnt mean its terrible, it might grow on you. fathom and empire were also ones i didnt like at first…
I think there should be an element of common sense that 343 uses for testing maps. Some are good for teams but diabolical for ffa : overgrowth for sure and possibly empire. Although rebalancing the weapons would really help. Some are great for ffa like pegasus but awful for team slayer. And fathom is kinda odd for all gametyes apart from ctf where it really excels. The maps are all good for at least one gametype but expecting them to be good for all of them is a stretch. This is why 343 should listen to the community about which maps to use for which playlist. As for riptide it seems good for strongholds and team slayer, less good for ffa and im sure would be dreadful for ctf.
Riptide is the worst map for campers, it’s just tight corners and thin hallways!
All I see are a bunch of complaints as to why you got killed by someone using map control. Everyone complains about “camping” when really camping is only a coined phrase someone came up with because they were mad someone kept killing them from the same location. (It wasn’t their fault for going to said location over and over) holding an area on the map is not camping. No matter how much people complain about it. Its called map control when you’re doing it with a team. Its call patrolling when doing it by yourself. Very few people actually “camp” sitting crouched in one spot every time. Know why? Because you’ll be found out very easily! Anyone with a brain can say to themselves " hey that guy killed my last time from a corner with a rocket launcher. I had better find an alternative route to engage him or I will most certainly die again!" No you guys don’t do that! You get killed, probably lose the match, then come on here to rant about how you lost because of “campers” and “too many power weapons” honestly, what did you expect? I’m just supposed to run around like a fool with no strategy? I’m just supposed to ignore weapon pickups or just let you get them?! NO! As far as I’m concerned, every time I hear someone dish out the phrase “camper” I immediately think “yeah they just got whupped and now the noobs are crying again…”
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> All I see are a bunch of complaints as to why you got killed by someone using map control. Everyone complains about “camping” when really camping is only a coined phrase someone came up with because they were mad someone kept killing them from the same location. (It wasn’t their fault for going to said location over and over) holding an area on the map is not camping. No matter how much people complain about it. Its called map control when you’re doing it with a team. Its call patrolling when doing it by yourself. Very few people actually “camp” sitting crouched in one spot every time. Know why? Because you’ll be found out very easily! Anyone with a brain can say to themselves " hey that guy killed my last time from a corner with a rocket launcher. I had better find an alternative route to engage him or I will most certainly die again!" No you guys don’t do that! You get killed, probably lose the match, then come on here to rant about how you lost because of “campers” and “too many power weapons” honestly, what did you expect? I’m just supposed to run around like a fool with no strategy? I’m just supposed to ignore weapon pickups or just let you get them?! NO! As far as I’m concerned, every time I hear someone dish out the phrase “camper” I immediately think “yeah they just got whupped and now the noobs are crying again…”
And what about for ffa where there is no skill with where u spawn and can then camp with a weapon? You incorrectly assume that people only talk ts when they make comments. Game dynamics between different modes are very different. On ffa you dont deliberately team kill one person for instance so the advantages and problems present themselves more in ffa. And camping is so much more of a problem in ffa, especially with power weapons that arent earned. If they were earned i think there is less of a problem. Inherited power weapons and map control you say at the start isnt really fair or a true test of skill. Altering spawns could help so that noone feels they need to spawn somewhere or they will be a few kills down before the game has started. I think just asking 343 to look into a problem is no biggie.