Return to the Roots

It’s a good thing people are asking for a new game in the classic style, then, and not a Halo 3 expansion.

We are all aware that the MCC is there with it’s anemic population, thanks to having one of the top 3 worst launches in gaming history. Preferring a certain style of gameplay is not “nostalgia”. Team Fortress 2 is not pulling in higher Steam numbers than Infinite despite coming out A MONTH AFTER HALO 3, because of nostalgia. There is no reason a Halo game can’t revisit the purposely stripped back player mechanics of the OT, and innovate/speed up the game in other ways, save for a lack of imagination on the part of the developer.

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Yeah. I know it was the FOV. But it still felt like treacle.

Plus the whole static map control emphasis was just meh.

I like how the latter Halo’s encouraged movement around the map. Swarm as a team.

Me and my friend are having a blast on the aqurias map. We 1v1 and we both pick up a thruster pack and it almost feels like Halo 5. Its so much fun. Removing the ablities was a mistake

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why do people hate sprint so much

i really dont miss the equipment, it was so damn annoying in 3

pretty sure people dont like 4, 5 and infinite cause theyre bad

kinda doubt removin more features would fix that

They hate it cause they can be outplayed and out gunned.

But then again, even without sprint, they will complain, blaming lag, De-syncing, cheaters and geo filtering when being outplayed or out gunned.

Haters are going to hate.

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pretty sure those are legit issues infinite has though?

The thrusters in Infinite are so much better than Halo 5 IMO, aside from the general wonkiness the game as a whole has. Mainly I love that you can shoot while using them.

The more modular nature of the older titles would really let us have our cake and eat it too when it comes to most of this stuff. It’s not necessarily a hill I’d die on, but there’s no reason we can’t have a casual playlist where you can select equipment off spawn, or even have curated loadouts à la Reach (I mostly argue this because I love Invasion, but it would give a huge boost in customs variety, as well).

Did I say they were not issues???

NO, I said

AGAIN… “ HATERS ARE GOING TO HATE “

They will find a reason to blame the game or a excuse to put the blame on a game mechanic IF THEY ARE OUT PLAYED OR OUT GUNNED, with or without SPRINT.


  • Doesnt matter IF Halo Infinite or any game has any “ Game breaking “ Issues, the chances of running into those issues are pretty low, Not low enough to where you won’t run into them ; BUT low enough where you’re not running into them 24/7, 10 / 10 matches.
    If that was the case, 343 Industries would roll out a game “ maintenance “ update. ( MASSIVE Update ) that fixes or hard resets the entire game ; The servers would be down for a time frame where NO ONE can play the game… Halo 5 had 1 Maintenance update over its lifespan and Halo MCC has had 3 of these Maintenance updates.

MAJORITY of times ; Games will have these updates when a “ NEW SEASON “ / DLC comes to the game ; But if the game is buggy and unplayable, they will roll this kind of update out.


If Halo “ Infinite were to return to its “ ROOTS “ ( WILL NEVER HAPEN - Halo CE - 3 were slow paced games ) - Then, this is the kind of update that would hit the game. The Hard Reset, “ IF “ that actually were to happen, I AM ABSOLUTELY 117% positive, Halo would die as a franchise and gaming title ; 343 would be ruined as a company.

Yes fans would rejoice, but that percentage of fans rejoicing is small compared to the fans that actually want a fast paced skilled kind of game.

The “ Golden “ Halo Trilogy is dead and outdated.

The MCC is proof of this, with having to consistently add new content through the “ Insider program “ ; Yeah, That speaks volumes on “ Return to the roots “


*343 Industries and Microsoft know this, again it’s why the MCC even exist. If that Golden trilogy and formula was as good as “ everyone “Claimed it to be… The Halo 4, Halo 5 and Infinite would of remained the same as Halo CE, Halo 2 or Halo 3… Obviously it was never good, it was just Nostalgic ; Halo is a game title that NEEDS TO COMBAT EVOLVE, If not it will become irrelevant. *

jesus christ

pretty sure op never said anything about bein outplayed. he just didnt like it

so minor the whole forums complains about it?

this is 343 dude, took em forever just to fix btb

yknow its pretty bad when im the dude sayin you got a weird way of typin
also no even though i like sprint i doubt gettin rid of it would kill a company lmao

pretty sure most people dont like 4 and 5 though?
i dunno what the hell youre tryna say

Nooooooo wayyyy.

The momentum is gone. You can no longer jump thrust and continue jumping without loosing momentum.

All the tricks are gone too. No knee caps.

It’s very glitchy and too sudden as well.

It also like hitting a brick wall after the thrust is done. Just everything about it is stiff and not as fluid as Halo 5

However should you shoot while thrusting. Yes. That’s the only thing I agree on

Sprint and Abilities aren’t the problem.

lack of combat depth, good maps and decent power weapons is.

Well that’s precisely the wonky-ness I was referring to, the moment after you press the thrust button, until the moment you touch the ground, feel a lot more impactful than I recall Halo 5 feeling, like the acceleration has more oomph, but that could just be the result of camera effects. I genuinely hope the sudden stops aren’t a deliberate design choice, but who knows when it comes to 343, even clamber in this game feels glitchy at times.

I am not saying or EVEN said getting rid of sprint would kill the entire company… Did I say that??? No child, I said If 343 Industries were to “ return to the roots “ and explained why… Did you not read? Obviously not, You just nit picked what I said.

No, I said it. I NEVER SAID HE SAID IT ; So don’t word things like he did or like I was saying he did. Again, You nit pick and assumed.

DID YOU NOT READ??? Again, Obviously not, you just nit picked… Am what Im saying to big brain for your little mind to comprehend?

343 Industries or not, they rolled out an " Hot fix “ update, the first time they did it, the “ Hot fix “ didn’t work, they didn’t pin point the issue ; You know how updating a game works right?

( Since you’re one to nit pick everything, Imma use “ Forge “ as an EXAMPLE so your little mind can comprehend it… The word “ Comprehend “ means “ Understanding “- Got it??? )

It’s not like Forge, where If a map as an issue, it’s easy to fix through “ Forge “ or there map design process.

The issue that plagued BTB was an “ coding “ issue; NOT NETWORKING players together, as a whole, the game mode was bugged. Playable for some, but not for all.

An error in coding takes a ton of time to fix.

While fixing “ 1 “ Variable, another variable changes ; That change subsequently can alter the first and last thing you just “ Fixed “ - So to pin point the error, you need to take your time, go through everything and see whats connecting and not connecting.

Where it seems like BTB was an easy fix ; It was not.

People want 343 Industries to address, Cheating, Lag issues, De-Sync issues… Yeah ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME.

  • IF Halo 4 for Xbox 360 was BAD as “ Everyone “ Claims to be, Then please… PLEASE Explain why Halo 4 has an Review Rating of 4.3 on the Xbox Store…

Halo : The Master Chief Collection has an Review Rating of 4.3… THE SAME Rating as Halo 4 for Xbox 360…

Halo 3 Xbox 360 has a review rating of 4.9

Halo CE Anniversary Xbox 360 has a review rating of 4.3

  • Halo 5 has an Review rating of 4.1 On the Xbox Store

  • Halo Infinite has a review rating of 3.2, THIS rating was at 3.3 a week ago when I last checked and has dropped in that time frame.

If Halo 4 and Halo 5 games are disliked and the worse Halo games of the titles… Then why do they have a higher rating than Halo Infinite or Ratings equal to Halo : MCC or near Halo 3???

You can’t tell me that Infinite is new and of course those rating are low and don’t matter ; Cause at times consumers, investors / buyers base there purchase on a game review and the “ Rating Number “ - Especially more than ever with how the gaming to entertainment industry is.


Of course you wouldn’t Comprehend what Im trying to say, You’re a child who assumes they know better and just nit picks at things that were already explained to you.

I think you should lay of the forums and go pick up a book.

Bro you get it lol

In my opinion what they did to the “ Thruster “ ; They should have left it out of the game completely…

I did not once touch or use it in the Campaign and I rarely see it in MP, unless its fiesta, which even then, I count use it if I have it cause it doesnt benefit me in any way.

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Exactly. The grapple feels fluid why not the thruster.

This right here is crucial. No longer can anyone say halo 5 was unpopular.

Right? I want to believe they will make adjustments to the “ Thruster “ Mechanic “, But I don’t know, I personally don’t believe its on there priority list at this time, even then though there testers, rather it was pro players or the “ Forerunner team ; They should of spoke up on the matter…

Will see in time though. :crossed_fingers:


I am glad you read that part, I apologize if you had to read that whole thing lol, but on the reviews, this to me is important like you said too ; And shows why Halo 5 is being brought up by Halo Content creators, streamers and on Twitter as the “ GO TO “ Halo game until Infinites issues are solved.

Show me what Creators/streamers are saying this.

The AI shouldn’t be in ranked but it isn’t changing. And of course it’s just another thing they can sell you. All this crap goes back to Reach in some way.
And the gameplay of those games are faster. Pressing more buttons just to move doesn’t mean you’re moving faster. It takes the same amount of time to get from your base to Pink on Midship in H5 as it does in H2 for example.
Sprint isn’t as bad in infinite because you can almost immediately shoot out of it. They do need to remove the ability to reload and recharge your shields though. Then they can increase the speed more so it’s balanced.

You cannot remove the critical or fan/general reception of MCC from the context of it launching broken on two different platforms, and still having issues to this day. So what you’re actually saying, is that a collection of imperfect ports of the older games, has a better rating than Halo 5 and Infinite. I liked Halo 5, but this is a silly way to argue the subject.