Link to Bravo’s Post Link to Dedicated Servers EU Thread
I just read the article… I don’t believe a word of it, it’s like when the US police racially attack innocent people… when they’re caught outright the police department of the given State or County call an internal investigation. Surprise, surprise they find themselves innocent and the investigation is closed.
343i is trying to say **“At a worldwide level, 95% of the Halo 5 matches played since launch have taken place on servers with 125ms ping or better.”**like the police force with their findings of no wrong doing these figures seem extremely exaggerated. There’s no way that I am playing on 125ms ping the game is so delayed most games I am getting 2500+ damage dealt however the kills wont rack up… meanwhile you look at the top player on the other team 1800 damage dealt and they have 3 times the amount of kills as I do. (I understand there is other variables in why this is but connection is certainly one of them) What a fair and competitive experience.
Ask yourself why can’t we check the ping of each game ourselves? Maybe it’s because they don’t want us to see how terrible the connection truly is most games from EU to US around 230-300ms with huge lag spikes throughout the game.
After reading this post from Bravo my hopes of server/region selection have massively diminished as I believe they’re just trying to cover their massive -Yoink- up in regards to the networking of this game. I am so disappointed with 343’s approach, the US always gets treated with 10x more respect than the rest of us and when we question and ask for change we are given false hope with posts from the forum team on the “Dedicated servers EU???” thread once every 6-7 weeks, and when we question further after the latest update; they give us an article basically implying that we are at best wrong in our estimates of what ping we have to the dedicated server.
The connection is unacceptable 343, you can show me 50 more MS paint graphs that you’ve made showing otherwise however how about you prove me wrong and implement a ping to server feature in the game and that way we can all see how great your networking truly is?
For the record I don’t like being rude and I don’t normally complain about anything a game developer does only 343i Why? because I love Halo and I want to play Halo but I can’t play Halo because of these issues are ruining my ‘competitive’ experience. You need to fix this FAST before the EU fanbase moves on as I can see you making the exact same mistakes like the MCC.
Prove me wrong, please.
EDIT: I will not be responding to any trolls with silly arguments that have already been debunked time and time again in the Dedicated Servers EU thread, latency is a major problem for Halo 5. A player located in the States on a US server with EU players connecting to the same server has a HUGE advantage in terms of their shots registering which is not a competitive experience. We are not cannon-fodder for the US market, however we are being treated as such and therefore this needs to be addressed properly. I will not be spending my time arguing with fanboys that say things like “your just BK random lelel” My highest rank is Champion in Slayer and Team Arena, my team and I qualified for HCS finals in London so I would certainly say I’m better than your average casual but the connection ruins the game.
As though 125 ms ping is anything to be proud of. I make it a point not to go above 80 when choosing a server, let alone going into the triple digits. For perspective, I’m a player in NC, and joining a TF2 server in CA (approximately 2775 miles apart) gives me just under 100 ping. I’m not exactly about to blow my load over the fact that most Halo matches take place on the same freakin’ continent.
Yeah I’ve not played it for a while but I’m pretty sure Titanfall my average ping is around 33ms so being under 125ms is not impressive at all. Titanfall got old fast for me but the one thing I never had a problem with was lag or my shots registering in the game it is super smooth and for that it deserves major credit.
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> As though 125 ms ping is anything to be proud of. I make it a point not to go above 80 when choosing a server, let alone going into the triple digits. For perspective, I’m a player in NC, and joining a TF2 server in CA (approximately 2775 miles apart) gives me just under 100 ping. I’m not exactly about to blow my load over the fact that most Halo matches take place on the same freakin’ continent.
When I play any PC game I rarely select servers above 60-70ms as the games I play are competitive. 125ms is not acceptable either however we are definitely not getting this low response to servers from EU to US most of the time. If I play 15 games in a row I’m lucky if ONE of those games is on the same continent that I live on. In this day and age is this acceptable from a company like 343i? The way the whole article is worded makes it sound like they are doing everything in their power to fix these unforeseen issues however I would argue they knew that these problems would occur from before launch. Who cares now they already have my money anyway!
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> "At a worldwide level, 95% of the Halo 5 matches played since launch have taken place on servers with 125ms ping or better."
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That is hilarious. Maybe because 95% of the Halo 5 population are playing in the U.S.? Both the Xbone and Halo 5 have bombed outside of the States.
Like I said before. You can defend 343i and Halo 5 for “being the biggest Halo launch ever, making $400 million” but none of that money went to fixing MCC, none of it is going to fixing Halo 5 (you are still paying for those free updates with your REQs purchases) and none of that money has gone to providing better servers or an overall better Halo experience. That money has not been used to give you a AAA experience.
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> That is hilarious. Maybe because 95% of the Halo 5 population are playing in the U.S.? Both the Xbone and Halo 5 have bombed outside of the States.
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> Like I said before. You can defend 343i and Halo 5 for “being the biggest Halo launch ever, making $400 million” but none of that money went to fixing MCC, none of it is going to fixing Halo 5 (you are still paying for those free updates with your REQs purchases) and none of that money has gone to providing better servers or an overall better Halo experience. That money has not been used to give you a AAA experience.
Agreed mate.
To add to that, they don’t link any evidence to prove their numbers. Further, ping alone is not the only issue. YOU can have a good connection, but when others have a bad one, that still influences your game. If anyone plays Battlefield, you will know what I mean (hence why high ping players are always kicked).
PR departments spin words and titles to make things sound better all the time.
They could tell you that Halo 5 sold more units than any Halo game before it, but what they won’t tell you is that the number of unique players 3 weeks after launch has fallen to 25% of that number. Whenever someone has to make a statement like that, its usualy because there is a dark truth hiding somewhere.
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> PR departments spin words and titles to make things sound better all the time.
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> They could tell you that Halo 5 sold more units than any Halo game before it, but what they won’t tell you is that the number of unique players 3 weeks after launch has fallen to 25% of that number. Whenever someone has to make a statement like that, its usualy because there is a dark truth hiding somewhere.
I and many others can see through the propaganda however most of Halo’s fanbase is younger people that would rather defend the billion dollar corporation than to fight for a better service.
Corporations man… capitalism I sound like a hipster.
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> PR departments spin words and titles to make things sound better all the time.
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> They could tell you that Halo 5 sold more units than any Halo game before it, but what they won’t tell you is that the number of unique players 3 weeks after launch has fallen to 25% of that number. Whenever someone has to make a statement like that, its usualy because there is a dark truth hiding somewhere.
Indeed.
We we can’t get them to tell the truth, as obviously they won’t do that. However I am not sure I have seen them ever admit mistakes, and they always say they take in community feedback…yet large requests such as playable elites and PvE warzone have been ignored-they haven’t acknowledged that we want PvE warzone (from what I know, if they have, then I haven’t seen it yet) something they said they will add if the fans wanted it-this is outlined in the thread about it. I’m trying to stay positive about 343, but nothing much they have done is giving me faith. Even EA listens to their community more (go on the need for speed or BF4 website for example, they have far better free updates than we do).
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> Corporations man… capitalism I sound like a hipster.
Yes I agree here. So many fans are falling for their PR, it’s saddening. And those very fans see us, that see through the PR as ‘haters’ even though we want a better experience for everyone. And please, before anyone calls me hater, I paid $150 on this game when I could have simply paid 60-70. I had faith in 343 after the beta and hunt the truth, but I fell for it. I see what is wrong with this game, and see its potential, and where it can improve. That’s not hating.
I myself don’t have to many lag spikes but you can tell players in the EU are at a disadvantage playing US servers I can punch someone but not get the trade cause the server reads they punched first cause they got a faster connection to the server. all 343 need to do is give us dedicated EU servers.
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> Although, at best, it’d be nice if they had that bar that indicates such from previous titles.
Ping is very simple to understand.
High= bad
Low= Good
Ive known this since i have first started playing battlefield, on console. What platform you are on doesn’t really come into it, and is no reason not to have it. Even a simple bar system is good enough. That being said though, if they did have it, even more people would be quitting matches when they see how bad their connection is. (Talking regional here).
Bravo’s post is absolute horse -Yoink- for a number of reasons.
However, the most important are:
The slide he uses to claim that the system is successful is a consolidation of all regions. We know for a fact that the vast majority of players are based in the US and considering that the game takes place on their servers, the data will be positively skewed in their favor.
We know that once you’re diamond and above, you’re actually part of a minority population in the game. If you broke down these results on diamond+ players, I bet it would look very different.
Still… I struggled to make out what he wanted to say with the post. Was is a way of saying that they think the experience is sufficient? Or are they actually doing something?