Request: Add Halo 5 to MCC

Games Halo: The Master Chief Collection
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This is something that has been on my mind for a while now, and the more I think about it the more I want to see it happen. I’ve seen people requesting H5 to have a full-fledged PC port, but honestly I think it would be even better to have it added in to MCC, for a good number of reasons, let me list up:

-Obviously, it adds the game to PC, meaning PC players aren’t missing out on one whole game and one part of the Halo story, as well as giving it crossplay functionality to be on par with the rest. As much hate as H5 got, and as much as the Campaign is mediocre at best, it is still a part of Halo’s legacy, and if left untouched it’ll just get left behind and forgotten, and that would be sad, plus anyone who is missing out still should get the ability to experience it anyway if they so choose.

-It’d not just add a whole bunch of content to MCC that could actually make up a whole new season, and it’d be using the way you unlock things on MCC too, meaning the infamous REQ system, which is one of the most hated parts of H5, would be gone. It’d be necessary to streamline it a bit due to the sheer amount of customization H5 has, as well as come up for something else to run Warzone but I’m sure it’s possible to come up with something simple and microtransaction-free.

-Its Forge mode is still undoubtedly amazing and it gave birth to tons of great Custom maps and modes that surpassed anything seen before, if they did a file transfer for it like the legacy games got, it’d allow for all that player-made content to live on since people put a lot of effort on it, and since it is a more recent 343-made game, a file transfer shouldn’t be as hard to pull off as legacy games, they still should have the assets.

-The Campaign could benefit from the other skulls and settings (such as the skin rework, which can also work in MP) that MCC got. H4 should be getting the update that brings Bandanna and Acrophobia to it soon, making H5 the only game without Bandanna since Infinite has it.

-Storage-wise, I still feel like H5 is heavier than it needs to be and it could stand to be compressed a little, which could be done on its transition to MCC, it’d be saving on UI, commemdations and the whole RNG machine of the REQ system by default. And anyone fearing MCC can get too massive with it can just choose to uninstall H5 from MCC, so no big deal there, it’d still most likely be lighter than having MCC and H5 both installed the way things are now.

-Lastly, it could actually give H5 a shot at redeeming one major issue it got and be granted split-screen back so there wouldn’t be a title on MCC that would be awkwardly missing on it. When discussing the idea of possibly updating H5 with new features this should be a no-brainer.

Now, I know all of this would be a major project, and 343 right now probably doesn’t have the time or assets to go and do this, since they’re knee-deep in a pool of issues dealing with Infinite, so I’m not saying this should become an immediate priority project. It would take a while, and as much as I heavily dislike Infinite the way it is now, I do think they should actually work that out first and make it be a proper game, but I still believe this should be done at some point. Halo 5 is already on its deathbed, and even MCC is currently suffering from population issues (not even kidding, the whole time I was writing this I was trying to find an Invasion match and I’m still searching) so might as well bring them together. Most detractors I’ve seen so far when discussing the idea tend to point at either the storage, how 343 has higher priorities right now, or just plainly saying no out of pure excessive hate for the game, the former 2 issues I covered up and the latter shouldn’t actually be an issue at all, H5 still has its fans and telling them that they shouldn’t be able to enjoy it would just be petty.

Anyway, that should about wrap things up. Idk how much attention this post will get but I needed to get the thought out there beyond just sharing it with my friends, I genuinely think this should 100% be done at some point.

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This is wishful thinking. Halo 5 has too much content to offer. Thousands of customization pieces, skins, and emblems. A lot of it would have to be cut to fit the MCC seasonal model or so much would be dumped into the exchange it would take years at the current rate to completely Halo 5. Additionally what motivation do they have to remove the REQ system besides people didn’t like it. It was an aspect that made them a decent amount of cash and was one of the few features that carried over to the disourse version of Halo Waypoint. They wouldn’t axe REQ support.

The pieces that would be removed are unfortunately the smallest storage space. The Xbox One’s RAM was pushed to its limit with the addition of Reach and including another title especially as large as H5 would have cascading technical issues across all titles. The collection doesn’t need another game. What Halo 5 needs is a standalone PC port.

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This! Halo 5 is best off having a standalone PC port along with a Xbox Series X／S optimization upgrade. It would be best to keep it separate from MCC not just because of the file size already exceeding 200 GB, but especially because of the other technical issues that would surface across all titles.

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MCC is big (and buggy) enough with just the six games, H5 shouldn’t be added to mcc… however I do agree that H5 should be brought over to PC vya (unlike Halo Wars 2) Steam. For as non halo as it is, it was still fun, and PC players shouldn’t miss out on it

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The vast majority of H5’s “expansive customization” relies purely on armor reskins, which you could easily make so they get unlocked alongside their base armor, that alone severely drops the amount of unlocks required and would make it fall in line with the amount of unlocks in a standard Season. Emblems or stances aren’t needed either, at most you could add a handful of H5-themed emblems to the existing pallette but given how they didn’t do that with Reach, it’s fine either way. The REQ system was pretty much universally hated, microtransaction systems in general are the bane of modern gaming, if Infinite’s awful unlocking system is any indication. It really should get axed entirely.

And as I said, storage really isn’t an issue. Sure MCC would be massive with all the titles on it but there are definitely other huge games out there, and as long as 343 actually know what they’re doing, adding a game to the collection shouldn’t have to have any influence on the state of the other existing games. That said I will admit 343 does have a bad track record with them adding some stuff in updates that somehow causes another part of the game to malfunction. These guys are a large triple A company running Microsoft’s flagship game franchise though. They really shouldn’t be as sloppy as they are. Computer promammimg and game designing may be hard as hell, but it’s still not rocket science, and a studio like them should be able to pull off those things without nearly as many issues as they have. If I was running of full bias, I’d even say abandon ship with the wreckage that is Infinite and pour all hands and resources on MCC because that’s where Halo’s potential is at, but I’m at least understanding enough that they wouldn’t do that, so instead make it a long term project. A simple, raw PC port of H5 wouldn’t add anything at all to the game and would still retain the terrible REQs, so it would still make the game get left behind.

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There are a few threads on here on the subject if you’re interested in having a look. Here’s 3 of them:

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/an-argument-for-adding-halo-5-guardians-to-the-master-chief-collection/531985

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/i-want-halo-5-on-mcc/521695

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/should-343-add-halo-5-to-mcc/230274

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Not necessarily true, If they gave Halo 5 a Standalone port, they would very likely expand upon the available Content as an incentive to bring in more players, just as they did with MCC.

The added benefit to a standalone port in this case though is that they don’t have to juggle the entire MCC around it to see Halo 5 specific updates get released, and with Req’s already existing, they could be incentivized to copy the infinite model for making the multiplayer free and selling the campaign separately without the backlash that would be inherent with MCC.

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No, dont do that. H5 is too big and too different in terms of the engine, it would only break mcc. It should come to PC as a standalone game on both steam and microsoft store tho

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Just go play halo 5, its not OG

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If they did that, they’d also have to update the console version of Halo 5 with that same content, including most likely Xbox Series X/S enhancements, and 343 has already said they’d stop updating H5 completely after Infinite’s release because it wasn’t plausible to work on 3 games at once. Were it to be added to MCC, they wouldn’t have to worry about that as they could work on it as a part of the collection. The only downside is that it would completely kill off the actual H5 for good, but that one is already stuck with minimal population. Also I was always extremely iffy about the whole free multiplayer aspect of Infinite and how it would let them get away with awful paywall-locked content, and charging full game price for a Campaign was also a very dumb idea, one which H5 wouldn’t get away with because at least Infinite’s Campaign is generally agreed upon to be very good, H5 on the other hand… very few people would actually buy it. Also allowing REQs to continue being a part of it is bad. It doesn’t matter what the current business model is, microtransactions just need to disappear from gaming for good, and MCC is managing to remain that safe haven in gaming away from all that money-grubbing nonsense.

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Nah, just give Halo 5 Halo 3 RANKING system and let WARZONE do the talking!

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Nope. Halo 5 should never be added and ideally, Halo 4 would be removed.

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Removing H4 is a terrible take. It’s been a part of MCC since it’s original launch 8 years ago. If you dislike it that much, you can just choose to not have it installed so you never have to play it. But why would you want less content for everybody? That’s a very selfish viewpoint.

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Not the MCC.

Port it to PC, optimize it for Series consoles, and begin supporting the game with new content like the MCC.

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I can guarantee you that is not the case. The budget and manpower to add H5 into the MCC would be larger because it’s more complicated to include it in the collection. If 343 ever gets around to updating H5 it would be cheaper and faster to update the existing game. Them working on it in the MCC as workaround to their previous commitments is a naive logical conclusion.

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As much as I’d like halo 5 to be revived and populated again. It might be took big to apear in the MCC. I’d atleast like the campaign to make a appearance.

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Is this a good time to point out that H5 is ALREADY on Xbox One?

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Unfortunately PC users don’t have the privilege

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Non c’è modo, don’t put Halo 5 on MCC but add Halo 5 as a standalone port to PC.
Along with this enhance Halo 5 on the Series X/S consoles with a FOV slider to it

I just don’t want them risking breaking MCC adding Halo 5 to it

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Iirc Halo 5 was half ported to PC for free, however it was just the Forge mode and Custom Games browser.

I feel if they just gave it a Steam Release, they could update it so that you can pay for the full game like Infinite does for it’s campaign, maybe integrate and merge all the content as it appeared in the Halo 5 Guardians Multiplayer Beta into the Free Halo 5 Forge component, to give new players a taste of what the full game has to offer, while also re-adding that limited selection of armor sets as rank-based unlocks that don’t require the Req system for those who buy the full game (literally what they should have done with Infinite).

https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_5:_Guardians_Multiplayer_Beta,