Req. Packs: DON'T SEEM RANDOM

Is it just me or has anyone else experienced this – if you use any weapon or piece of equipment saying it was your favorite weapon. Once you run out in your collection of any weapon or vehicle does it take you forever opening gold, silver, or bronze to regain a stock of any size for that specific req? I would like to know if this is just my bad luck of the draw or ???

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> Is it just me or has anyone else experienced this – if you use any weapon or piece of equipment saying it was your favorite weapon. Once you run out in your collection of any weapon or vehicle does it take you forever opening gold, silver, or bronze to regain a stock of any size for that specific req? I would like to know if this is just my bad luck of the draw or ???

It’s more the case that you’re wanting a specific thing or things when there are a huge number of options for it to pull. It’s like a lotto ball popper machine. It can pop up 1-99 and you really want a 17. Sometime you’ll get it and sometimes you won’t. It’s random. That is the way random works.

One: Certifications increase your chance of getting things, so if you don’t have the certification, you’re not likely to get it.
Two: Rarity affects your chances in two ways. Ultra Rares and Legendaries are not available in Silver Packs. Even in Gold Packs, they’re still rarer than the more common variants.
Three: You’re taking a system with a large number of possibilities and trying to apply it to a binary system of outcomes. If there are, say, 20 different REQs with the same rarity as the one you want, not only would it have to compete with those 20, already bringing it down to a 5% chance of dropping, but it would also have to fight with things outside of its rarity.
The system is not rigged against you. Unless your favorite is Phaeton, in which case it is very much rigged against you.

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> Is it just me or has anyone else experienced this – if you use any weapon or piece of equipment saying it was your favorite weapon. Once you run out in your collection of any weapon or vehicle does it take you forever opening gold, silver, or bronze to regain a stock of any size for that specific req? I would like to know if this is just my bad luck of the draw or ???

Basically a common thing people do is buy nothing but bronze packs till all the unlocks are done for that box tier then the same for Silver, then Gold. This is usually best way to get the certification for that weapon/vehicle certification but getting the weapon/vehicles generally seem to be random, doesn’t seem to restock for me automatically so I think it’s based on rarity, which is why I have too many mongoose’s that I barely use, barely any Wasps but the only reason why I have so many of everything is because of how long I’ve been playing this game overall.

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> Is it just me or has anyone else experienced this – if you use any weapon or piece of equipment saying it was your favorite weapon. Once you run out in your collection of any weapon or vehicle does it take you forever opening gold, silver, or bronze to regain a stock of any size for that specific req? I would like to know if this is just my bad luck of the draw or ???

Its definitely not just you. From all the responses I read here are basically telling you how the Req system and packs work with certification. I can see OP already has everything unlock since he is a max level. What the OP means is for example, you use quite a lot a certain weapon that you run off and you try to restock that weapon from packs and it seems that certain weapon drops to a point of almost non existence.

As for your concern, its not just you. For my case, its almost impossible for me to get whiplashes and they are barely uncommon for its rarity. The other day I was selling a lot of junk I don’t use to accumulate about 700k req points. I spent about 500k req points opening silver and gold packs just to get about 4 whiplashes? not to mention I got more higher rarity, more powerful weapons like answers, arclights, etc. So yeah i believe there a certain weapons that tent to drop way less often than other higher rarity ones. In addition, from the countless gold packs i opened i did not get a single ultra rare vehicle (random) card at all, i got more norfangs, helios, etc, but not one single ultra rare vehicle (random).

It’s most likely random, but it doesn’t seem like in a lot of instances. I’ve had more times than I can count where I’ll use a vehicle during a Firefight game and that same vehicle will be in the next gold pack that I open. I found it funny because I’ll intentionally not care about using a certain vehicle because I’ll just say to myself that I’ll get it back in my next pack and then it happened.

the shortest answer is its random but the rarity is based on a percentages. Then the game has to roll your chances several times, so getting a vehicle based req is a high percentage but then with in that section theirs a sub section for which rarity you’ve won. So now you have your gun based req and its rarity BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE now within the rarity we have to roll again because not every gun in that rarity has the same drop rate thats why getting a phaeton helios is even more rare then a regular phaeton.

Its like spinning a slot machine several times. The values are all based on certain percentages within sub sections of each other which is why reqs are stupid and a shameless money grab.

I, too, find it difficult to pull the needle (a.k.a. the one specific REQ I really want) out of the haystack (a.k.a. the entirety of the REQ system comprising hundreds of weapons and vehicle variants), especially when the needle is in a different spot every time I stick my hand in the haystack. It’s not rigged, it’s just probabilities.

The req sisyteim is difficult for unlock armor

I actually made a small statistical analysis on 320 gold packs - quite a small data set still but it supports a few feelings I had regarding req rarities.

A couple points I discovered are that Twin Jewels of Maethrillian appeared more than twice the amount of any other legendary REQ. Also Warzone rare xp jackpots appeared over 4 times more than any other rp or xp boost. So I think it’s safe to say that there are some weighs and trends in the REQ system, these examples being couple of the extreme ones.

Truthfully I don’t even look at what I get from packs anymore. I just open a handful at random every now and then. Back when I did pay attention, I never picked up on any patterns, other than I always got RP boosts instead of XP boosts, but I only used the XP boosts

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> Truthfully I don’t even look at what I get from packs anymore. I just open a handful at random every now and then. Back when I did pay attention, I never picked up on any patterns, other than I always got RP boosts instead of XP boosts, but I only used the XP boosts

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> > Is it just me or has anyone else experienced this – if you use any weapon or piece of equipment saying it was your favorite weapon. Once you run out in your collection of any weapon or vehicle does it take you forever opening gold, silver, or bronze to regain a stock of any size for that specific req? I would like to know if this is just my bad luck of the draw or ???
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> Its definitely not just you. From all the responses I read here are basically telling you how the Req system and packs work with certification. I can see OP already has everything unlock since he is a max level. What the OP means is for example, you use quite a lot a certain weapon that you run off and you try to restock that weapon from packs and it seems that certain weapon drops to a point of almost non existence.
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> As for your concern, its not just you. For my case, its almost impossible for me to get whiplashes and they are barely uncommon for its rarity. The other day I was selling a lot of junk I don’t use to accumulate about 700k req points. I spent about 500k req points opening silver and gold packs just to get about 4 whiplashes? not to mention I got more higher rarity, more powerful weapons like answers, arclights, etc. So yeah i believe there a certain weapons that tent to drop way less often than other higher rarity ones. In addition, from the countless gold packs i opened i did not get a single ultra rare vehicle (random) card at all, i got more norfangs, helios, etc, but not one single ultra rare vehicle (random).

Exactly PeterAK91, I unlocked everything in Dec. 2015. And to the monitor I’m 64 years old. I think by now I have the word ( random ) and the process down fairly well. Thanks for the info though I always enjoy learning. Golden Ranger. had an example also. I’ve topped out on XP but guess what I get in packs instead. of RP cards? You guessed it I get XP cards and barely no RP cards of any rarity. Funny I don’t get customization. cards. though . Still scratchting my head…

Sometimes I find if I sell some stuff, I’ll get a lot of the same back the next time I snag a gold pack. Or if I use certain things.

I just wish I got more random weapon and random vehicle cards. Don’t really care about setting slaying records, just looking to not be a detriment to the team, kill Marines, and make progress on vehicle related commendations. Random weapons makes warzone more enjoyable on my opinion.

Thanks everyone. I don’t if we will ever truly understand the Req. system. I truly think that the system is random and I never meant for anyone to think otherwise. There are some things I still don’t understand (other than the topic we’ve been on) . That is after i received all my armor, helmets, visors, and any other customizations they stopped coming in any of the packs. Now I’ve been at SR 152 for about 500 games now and i still get XP cards for both Arena & Warzone which i have no use for anymore. Now shouldn’t the code writer know that once you’re topped out on XPs that they shouldn’t show up in packs as the customization don’t come up after you’ve topped out on all that equipment? What am I missing here?

They are random, but some are higher probability than others. I myself have been desperate for Endgame lasers, but at 7% probability you have to go through about 13 gold packs to get one. If you let me know what you are looking for, I can tell you what the probability you will get it based on my experience.

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> I actually made a small statistical analysis on 320 gold packs - quite a small data set still but it supports a few feelings I had regarding req rarities.
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> A couple points I discovered are that Twin Jewels of Maethrillian appeared more than twice the amount of any other legendary REQ. Also Warzone rare xp jackpots appeared over 4 times more than any other rp or xp boost. So I think it’s safe to say that there are some weighs and trends in the REQ system, these examples being couple of the extreme ones.

I did the same, 320 gold packs is an adequate statistically valid sample size. My experience has shown that Kryth’s left hand is the most awarded legendary, followed by twin jewels. Warzone XP Jackpts was definitely the most awarded req from silver packs.

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Please don’t revive old topics. Thanks!