Can we please get rid of this stagnating monstrosity from this once great map? DMRs ruin the map enough without this Bug screwing it up.
We Have it on Exile and Longbow, we do not need it on Ragnarok.
I don’t think it ruins the map but I completely agree that we see it too much in matchmaking, it’s like a mentality of “here’s our new toy” and it’s placed on nearly every big team map. I’m not saying I dislike the vehicle, just the amount we see it as opposed to scorpions or wraiths for example.
Personally I’d say that Ragnarok would suit wraiths, camping on the hill with it isn’t as easy due to the mortar style shooting and its less easy to “drive” than the scorpion or mantis.
I think the Mantis should be removed altogether. It’s more powerful than any other vehicle and is pretty much the only reason PPs and PGs need to stay in loadouts. Remove the Mantis and you actually fix two problems.
I say keep it. Even though, Im a sniper on that map yes…fear me I prefer the Mantis. To have the Scorpion or the Wraith on that map, pretty much you will not be traveling far, b/c the map has many hills. If Halo 4 had Hemorrhage, then it would be acceptable, if you think about it.
I think the mantis should go, and the wraith should take its place. We see the wraith way too little in mm. Also, when Halo 3 first launched, there was a wraith at both bases in Valhalla and I remember it maneuvering just fine through the hills and rocks. I don’t like the mantis. It feels weird compared to the other vehicles. I also got the same feeling as Al when they added the mantis to almost every big team map. It’s on Meltdown, Ragnarok, Exile, Vortex, the greenish map from Crimson DLC and that desert map from the Castle DLC (I only got to play the desert one once and refused to remember the name of the green one because it was so bad, which is why I can’t remember the names, because of how poorly the DLC is handled but that rant is for another time).
-Mustapha
I think it should stay, but I do agree that it’s on way to many maps. It should only be place on 1 or 2 maps and let the wraith and scorpion be on some maps.
> I say keep it. Even though, Im a sniper on that map yes…fear me I prefer the Mantis. To have the Scorpion or the Wraith on that map, pretty much you will not be traveling far, b/c the map has many hills. If Halo 4 had Hemorrhage, then it would be acceptable, if you think about it.
I had more options than wraith or Scorpion, another Hog would have been fine.
I see the Mantis as what makes Ragnarok a challenge. Try and take down you’re opponent’s Mantis while defending yours. It makes Ragnarok not just another remake, but one with a fresh Halo 4 twist. Although it may aggravating at times, I say keep it. So call me delusional. (It’s probably what I am. :D)
I say replace it with a Wraith, as said before we don’t see it enough. I like the Mantis and all but, also as said before, we see too much of it.
I don’t have a problem with the mantis, it’s easy to destroy and most of the people doesn’t know how to use it properly.
> I don’t have a problem with the mantis, it’s easy to destroy and most of the people doesn’t know how to use it properly.
So basically you only want it so you can win easier. Should this vote be counted since its only in this persons favor instead of that of everyone.
> Can we please get rid of this stagnating monstrosity from this once great map? DMRs ruin the map enough without this Bug screwing it up.
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> We Have it on Exile and Longbow, we do not need it on Ragnarok.
Well, I would argue that Valhalla/Ragnarok is an inherently ruined map by its design and the Mantis only points out its flaws, plus a remake will never shine in the same light as the original but that’s not the point of this thread.
So, I agree that there are way too many Mantises in Halo 4’s multiplayer.
But to be honest, the Mantis is the only vehicle that can handle or rather is designed for the Infinity settings and hence I don’t really see another vehicle doing the gameplay on Ragnarok some favor or rather I don’t see another vehicle fairly survive unless you don’t change the settings.
It’s a shame that the Wraith doesn’t get any attention or that the Hogs just function as scenery pieces but unfortunately the majority of the vehicles just doesn’t work on Halo 4’s default maps. Either because of the maps themselves or because of the settings.
So, in regards to Infinity settings I don’t see any vehicle being able to replace the Mantis but of course you could simply remove the Mantis from Ragnarok however.
But in regards to H4’s more vehicular friendly settings like Big Team Slayer (preset loadouts, Ordnance disabled) I think even a Hog will work relatively well as a replacement of the Mantis on any map. In regards to Ragnarok I would significantly increase the spawn time of the Splaser on the hill additionally though.