Replace the Assault Rifle with the scoped SMG from ODST?

I for one miss the SMG greatly, and find it would be a perfect replacement for the Assault Rifle! The SMG has a lot of better qualties in my opinion. I will list them

-When you shoot for a long period of time, your aimer starts to move up. I think this would add maybe a little bit more skill than the Assault Rifle since you can’t spray and pray as well.

-It has a scope, we have barely seen a machine gun with a scope. To me I think it’s awesome, since it would balance it out a bit (maybe if we made it weaker and a bigger clip?)

-It looks way better than the Assault Rifle. Now this is just an opinion.

Thoughts?

Could be the LMG people have been complaining about wanting for “so long”. I’d use it :slight_smile:

Gun is automatic.
Gun has scope.
It’s either or, not both.
The BR was the exception. Scope with 3 shot burst.

Not that I think it’s a bad idea but it just generally doesn’t happen. ODST was different because that wasn’t a multiplayer weapon.

I like the assault rifle better. But if they brought that SMG back the we should get the old assault rifle.

Could all these weapons fit together?

SMG > AR > BR > DMR > Snipe?

I think they can and I’d say to use the BR and SMG as default weapons, the AR as a superior pickup to the SMG and the DMR to extend the BR’s limited damage outside its range.

SMG AND AR, sure : ) Probably prefer the H3 SMG though, rather than ODST’s stealth one. Not quite the right feel.

I actually quite liked ODST’s scoped SMG. :slight_smile:

> Could all these weapons fit together?
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> SMG > AR > BR > DMR > Snipe?
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> I think they can and I’d say to use the BR and SMG as default weapons, the AR as a superior pickup to the SMG and the DMR to extend the BR’s limited damage outside its range.
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> SMG AND AR, sure : ) Probably prefer the H3 SMG though, rather than ODST’s stealth one. Not quite the right feel.

I…I…I love it!

I just think we should have broader field of UNSC weaponry. Who says we can’t have the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, ODST SMG, Magnum, the ODST pistol, the Machine Gun, and maybe a Machine Gun that you don’t have to rip off a turret and get’s a decent amount of range for a change. Heck, I wouldn’t even mind if the added even more weapons (caugh…caugh…double-barrel shotgun…caugh…caugh). With possibly the subtraction of Covenant weapons in Halo 4, anything is possible!

> > Could all these weapons fit together?
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> > SMG > AR > BR > DMR > Snipe?
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> > I think they can and I’d say to use the BR and SMG as default weapons, the AR as a superior pickup to the SMG and the DMR to extend the BR’s limited damage outside its range.
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> > SMG AND AR, sure : ) Probably prefer the H3 SMG though, rather than ODST’s stealth one. Not quite the right feel.
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> I…I…I love it!

Cheers man : )

-BR for general functionality and flexibility. Tone down the maximum range a little bit, that’s fine by me.
-DMR to keep snipers out of scope and hit people while staying out of their BR’s range.
-SMG as start so that it can do the AR’s rapidfire beatdown with an even shorter range, and absolutely outgun anything else at that range.
-Lastly, the AR to outrange the SMG and stay out of its range, and compete with the BR in close quarters, deshielding and forcing a retreat or outgunning at a close range.

Snipe doesn’t need any explanation, all that would need to be done would be to have the DMR kill in four or five shots (five ideally with a fast fire rate, so that it can’t kill a sniper near cover but it can keep them out of scope, and it can outgun a BR user at mid-long range and onwards).

I’d be down for having both the Halo 1/3/Reach Pistol alongside the Halo 2 pistol too, because both are awesome and quite different.

Great Ideas guys! And I would like to keep the silencer on it, it gives it a stealthy feel :slight_smile:

I’d rather have the H3 smg duel wieldable. If the scoped smg came back I doubt you could duel wield a scoped weapon. And I’d rather have duel wield than the scope.

However as somebody else said there could be a scoped LMG…

How about we add back the dual wieldable SMGs AND add the scoped SMG all while keeping the AR?

> How about we add back the dual wieldable SMGs AND add the scoped SMG all while keeping the AR?

That’s be great. But very unlikely.

> I for one miss the SMG greatly, and find it would be a perfect replacement for the Assault Rifle! The SMG has a lot of better qualties in my opinion. I will list them
>
> -When you shoot for a long period of time, your aimer starts to move up. I think this would add maybe a little bit more skill than the Assault Rifle since you can’t spray and pray as well.
>
> -It has a scope, we have barely seen a machine gun with a scope. To me I think it’s awesome, since it would balance it out a bit (maybe if we made it weaker and a bigger clip?)
>
> -It looks way better than the Assault Rifle. Now this is just an opinion.
>
> Thoughts?

They probably won’t do that because the Assault Rifle is the iconic weapon Master Chief is most seen with.

I think we should have both. They both fill certain roles. The Assault Rifle should be what it’s always been, an Assault Rifle. I’m pretty sure the ODST SMG is the ONLY non-precision (headshot) fully Automatic Weapon. It’d be awesome to have both.

> I for one miss the SMG greatly, and find it would be a perfect replacement for the Assault Rifle! The SMG has a lot of better qualties in my opinion. I will list them
>
> -When you shoot for a long period of time, your aimer starts to move up. I think this would add maybe a little bit more skill than the Assault Rifle since you can’t spray and pray as well.
>
> -It has a scope, we have barely seen a machine gun with a scope. To me I think it’s awesome, since it would balance it out a bit (maybe if we made it weaker and a bigger clip?)
>
> -It looks way better than the Assault Rifle. Now this is just an opinion.
>
> Thoughts?

both.

dont remove the AR

have both.