Good luck using a bulldog on a sword using zombie. 🧟♂️
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Maybe they dont want it to end up like Halo 5’s social playlists for the last 4 years:
Quick Play (slayer on 3 maps)
Fiesta
BTB Fiesta
Castle Wars
Infection
Also, they’ve been doing the same thing for like 13 years starting with H3 double xp weekends. They could do like H3 and put it in other playlists like quick play.
It should be thrown in action sack!
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Technically the population should be even bigger than Halo 5’s ever was because they went FtP. There’s no reason for rotating modes anymore.
Also, to the people who say get rid of it or throw it in Action Sack(which doesn’t exist atm anyways). What if I told you your favorite mode should just be thrown in some merged Playlist?
I’m not saying Fiesta is my favorite, but I would prefer a system where I could play exactly what I want when I want and I believe you should too. Just because I don’t like a mode doesn’t mean others should suffer a merged playlist for it(or it being gotten rid of entirely).
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Population is a consideration, but not the only one. Keeping the selection fresh helps keep players coming back to see what’s new.
Personally I’d love to see much more control to what people play though. I’m not very technical, but I don’t see why we can’t just open up a list and check all the maps and modes that we’re interested in playing.
I hate that Fiesta is not a playlist but to be perfectly fair, I don’t play the game going “OH BOY TIME TO GET A FEW ROUNDS OF FIESTA IN!”
I just hope that even though Fiesta is no longer a matchmade playlist, the mode still exists as a Custom.
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I hesitate to say people should have freedom to pick maps… I got frustrated by map meta in Reach when people would only vote a few maps to play.
Also, rotating the same modes in and out is a false sense of new. It only keeps it fresh if they explicitly tie events to it.
If people like playing it and people queue for it then it should be a playlist. Anything that’s popular enough to sustain a population should be a playlist.
Also, it’s unclear if it will be possible to make a custom Fiesta mode after the event ends. Currently, players are unable to select “random weapon starts” and “random equipment starts”, or even starting equipment at all. The only way to make a custom game fiesta mode is to use the built in mode which only arrived this week, and may yet disappear along with the event.
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Keeping the selection fresh helps keep players coming back to see what’s new.
I don’t like being denied the opportunity to play game modes I enjoy in matchmaking because 343 decided they aren’t “fresh” enough for me.
Personally I’d love to see much more control to what people play though. I’m not very technical, but I don’t see why we can’t just open up a list and check all the maps and modes that we’re interested in playing.
I agree, that would be nice
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I thought it was obvious that “throw it in action sack”. Meant “create an action sack playlist and add fiesta and other modes in there”.
Objectives has always been merged and fiesta has typically been in action sack, no?
Yes it was obvious what you meant. Because I said it in my message you quoted.
The better solution isn’t merged playlists, it’s choosing what modes I want to currently play and it puts me in the first game available under those conditions. Like MCC.
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The only issue with that is that fiesta is a pretty niche game mode variant. There are a ton of other variants and it’s a bit untenable to have a match composer option for every community game mode. That’s why I think it continues to make sense in action sack because it is a very casual, relaxed mode.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t grifball have a selection in MCC? Isn’t that a casual community made game mode that usually exists in action sack?
I could be wrong but I didn’t think it had a dedicated option. Either way I think it would make sense to dump both of them in action sack, at least for now.
Edit: I think it is also worth pointing out that grifball is more unique than fiesta. Fiesta is literal team slayer with random weapon spawna where as grifball is neutral bomb with modifies player attributes, weapon spawns, bomb times, a custom map, etc. But either way, they are both under that action sack umbrella Imo.
I looked it up and you could pick grifball, but action sack was another thing, which I believe Fiesta is under like you’re saying. Regardless, I want a composer. There’s no reason why they can’t have one when the game is FtP, so there are plenty of players to go around.
If there aren’t, then it’s not the composer that’s killing it. Composer issues with certain settings is a side effect of a low population, not the cause of it. If the game is fun, and it’s free, people will be there.
Agreed, it needs more playlists at the very least with composer on top of that being a great addition.
Least they could do is action sack 
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Is there any reason they couldn’t just do:
Fiesta
Slayer
Objective
BTB
Ranked
and whatever the current Limited Time Mode is? Seems like it would be a decent option for everyone. I wasn’t a huge Fiesta fan at first but it’s actually a really fun mode, forcing you to start with a variety of weapons.
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We’ll have to see if they have an action sack playlist eventually with Fiesta in it. I don’t really think it needs a full playlist all the time, but it could certainly be a mode in action sack.
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I don’t really think it needs a full playlist all the time
But why not? What would be the harm in that?
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