Remove the XP Caps

And no, I didnt typo the title. I did mean to say caps, because there is another cap that I am sure most people have not noticed.

Everyone is aware of the cap that blocks all progress through gaining levels that comes up, hopefully, every once in a while. The one that utterly insults my intelligence by existing though is the cap on XP earned per game. Its like they want to punish people for playing in a mode they like well by restricting how much you can earn per game. As it is right now, it sorta annoys me that I only get 5950xp per game of Spartan Ops I play, 11900 for those with Double Xp codes, even though I may have ended up carrying the team I was with through the mission. If anything, it actually encourages players to not put in as much effort as they should because they know when its all over that the person ahead of them will still make the same chunk of xp that they did.

I really wanna hear from 343i on why something like that was implemented or even believed to be a good idea, because its more of a slap in the face to see than the XP cap that blocks any progression whatsoever for the fact that all it does is get in the way of legitimate progression.

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I am not allowing this to be ignored. People need to know that 343 thinks so little of them that they thought people wouldnt notice a cap on XP for each game you play.

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Back up again because this board is apparently very fast.

I havent noticed the second one but the unable to level up has happeded to me once… thanks for the info i will be sure that it spreads. :slight_smile:

> I havent noticed the second one but the unable to level up has happeded to me once… thanks for the info i will be sure that it spreads. :slight_smile:

It just started to click with me after playing Battle on Valhalla for a couple days. Most of the time when I beast through the mission (50+ kills), it always stops at 5950. Doesnt matter if I was just doing enough to get an Unfrigginbelievable or if I just outright carried the team with a 71 kill run. Same payout for either match.

I could almost accept that there is a daily cap, but its just plain insulting to see a game cap that punishes me for playing better than everyone I was paired up with.

Bumping threads is against the forum rules. Don’t do so again, thanks.

> Bumping threads is against the forum rules. Don’t do so again, thanks.

No offense, but this sounds like you actually dont want people to know that they are being punished for playing the game seriously. What with the forum moving fast enough to make this thread leave in a matter of minutes, and in fact it left the front page inside of five minutes after the first bump.

I actually like the cap. Plus with a ranking system that has nothing to do with skill, why would the XP recieved per game be based on skill?

Pretty big assumption, there, mate. But that’s not the case at all. Rules are rules, and there are plenty of threads regarding the XP cap that you could have posted in as well. Don’t think you’re being singled out because you got a torch and pitchfork, that’s just not the case, I’d call out anyone bumping threads, and have done so before.

Though, on topic, NO ONE is being punished for playing the game. The XP cap is by no means a punishment, the game doesn’t magically prevent you from playing after you hit it. There are plenty of people out there who keep playing, including myself, long after they hit the cap for the day. You’re more then welcome to keep playing after hitting the cap as well, as was done in games long before progressive ranks even existed.

He’s not even talking about the Daily XP cap, he’s talking about the ~3k XP payout per game no matter what the performance per player is…

> Pretty big assumption, there, mate. But that’s not the case at all. Rules are rules, and there are plenty of threads regarding the XP cap that you could have posted in as well. Don’t think you’re being singled out because you got a torch and pitchfork, that’s just not the case, I’d call out anyone bumping threads, and have done so before.
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> Though, on topic, NO ONE is being punished for playing the game. The XP cap is by no means a punishment, the game doesn’t magically prevent you from playing after you hit it. There are plenty of people out there who keep playing, including myself, long after they hit the cap for the day. You’re more then welcome to keep playing after hitting the cap as well, as was done in games long before progressive ranks even existed.

So why is there a hard limit to what someone can earn in a game then? If the players are not being punished for performance reasons, why is it that I have yet to break 5950 xp? It cant be because I’m not putting out because I certainly pull my own weight if not lead the pack for my team in each Spartan Ops match. Only reason would have to be because of someone in 343.

Either way, I really dont appreciate being told to let a topic be completely ignored because its not seen inside of an minuscule time frame allowed by the high level of activity on this particular board.

Dude, you broke the rules, leave it be.

On another note, I don’t like the cap either - but the cap you speak of, is it specific to Spartan Ops? Because I get capped at 2931 (or something like that) after EVERY game of War Games I play. And to whomever said that XP doesn’t rely on skill - it does, hence why you get MORE XP if you do better, and win the game.

> He’s not even talking about the Daily XP cap, he’s talking about the ~3k XP payout per game no matter what the performance per player is…

Its 5950 max. That is the cap I am talking about. 11900 if you happen to be using a Double XP code from the current promo going on.

> Dude, you broke the rules, leave it be.
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> On another note, I don’t like the cap either - but the cap you speak of, is it specific to Spartan Ops? Because I get capped at 2931 (or something like that) after EVERY game of War Games I play. And to whomever said that XP doesn’t rely on skill - it does, hence why you get MORE XP if you do better, and win the game.

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I couldnt give a frosty -Yoink- if he is getting on me for breaking the rules. If he hadnt insinuated that my topic wasnt worth people seeing, I’d have just ignored him outright. Fact of the matter is, Waypoint Staff just tried to say that a topic pointing out that there is a limit to what you can earn per game exists and that people dont have a right to know about it. That is pretty scummy behavior seeing as our feedback should be taken into account.

FYI, we didnt approve of the daily cap existing in Reach and we sure as hell dont approve of it now. Putting in an additional cap to what you can earn per match is just insulting seeing as there was never a cap like that in Reach.

> > He’s not even talking about the Daily XP cap, he’s talking about the ~3k XP payout per game no matter what the performance per player is…
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> > On another note, I don’t like the cap either - but the cap you speak of, is it specific to Spartan Ops? Because I get capped at 2931 (or something like that) after EVERY game of War Games I play. And to whomever said that XP doesn’t rely on skill - it does, hence why you get MORE XP if you do better, and win the game.

I never insinuated such a thing. I simply told you that bumping your thread, which you did twice, is against the rules that we all must follow, forum staff and users alike. It’s the nature of forums, particularly ones that move quickly. Don’t assume that just because your topic is not on the front page, it won’t get seen.

If you think my behaviour is ‘scummy’, then by all means, report my post, giving a valid reason. As I mentioned above, we’re all bound by the same rules here, so if I am in any violation, I’ll be dealt with.

I like the cap. 5950 xp is good. Lets keep it. Lets go play Halo.

> > He’s not even talking about the Daily XP cap, he’s talking about the ~3k XP payout per game no matter what the performance per player is…
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> > On another note, I don’t like the cap either - but the cap you speak of, is it specific to Spartan Ops? Because I get capped at 2931 (or something like that) after EVERY game of War Games I play. And to whomever said that XP doesn’t rely on skill - it does, hence why you get MORE XP if you do better, and win the game.

You may want to think about what you say, sir. I’m not a moderator, nor am I trying to be one in any way, but keep talking like that, and I have a feeling you may get yourself removed from the site for a while.

Now, on topic, I do agree. An xp cap is annoying. Is it worth 400+ threads? No. Is it worth getting youself banned? No.

But honestly, just make one large thread and stick to it. Be polite as possible, talk kindly and respect others, and you might just get your thoughts heard. Spamming the forums, constantly bumping your posts, and bad mouthing moderators will get you absolutely nowhere.

Alright?

> > He’s not even talking about the Daily XP cap, he’s talking about the ~3k XP payout per game no matter what the performance per player is…
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> > On another note, I don’t like the cap either - but the cap you speak of, is it specific to Spartan Ops? Because I get capped at 2931 (or something like that) after EVERY game of War Games I play. And to whomever said that XP doesn’t rely on skill - it does, hence why you get MORE XP if you do better, and win the game.

You say “we” as if you’re part of some kind of Halo Elite? You’re valued just as much as the next guy, so don’t go thinking you’re the man because you max out the XP cap every game, and 343 has to change it. There are plenty of people that don’t hit that cap - and frankly, 343 aren’t gonna tailor for the minority. Hey, I’d like the cap lifted too, but I don’t want it abused either - because there were some crazily ranked guys in Reach, that I could beat easily, and their rank didn’t mean a thing - it was simply because they played far more than most of us. The XP cap prevents people abusing the system.

What is bumping threads, if someone could answer? Thanks

> What is bumping threads, if someone could answer? Thanks

Posting in a thread to get it to the front page, so more people can see it/post in it.

Halo 4 “levels” do not relate to a players skill, and I forgot you were playing spartan ops, war games is 2950 XP. Since the level/rank a player has doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with a players skill, neither should the XP payouts, enough said.