Agree that map is the worst for all game modes and types.
I’ve been spawn killed before I’ve able to move too many times on that map.
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Why anyone would run the flag through the lift just baffles me, it’s far quicker and safer to run it through the repulsor spawns.
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I have NO idea why they would ever think those are good maps for 4v4… 8v8 and up only. So dumb.
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launch site is worse
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I feel like Behemoth would be fine if you cut off the outer 10-20% of the map or something. The empty edges just ruin the map in my opinion.
Launch Site is probably irredeemable though. That map is just bad. Cool concept, bad execution.
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Maps like aquarius was essential all halo 5 had, not a fun experience.
I’d also like to add that all the vehicle spawns are on same side meaning that the team that spawns their first can dominate by spawning vehicles.
honestly, it’s come to the point where i am considering just quitting out every time it comes up, rank be -Yoink!-. i hate it so much and so does everyone else i ask about it. i have no clue why its still in rotation. the map alone makes me not want to play the game. example, it just came up, and now i’m gonna go play something else
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Behemoth is awesome! Launch Site is F Tier champion it’s absolutely garbage trash for everything except One Flag.
It shouldn’t be in 4v4, it’s too big. It’s too small for btb but a squad battle playlist would be perfect for it. The map would run great 6v6 BR starts.
Either way I hate it
Can we get more maps first before taking away from the small pool we have right now?
Ranked does not have vehicles. Vehicles still appear in the map on casual playlists (outside of Swat)
Behemoth should b added to BTB.
I joined a match where I had 3 guys with mics and we all collectively groaned at the site of this horrible map. Goes to show how bad it is and is received by the players.
Another update, i managed to get both a scorpion and wraith for my team, we then just dunked on our enemies. but the 2 most controversial maps are the only ones with vehicles. think back to halo 3, try not to cry, then try to remember how the maps managed to balance vehicles with on the ground combat, something that infinite doesn’t really do. its either everyone is in a vehicle on a map or no-one is. halo 3 had just enough vehicles to make them powerful, enough power weapons to take them down with some effort, and just weak enough that you have to consider riding in one. vehicles in halo infinite scramble that scale, the hog and banshee are extremely weak, while the scorpion can tank (pardon the pun) several rockets and skewer shots. not to mention finding th power weapons isn’t an easy task either.
probably not BR starts, it would just be cross map sniping. still like the BR though.
I just went back to halo 2 and halo 3, playing midship and other 4 v 4 levels alike… I the spawns are so much worse than in behemoth. You literally spawn getting shot at.
Nah man, behemoth is fine, 4v4 feels great in and there’s plenty of room for cover and manoeuvring around. It’s a lot better than midship or even aquarius which gives you no cover whatsoever.
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I think Launch site is fun as hell for one flag AND slayer. (and fiesta. i don’t remember what other modes are on it) People saying ‘this map is bad! this map is also bad!’ is like 99% of the time just someone’s opinion they’re trying to make fact. Like, yeah, it’s obviously set up as a ‘base attack mode’ type map. But at the same time that doesn’t make it completely useless for other modes.
And I sure hope you’re attempting to communicate with your team through either chat or markers or a combination before writing them off as ‘not grasping the concept’. Some people are new, some people don’t do strategies well or only know ones you aren’t familiar with. I’ve had some incredible slayer matches on Launch Site simply because we were able to communicate. Just my 2c
I thought they did take out vehicles in ranked on Behemoth though? Or maybe I’m thinking of SWAT…
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I do and it sometimes pulls together. Here is the thing…I don’t actually hate the map…I feel the shift in game mode just needs to either be highlighted or emphasized more OR it really just needs to have it’s own playlist centered around those ideas.
I actually really like base attack game types and feel they are truly lacking in multiplayer gaming right now.
The map works ok for slayer but the weapons and vehicles just destroy it for me depending on the flow of the match and team mates…
same issue with one flag. Teammates ignoring the vehicles like we aren’t going to need those at all to storm this base and get this flag back to base at any type of speed
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Team mates who not getting we are holding this side of the map, and a decent team that gets the game is coming with those same vehicles, and going to smash us and grab our flag… meanwhile they can’t protect it our flag, due to them having to flee from the same GHOST that they ignored last round or somehow going to ignore next round like they didnt just get smashed and grabbed with that very ghost protecting the enemy team lol…
just saying they don’t seem to get it sometimes.
I hope you get the layout as I have come across it so often…and explaining not to you but just describing experiences lol.
now, I could always say the answer is GET A TEAM lol…but I just dont always have people and quick match just jumping in is already a gamble as far as wins go, adding this game mode and map in the “flow” I believe effects how we the community feels about it.
So, saying all that to say this…make a proper base attack objective heavy playlist and go for it!
Make maps heavily designed this way and leave arena slayer, CTF, Oddball etc
this is also coming from a reach fan who really liked invasion lol so…take that in mind. I am all for these game types, just doesn’ t flow well or work out for me in quick match generally.
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I 2nd that 100%
I wonder whether there was someone at 343 who thought Behemoth would qualify for a Valhalla replacement
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I don’t mind the map as much as I mind playing CTF on it. Glad they removed it from ranked.