You never had that experience because you are playing at Gold and Plat. Climb to Diamond+ and your opinion will change. The map is trash for ranked. As someone who plays at 1700 CSR this map is dog water and unfun to play.
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Nobody:
Competitive players when there’s a map that isn’t hyper condensed with the BR as the only weapon on the entire map completely ruining the sandbox:
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I play mostly Swat and agree it should not be there, but I don’t know about removing the map entirely. It is my least favorite map in Ranked, but the map has a certain charm to it.
Launch Site is another one that I dislike but I wouldn’t go as far as saying removing it from the rotation. It has its place. We just haven’t found what that place is yet.
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I agree with everything besides removing it from the game. It is an excellent map and design. Super OG Halo vibes.
Those are not map specific, i get spawn killing on Live fire and Aquarius. Should we remove those maps?
And im not questioning anyones skill, some people do better in some styles of maps than others. Launch site and Behemoth are the best maps for my style of objective modes.
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Im mostly a social player, and im perfectly fine if they remove it for ranked. Its a different ball game indeed.
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I was thinking that too the map can fit a 5v5 or 6v6. Definitely not 8v8 it would be too many ppl and it would make that big map look small.
Yeah, it might actually be a fun map to play on with 6v6.
You’re right this map is the only one that makes me sick, it should be a BTB map, just imagine that fits a Banshee.
I used to hate Behemoth. Grappleshot changed that.
I dont get the behemoth hate, besides maybe in comp. The smaller maps people always spawn behind me, always being shot in the back even when 3 of them are in front of me, or I spawn in front of them.
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with fiesta, the side that doesnt get most of the vehicles still has a few spawns. but it is still unfair, i will agree
yeah, any map that cn fit a banshee should be a btb, but then its too small for a btb map
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I don’t think removing ‘Behemoth’ is the way to go. I believe they should go back to the drawing board, repurpose the map by stretching it out a bit, and reformulate it into a ‘BTB’ exclusive.
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Behemoth probably was a BTB map, before 343 decided to do 12v12 BTB. It’s on par for what use to be considered a small BTB map.
Behemoth is fine. Launch site is utter garbage on the other hand.
It just needs to be better utilized, in ranked with no vehicles and br starts it’s pretty bad, for swat the spawning is terrible, though I do enjoy the ranged firefights in swat.
Itd be a lot better for arena if the power weapons spawned in the bases where the sniper appears in ranked, it could also be pretty fun for strongholds.
I’m psyched that vehicular combat is there in 4v4, and with a little forging I think behemoth could be a pretty special objective map
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Behemoth is in ranked because they felt it required more feedback before being "stage ready " for events. It’s almost universally disliked by competitive players for all the reasons in the OP.
I personally think it’s beyond tuning without completely changing it into a new map altogether when it comes to “stage” ready. I’d like it to be removed myself…but at the same time there’s hardly any maps in 4v4 as it js…so it sucks to remove something when we barely have anything there. Idk. I guess I’d probably still say remove it Honestly, but I don’t see that happening before we get a V2. If V2 fails it will get scrapped like Orion from h5.
I cant imagine strong holds on it. Would be terrible man. It’s just way too open with terrible spawns. With some tuning of the maps design and tightening up…idk I mean we would have to see it’s next incarnation to say for sure. It’s current state I’d say ctf is the only thing close to actually working although it’s clearly flawed still. I have talked to people who say they like the map, but they’re playing in the lower skill tiers where I think they’re less affected by just how much spawns do to the match. The more competitive players though, man everyone let’s out a big groan immediately once it loads up. They hate it. Gorgeous map though. I can’t take that away from it.
Behemoth is no more open than live fire or streets. Everywhere you go you have dunes and rocks to shield from the lines of sight. There’s a lot of elevation in the terrain too.
I honestly do not understand the complaints. In the mean time we have Aquarius which has absolutely no cover from the line of sights and every match is chaos… That one is OK for ranked? Lol
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What, really? I love Behemoth. I think it’s a lot of fun. Maybe not if you’re getting spawn sniped in SWAT, that should definitely be fixed. But for slayer it’s fun and as much as I hate CTF I’d rather it be on Behemoth. Launch site is fun too imo it can suck for SWAT but there’s so many good places to hide, corners to creep around, etc. Idk. Radar should be bigger, but I don’t think the maps are the problem. You just gotta learn how to optimize how you play it. Fiesta on both of these are fun as hell, imo specifically because of the random vehicle spawns.
I’m actually starting to think a lot of you just straight up hate having fun? Like if something isn’t specifically done the way you think it is you won’t let yourself enjoy it. Like. Chill, please. Make the best of what you get spawned in with in a fiesta and try to make it ridiculous and fun? That’s what I’ve been doing and I’m having a blast.
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