Remove stalker and mangler from tactical slayer

I literally googled this knowing I can’t be the only one. I swear, 9 games out of 10 it’s sidekicks, manglers, or stalkers. So sick of this. Should be an entirely different game mode

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We need ranked queues for diffrent types anyway. But SWAT had always BR+SK. So why do they change it to 1 weapon anyway…

Honestly I love stalker swat because it’s the one gamemode where that weapon actually makes sense and feels like it works really well. Usually when you find it in BTB it does too little damage to use at sniper range and is too hard to aim closer up to be viable against most rivals at those ranges.

In swat it feels super fun and satisfying, and plays quite differently to regular swat probably because of the higher zoom and higher difficulty at landing headshots. Ends up being super rewarding if you’re good with it.

Haven’t played much mangler swat to comment but I’m all for variety in playlists so I’m glad they’ve kept it!

I think all the variants suck. The worst is the commando. The way that thing jumps around while trying to land a headshot is f’ing crazy. The a mangler that is shooting what? Tennis balls? Does NOT belong here! The stalker seems like an alien sniper rifle, so put that crap in a sniper playlist. The sidekick should be called nokick as can take several headshots or just one, not sure what the deal is with that thing but it’s nothing like the magnums or shwatguns. There needs to ne a separate playlist for the variants and one for just BR’s. I bet there will be 10x more players in the BR. There are MANY people quitting game after game and I will admit I am one of those. That did NOT happen when it was just BR’s. NONE.

I don’t understand why 343 won’t do anything as it’s been discussed a ton here but apparently its falling upon deaf ears…

I totally agree. Historically, Halo SWAT/Tatical Slayer has primarily focused on precision hitscan weapons (with some outliers being CE and Halo 3). I believe that this is when this game mode is at it’s best. I mostly wish Manglers are removed. Having a slow projectile with massive bullet drop goes strongly against what traditional SWAT has always been about. The Stalker Rifle doesn’t bother me quite as much because it is hitscan. But the huge tracers can be distracting and give your position away too easily. So, if I could, I would remove both but I would be happy with at least getting the Mangler removed.

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get those guns out of swat, they absolutely dont belong, ESPECIALLY nothing projectile, at least give us the option to filter games by what guns we want to use. id take an ar in swat over a stalker and a mangler, but be happy with just br, commando, and sidekick.

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I disagree,

They should have a drop down weapon menu in the user interface where you can select you load out weapon before starting the game. Then, if you want a br, you get a br, otherwise you might want to practice with another weapon.

This idea works for team slayer, last man standing… etc. pretty much everything but ranked.

Because it seems like your shots don’t count too often with mangier and stalker.

I like Mangler SWAT when my ping is good. If they fix the networking it’s fine.