Remove/Nerf the Boltshot

I’m at the end of my patience with this -Yoinking!- gun. I have no idea who thought it would be a good idea to give someone a LOADOUT weapon that can kill in one shot and has a longer kill distance than the Scattershot. The shotgun and boltshot are about dead even in terms of lethality. Shotgun is just more forgiving if you miss.

The halo 3 mauler is WEAKER than the boltshot. Think about that.

The common argument I hear from the Boltshot defense force is

“It’s hard to hit your target because of the charge and if you miss you’re screwed.”

lol, ok. Maybe for SOME people its hard to get kills with the boltshot. I find it incredibly easy. It’s my 5th tool of destruction. Basically tied for 4th since it and melee are so close. Hell, they both would be tied for 3rd if I didn’t get so many sniper kills in the snipes playlist. I don’t buy this excuse. Maybe its only an issue at a higher level of play. Not trying to sound elitist or anything by that. I just find it much too easy to kill people with the boltshot.

And for the record, its super easy to miss your first shot, and charge up the second shot and still get the kill. I do it all the time.

My suggestion: Ban it from loadouts, make it a power weapon. Hell, boost its single shot capability too if you’re gonna do this.

Nerf it so that it CAN’T kill in one shot to a fully shielded spartan. The most it will do is remove shields. So if you want to get a CQC kill with it, you gotta pair it with a melee. It’d be similar to a plasma pistol or mauler.

Boltshot in Halo 4 = Sawed-Off in Gears of war
If they dont change it in TU coming January than most likely they wont nerf it or change it at all

I have absolutely no issue with it. Personally, it has become my favorite sidearm. Next to the Needler, the Boltshot is also my favorite ambush weapon.

for real they need to nerf it or ban it bc i dont think ur loadout side arm should be able to one shot somebody -_- gets annoying and people who crouch with camo and wait for u with it makes me want the gun banned even more… gun=no skill at all

Like I told someone before, out of my 2600 deaths in Slayer only 0.008% of them have been due to the Boltshot, plus I don’t even use it, the automatics are much better at CQC.

I think the Boltshot is one-shot kill because otherwise noone would use it.If it would only remove the shields everyone would choose the Plasma Pistol instead because of it’s longer range and tracking capability.I think the overcharge/reaload glitch was the only problem with the boltshot, but now it’s patched.
Also unless it’s overcharged the Bolsthot is a pea-shooter, it would take me almost two clips to kill an enemy.

> Boltshot in Halo 4 = Sawed-Off in Gears of war

Exactly. And look what happened to that community.

Now I do not feel the boltshot is nearly as bad as the sawed-off was but it’s still bad.

Also, it’s not that it is that overpowered, it’s that is cheap and just straight up lame. If an enemy out plays me with a rifle, sniper, or whatever I don’t care. But, when you’re hiding around a corner with a boltshot, that’s the kind of thing that ruins multiplayer.

Agreed with OP, do something about it. My suggestion: reduce the range and reduce the time you can hold the charge without firing.

I dont use boltshot but think its just fine. I always use pistol and win against boltshot all the time. You really have to surprise someone with boltshot for it to be effective or be playing against inexperiened players. I would think most players who dislike it are the ones who rush get killed by someone holding a pisition with boltshot rush again get killed again by same person and keep rage rushing bexause they are angry and wont chsnge their tactics. Oh and dude you could duel weild the mauler with something else and it had a higher rate of fire. It was mean, there just werent many people who used it.

The boltshot itself is fine, but it has no place in loadouts.

So you got killed by the boltshot, is what you’re telling us…

Of the 3884 times I have died in matchmaking, 13 have been by the Boltshot. That is .3% of all my deaths. I easily include myself as a casual player and don’t see a problem in the slightest.

Of your 3428 deaths, 71 have come by the Boltshot, which is good for a whopping 2%. With your high number of Boltshot kills and melees, all that tells me you prefer CQC more than most. I honestly think, it’s an adapt your tactics kind of thing.

The Mauler+Melee combo of H3 was probably easier since you didn’t have to charge it.

i have been one of those people who have been saying “out of my XXXX deaths ive only been killed XX times by the boltshot” and it has stayed that way right from the start.

if i get ambushed by one camo camper in a match they usually dont get to do it a second time because i change up my tactics. and i am by no means a “pro” like player.

i get annoyed by camo campers hiding with CQC weapons just as much as people hiding with snipers, but thinking that they should remove those things from the game is a bit selfish.

if you can change your tactics to make the boltshot less useful, it will force the boltshot users to abandon it or fail.

Take it out of loadouts, put it in drop selection or put it on spawn for some map.

You are the problem here. The boltshot is ruining this game, big time.

> So you got killed by the boltshot, is what you’re telling us…

Thought I made it clear that I want it banned not only because it feels cheap when I get killed by it, but because I roll train with it too. Its so -Yoinking!- easy, you’re losing a battle, you run away, someone is chasing, you charge it up and boom.

You’re one shot after a battle, someone is coming to clean you off, you boltshot them and survive. Gun is super clutch and has saved my life but I acknowledge its OP as hell.

> Of the 3884 times I have died in matchmaking, 13 have been by the Boltshot. That is .3% of all my deaths. I easily include myself as a casual player and don’t see a problem in the slightest.
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> Of your 3428 deaths, 71 have come by the Boltshot, which is good for a whopping 2%. With your high number of Boltshot kills and melees, all that tells me you prefer CQC more than most. I honestly think, it’s an adapt your tactics kind of thing.
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> The Mauler+Melee combo of H3 was probably easier since you didn’t have to charge it.

I put the Boltshot in my loadout because it is by FAR the most powerful sidearm in the game.

Plasma pistol is only good for shield stripping and EMP. And I would only use the human pistol if I ran out of ammo/needed to reload midfight.

Boltshot is like carrying a shotgun in your backpocket at all times. If I didn’t have it in all my loadouts (except for BTB) I wouldn’t be as combat capable as everyone else.

I definitely don’t prefer CQC. If you checked my stats most my kills are with the DMR, BR, and sniper.

I get that in the grand scheme of things its not that big of a deal as far as being game breaking. It’s just SUPER cheap and annoying. Not a fun gun to deal with.

Others have said it. You get out rifled by someone, fine, they deserve that. You get sniped or shotgunned. Fine, they earned that drop (not really since its all random, but you get my point) Someone kills you with the boltshot? They picked it in their loadout and are now king of CQC.

> You are the problem here. The boltshot is ruining this game, big time.

how is it ruining the game? in 275 slayer games ive only died 22 time. thats barely enough times to ruin one play session for me.

You must be talking about what I call the Oddball Carrier Neutralizer. I personally don’t have a problem with the Boltshot. I’ll play with it in situations where it is useful and enjoy it while it lasts.

> If I didn’t have it in all my loadouts (except for BTB) I wouldn’t be as combat capable as everyone else.

i have a whopping zero kills with the boltshot, and my K/D is not far behind your. i own boltshot user with my AR all the time, so no its not “use it or get left behind”.

I don’t think it would be reasonable to BAN it from load outs, a major change is necessary.

I think the biggest issue with the boltshot is that it will kill you full shielded, if you are damaged, or no shields, I don’t see a problem with that. Fully shielded though? Its very, very broken.

I would be alright if it stripped a fully shielded persons shields down, its still different enough to not quite be a plasma pistol, and you till have time to land that headshot with it, if you have 4/3 shots left. A slight increase to the damage of the regular bolts might help as well.

Go look at your stats right now and tell me how many times the Boltshot has actually killed you. Post your total deaths and Boltshot deaths. I bet just like everyone else you have not died to it nearly enough to warrant the crying and whining you are doing right now. Stop complaining and play better. I’m dead serious.