Odd, that’s only happened to me once in the last six months that I’ve been playing BTB…might just be the overall level of people you’re playing with.
If I might suggest; try fighting on the ground and with normal weapons instead of power ones, then waiting for the suckers who grab them to get pod’d by the enemy and pick it up off their corpse? Thats what I usually do.
I had some idiot teammate kill me with a hydra last night after a got a nice turn around no scope on someone. The only downside I see would be launching people with objective items across the map.
I can’t even get games in btb lol but the last game I played some level 1 teammate thought it was a good idea to snipe my wasp while I was 2 kills off of a naire and 4 off an unfrig
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> I had some idiot teammate kill me with a hydra last night after a got a nice turn around no scope on someone. The only downside I see would be launching people with objective items across the map.
Actually Im fairly certain thats why they turned it ON because if I remember right there was an exploit on the (now vanished) original version of the map Anti-Freeze where you could boost someone out of the map and let them demolish with the Binary.
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> Actually Im fairly certain thats why they turned it ON because if I remember right there was an exploit on the (now vanished) original version of the map Anti-Freeze where you could boost someone out of the map and let them demolish with the Binary.
Is that how they did it? I remember being able to get out the map through spots on the wall that didn’t have a barrier. They must’ve patched that map like 3 different times and every time people still found ways out of the map, lol.
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Yeah, why do you think the new versions gone from MP? Most of these Forged maps are broken in some way or another.
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> Why would you remove team killing from warzone but not from BTB?? Both playlists are equally as chaotic.
That’s actually a good question. I’d like to know the answer.
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> Actually Im fairly certain thats why they turned it ON because if I remember right there was an exploit on the (now vanished) original version of the map Anti-Freeze where you could boost someone out of the map and let them demolish with the Binary.
Seriously? They altered a fundamental aspect of BTB’s gameplay, just because one map had an exploit? Antifreeze should have been a 4v4 map anyway.
Competitive players love friendly fire because it makes the game harder to play well. Funny how those players say they get nothing that they want from Halo 5 when from my perspective it seems like all kinds of bad decisions are made in an attempt to appease them. This would be one of those decisions.
And how exactly is it that turning on friendly fire is a counter to the Anitfreeze escapees?
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> I been playing some BTB today and never got betrayed once. It’s not that frequent.
Obviously you’re not good enough or pick up enough power weapons to become a target for these noobs who want to wreck everybody’s fun. It happens to me every single game at least once.
Just recently I played a game on Fracture and got the mantis before some guy from first spawn, as I’m jumping into the mantis he pumps two full clips of AR and two grenades into the mantis until it was smoking then runs off and commits suicide off a cliff. What the -Yoink-? Then the entire game turns into a bloodbath. I managed to (somehow with a damaged mantis) get a 15 kill streak and I was literally the only reason the enemy wasn’t spawn killing us because the rest of the team was garbage, and guess what AR noob goes and does? PLASMA PISTOLS ME 3 TIMES UNTIL I GET KILLED BY THE ENEMY GHOST.
We then got spawn killed over and over and over and over and over by the enemy mantis and ghost and literally half my team quit including the noob.
**He single handedly ruined the game and then has the guts to quit?? What kind of world are we living in.**Don’t say dumb things like “it’s not that frequent herp derp” because it is, and everybody knows it is your comment is not helpful. You can’t play one game of BTB and say “nah didn’t happen to me so you’re wrong lolz”.
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> then waiting for the suckers who grab them to get pod’d by the enemy and pick it up off their corpse? Thats what I usually do.
Have tried this and know what happens? The noob that just got killed comes back for his weapon, sees I’ve picked it up then harasses me until I give it back to him. Then I spend half the game trying to avoid his attempts at betraying. It’s ridiculous.
Also why should I change my play style and risk letting the enemy team get our vehicles simply to avoid having my teammates betray me? Have you ever played a match where the enemy has two Banshees? Have you ever played a match where the enemy has two mantis’s? Let me tell you, they, are, not, fun. Everybody quits.
What would be your solution to getting betrayed just before I cap a flag? Should I just not go for the flag? Should I focus on kills? Should I just focus on kills with my AR and avoid all vehicles and power weapons? Maybe I should spend the entire game doing laps with the mongoose? So many questions…
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> > then waiting for the suckers who grab them to get pod’d by the enemy and pick it up off their corpse? Thats what I usually do.
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> Have tried this and know what happens? The noob that just got killed comes back for his weapon, sees I’ve picked it up then harasses me until I give it back to him. Then I spend half the game trying to avoid his attempts at betraying. It’s ridiculous.
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> Also why should I change my play style and risk letting the enemy team get our vehicles simply to avoid having my teammates betray me? Have you ever played a match where the enemy has two Banshees? Have you ever played a match where the enemy has two mantis’s? Let me tell you, they, are, not, fun. Everybody quits.
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> What would be your solution to getting betrayed just before I cap a flag? Should I just not go for the flag? Should I focus on kills? Should I just focus on kills with my AR and avoid all vehicles and power weapons? Maybe I should spend the entire game doing laps with the mongoose? So many questions…
Actually you just answered it yourself for the most part. Non-solo queuing might also be a helpful thing.
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> Seriously? They altered a fundamental aspect of BTB’s gameplay, just because one map had an exploit? Antifreeze should have been a 4v4 map anyway.
Thats what I heard. Im fairly certain it wasn’t on when the game mode first came out, anyway.
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> And how exactly is it that turning on friendly fire is a counter to the Anitfreeze escapees?
People were using the Ghost on the map to launch a teammate with the Binary up out of the map. Making friendly fire on meant you couldnt do that anymore. Someone found out how to do it of course, but with friendly fire turned off it started happening that allies of the cheater were shooting them and getting them back down.
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> > > then waiting for the suckers who grab them to get pod’d by the enemy and pick it up off their corpse? Thats what I usually do.
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> > What would be your solution to getting betrayed just before I cap a flag? Should I just not go for the flag? Should I focus on kills? Should I just focus on kills with my AR and avoid all vehicles and power weapons? Maybe I should spend the entire game doing laps with the mongoose? So many questions…
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> Actually you just answered it yourself for the most part. Non-solo queuing might also be a helpful thing.
yeah no thats just stupid. if you think my facetious comments are actually viable options then that would explain the difference between our kd’s.
also unless u search solo u cant find games in btb due to the mmr system obviously you dont play the gametype ever.
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theres a thing called invisible barriers and soft kill barriers. takes 5 minutes in forge. the solution is to design better maps not change the gametype to gamebreaking levels.
Oh God no don’t take it out. I love team killing (when playing with friend and you guys are screwing around) I love halo because of that. Teammates tries to teamkill you run away they give up after a while. I just ring around the Rosey with them that usually works lol
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> > I been playing some BTB today and never got betrayed once. It’s not that frequent.
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> Obviously you’re not good enough or pick up enough power weapons to become a target for these noobs who want to wreck everybody’s fun. It happens to me every single game at least once.
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> Just recently I played a game on Fracture and got the mantis before some guy from first spawn, as I’m jumping into the mantis he pumps two full clips of AR and two grenades into the mantis until it was smoking then runs off and commits suicide off a cliff. What the -Yoink-? Then the entire game turns into a bloodbath. I managed to (somehow with a damaged mantis) get a 15 kill streak and I was literally the only reason the enemy wasn’t spawn killing us because the rest of the team was garbage, and guess what AR noob goes and does? PLASMA PISTOLS ME 3 TIMES UNTIL I GET KILLED BY THE ENEMY GHOST.
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> **He single handedly ruined the game and then has the guts to quit?? What kind of world are we living in.**Don’t say dumb things like “it’s not that frequent herp derp” because it is, and everybody knows it is your comment is not helpful. You can’t play one game of BTB and say “nah didn’t happen to me so you’re wrong lolz”.
It’s not really based off being good they do it to anyone really. Just outplay them the people who team kill are usually little kids who are bad at the game some fancy moves and they can’t touch you. In my experience at least they give up after a while
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> > Just recently I played a game on Fracture and got the mantis before some guy from first spawn, as I’m jumping into the mantis he pumps two full clips of AR and two grenades into the mantis until it was smoking then runs off and commits suicide off a cliff. What the -Yoink-? Then the entire game turns into a bloodbath. I managed to (somehow with a damaged mantis) get a 15 kill streak and I was literally the only reason the enemy wasn’t spawn killing us because the rest of the team was garbage, and guess what AR noob goes and does? PLASMA PISTOLS ME 3 TIMES UNTIL I GET KILLED BY THE ENEMY GHOST.
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> It’s not really based off being good they do it to anyone really. Just outplay them the people who team kill are usually little kids who are bad at the game some fancy moves and they can’t touch you. In my experience at least they give up after a while
When you’re holding the flag you can’t do any fancy moves. When you’re piloting a mantis you can’t do any fancy moves. When you’re flying a banshee, you can do SOME fancy moves but still can’t avoid their snipes or AR shots they pot at you to annoy you and keep your shields from recharging so that the enemy’s task of killing you is easier.
The solution isn’t to outmanoeuvre them and take my attention off the main game.
The solution is to remove team killing in BTB and it will solve all problems.
If somehow this causes people to find map exploits, then slap a hard kill barrier around the entire map it takes less than 5 minutes.