As the title!
You can no longer play the matchmarking without the use noob weapon overpowered and unbalanced.
Remove it or at least fix it, it’s really frustrating!
Thanks
im forced to use that weapon for the simple fact that everybody else does… on a side note, it is funny when someone lays a whole clip of AR into you and you kill them at the last second with it lol
I would suggest a slight nerf. Take the Mauler for example. Even at melee range, it still didn’t instant kill. I think the boltshot should follow suit. It can keep the range, due to the fact that has to charge and can’t be duel-wielded, but it can not instantly kill a fully shielded Spartan under any circumstance. It would however, damage enough that a follow-up melee would kill.
Funny.
I’ve played plenty of games where people don’t use it.
They use the BR, they use the DMR, they use the LR, they use the Carbine, they use the Magnum, they use the Plasma Pistol, they use the AR, they use the Supressor, they use the Storm Ri-scratch that.
Nobody uses the Storm Rifle.
Even then, it’s painfully funny to watch people try and Boltshot me and miss after I take a corner wide and/or jumping.
> I would suggest a slight nerf. Take the Mauler for example. Even at melee range, it still didn’t instant kill. I think the boltshot should follow suit. It can keep the range, due to the fact that has to charge and can’t be duel-wielded, but it can not instantly kill a fully shielded Spartan under any circumstance. It would however, damage enough that a follow-up melee would kill.
Mauler couldn’t OSK because it was designed to be a D/Wing Shotgun.
If the Boltshot can’t even strip shields completely and has more restrictions placed on it than the PP which can, at range, then the Boltshot is useless. Even if the Boltshot could strip shields the versatility and range on the PP would still make it a superior choice.
The seemingly most popular argument is that the Boltshot needs a range reduction but I’m still with the “Why?” It has a laundry list of cons with the weapon. Why does the Boltshot need a nerf? Because it’s used a lot? Because it has a longer range than the Shotgun/Scattershot? Because of anecdotal evidence of goods trashing bads with it?
Boltshot is okay as it is. It takes a lot more time to shot and cooldown than a Shotgun and contains much less ammo.
They just need to weaken it’s altfire or reduce it’s Range, it also needs a Primary fire buff so its equal to the Magnum.
> They just need to weaken it’s altfire or reduce it’s Range, it also needs a Primary fire buff so its equal to the Magnum.
I would like the range nerf, however there is no reason to make its main mode that strong. Maybe half as strong will be fine.
I like the range nerf. Also the mauler was a one shot then melee follow up kill if I recall correctly. Then again it is hard to compare them because H4 is class based.
the highlighted is wrong.
if you make it so that he over charge only take shields, it wuld still be a 2 hit gun. the plasma pistol can strip shield, yes but it takes 3 overcharged hits to kill someone after their shields are down. so it would MORE lethal in that respect. and dont forget that the BS can get headshots and the PP cannot. more lethal that way too.,
all i ask is make it so that the overcharge blast that is shot gun like be just a shield -Yoink!-. then you have to do something else to kill them. be that melee, headshot from the BS itself oor switch to anther gun to finish them off.
if i had my way, i would make the Magnum a 5 hit kill again, the PP kill in 7 hit, not 11 and make the BS kill in 7(so you dont have to reload to kill someone) semiauto shots, or 2 shotgun blasts. This way they all have there roles as usefull side arms.
the Magnum, with it 2x scope, would be the long range precision it is suppose to be. the PP would still be the vehicale killer but would useful in kill people too. and the BS would still rule the short. bam all is well.
this with a dmr nerf, would make it a fun game where it would be a perfrance thing and not a “oh i have to us this or i get demolished” thing.
> Mauler couldn’t OSK because it was designed to be a D/Wing Shotgun.
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> If the Boltshot can’t even strip shields completely and has more restrictions placed on it than the PP which can, at range, then <mark>the Boltshot is useless.</mark> Even if the Boltshot could strip shields the versatility and range on the PP would still make it a superior choice.
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> The seemingly most popular argument is that the Boltshot needs a range reduction but I’m still with the “Why?” It has a laundry list of cons with the weapon. Why does the Boltshot need a nerf? Because it’s used a lot? Because it has a longer range than the Shotgun/Scattershot? Because of anecdotal evidence of goods trashing bads with it?
> Boltshot is okay as it is. It takes a lot more time to shot and cooldown than a Shotgun and contains much less ammo.
Less ammo? Almost good point except every player seems to start with it on small maps, so you essentially have infinite ammo if you keep killing, you never have to stop unless some one stops you with a sticky nade. Lets face it, if you are host… Only a sticky nade can stop your spree
When I recorded this, I had less than 200 kills with boltshot. I still have less than 400 kills with it. So I haven’t mastered it in commendations. Yet using this thing is simple as pie. I would master it… But it feels so dirty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCUD83IBbtc
Even with the waypoint above my head… People have trouble fighting against boltshot. Best counter to it seems to be sticky nades.
I agree with OP. Boltshot is way overpowered.
I prefer PP, myself, but I alway use BS because it is clearly the best 2ndary weapon. Heck, in skilled hands, it’s better than many of the primary weapons. Specifically, the AR, Storm Rifle, and Suppressor.
In practice, it beats shotty and scatty more often than it should.
Due to the range and power of this weapon, I hesitate to swap it for the scattershot - a POWER weapon designed to fill the same niche. I almost never swap it for Needler, another POWER weapon.
All that being said, I think that it is a great weapon! It requires skill to use effectively and it has its share of drawbacks. I’m glad it’s in the game, but it is too prevalent. It keeps me from enjoying other weapons that simply aren’t as effective.
Two solutions:
(*) If it is to remain a starting weapon, the range or the power needs to be nerfed.
(*) Keep as is, but not a starting weapon. My preference.
I agree its OP.
343 hurry the bloody hell up and fix this obvious broken mess. Im sick of it ruining the game and im sick of all the threads about it.
If the boltshot didn’t have the overcharge, it would pretty much be useless. Still, I don’t like having to worry about whether or not the enemy is spawning with close-to shotguns.
All this talk of nerfing it is silly. Just remove it as a starting weapon. It’s a well balanced gun when you don’t get it right off spawn
I played a game of CTF on Simplex where no one used DMRs or Boltshots… It was beautiful, Halo 4 at it’s finest.
Then the next gam, a bunch of new players joined, and needless to say, there were patches of blue on the radar and I could only survive every fightfire by keeping at mid-range.
Nerf or remove the Boltshot, and you will see more players in this game, until then I’m in SWAT.
less range + less power + less accurate = better boltshot
> They just need to weaken it’s altfire or reduce it’s Range, it also needs a Primary fire buff so its equal to the Magnum.
You could say the same thing about the Plasma pistol. In Reach, the plasma pistol was badass. If I ran across a guy and happened to have the plasma pistol out I didn’t feel naked. Sometimes you’d even win the shootout! But in Halo 4, the plasma pistol is just useless outside of EMPing. And the drain is horrendous! Compared to the towering negatives of the plasma pistol, the Boltshot is a perfectly balanced sidearm. If you use it, you have a shot being to survive that 1v1 battle. That’s almost never true of the plasma pistol. (Though I did figure out that you can noob combo using the light rifle for easier than just about any other weapon.) How about we focus on the plasma pistol and getting both a buff to its power AND a decrease in the percentage used per shot when firing the primary. To kill a guy takes like 12-15% of the battery. NUTS.
> Funny.
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> I’ve played plenty of games where people don’t use it.
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> They use the BR, they use the DMR, they use the LR, they use the Carbine, they use the Magnum, they use the Plasma Pistol, they use the AR, they use the Supressor, they use the Storm Ri-scratch that.
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> Nobody uses the Storm Rifle.
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> Even then, it’s painfully funny to watch people try and Boltshot me and miss after I take a corner wide and/or jumping.
I love the storm rifle, no reload.
How about instead of running up to people that you see with a giant orange oval in front of them you just shoot them?
That’s why the BS isn’t “BS”-it’s another tactic of taking advantage of a noobish mistake: running in for the melee.