Remove Achillies from Spartan Companies

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.

Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.

So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, an achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.

That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !

The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.

Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument. And please be respectful with the people you disagree with, an opinion is just that, nothing personal.

Edit: Wasn’t expecting hostility, I created this thread to find a way to help a part of the community, I, myself don’t really care about being spawn trapped, but MANY others do.
I was hoping for a constructive and respectful debate, I don’t mind if my “idea” is disregarded, as long as we can find a way to “help” those who get the short end of the stick, even if just a little, while, not harming others in the process.

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> I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
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> Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
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> So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
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> That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
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> The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
>
> Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.

That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.

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> > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> >
> > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> >
> > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> >
> > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> >
> > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> >
> > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
>
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> That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.

true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something

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> > > 2533274852512751;1:
> > > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> > >
> > > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> > >
> > > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> > >
> > > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> > >
> > > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> > >
> > > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
> >
> >
> > That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.
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> true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something

Exactly. They should come up with an actual solution instead of punishing people.

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<mark>Do not make nonconstructive posts.</mark>

Farmzone? What about Borezone instead

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> > > > 2533274852512751;1:
> > > > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> > > >
> > > > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> > > >
> > > > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> > > >
> > > > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> > > >
> > > > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> > > >
> > > > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
> > >
> > >
> > > That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.
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> >
> > true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something
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> Exactly. They should come up with an actual solution instead of punishing people.

I say the best solution would be to match based on party sizes for Warzone. If you go in with a full party of 12 then you should only match against other parties of 12. This would cause these “Farming Companies” to have to fight each other more often and it would balance the match.

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> > > > > 2533274852512751;1:
> > > > > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> > > > >
> > > > > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> > > > >
> > > > > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.
> > >
> > >
> > > true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something
> >
> >
> > Exactly. They should come up with an actual solution instead of punishing people.
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> I say the best solution would be to match based on party sizes for Warzone. If you go in with a full party of 12 then you should only match against other parties of 12. This would cause these “Farming Companies” to have to fight each other more often and it would balance the match.

This is a really good idea. I agree.

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> > > > > 2533274852512751;1:
> > > > > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> > > > >
> > > > > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> > > > >
> > > > > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.
> > >
> > >
> > > true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something
> >
> >
> > Exactly. They should come up with an actual solution instead of punishing people.
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> I say the best solution would be to match based on party sizes for Warzone. If you go in with a full party of 12 then you should only match against other parties of 12. This would cause these “Farming Companies” to have to fight each other more often and it would balance the match.

It wouldn’t totally fix the problem. Some of these companies are just really good. I played couple games with my company in a 12 men fireteam against another 12 men fireteam and we lost, by a lot, but that was before Achilles. They could have farm us, but there was no incentive to farm at this time. I’d have to say matching party is not the solution.

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> > > > > > 2533274852512751;1:
> > > > > > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > true what they need to do though is fix the farming problem like a submission zone or something
> > >
> > >
> > > Exactly. They should come up with an actual solution instead of punishing people.
> >
> >
> > I say the best solution would be to match based on party sizes for Warzone. If you go in with a full party of 12 then you should only match against other parties of 12. This would cause these “Farming Companies” to have to fight each other more often and it would balance the match.
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> This is a really good idea. I agree.

Very good indeed, glad to see something come out of this thread, though I suppose this has already been said elsewhere, but still.

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Achilles should be awarded for Assist Mastery, a collectively earned achievement, if it is for companies anyway.

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I’m pretty sure the system looks to match a large party with a large party first, but when they results in a poor quality or is taking a while to find it opens it up to match them with smaller groups to get a game going.

Warzone ends between 15-20 minutes most of the time, that means people are only searching 3-4 times an hour. So that means each time you search between 74% - 85% of the playlist population is already in a game, some of them will be JiP, but most wont.

343i wont change the system because it will then take much longer to find matches if your playing with a group of friends.

I hate to be blunt, well, not really, but this is how team games work, you go in solo your not going to do as well, I don’t see farming as much of an issue as most of the people on here, and I think that’s because the people who experience it a lot complaint the most, people who don’t care do not come here to post that they don’t care, I have been spawn trapped, yesterday I played a game where we got spawn trapped pretty early, but myself and 1 other person were enough to break it and we wont the game.

If anything this is simply showing us that people need to stop being random’s and start making friends to group up with, play a team game with a team, then this wouldn’t be an issue.

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> I’m pretty sure the system looks to match a large party with a large party first, but when they results in a poor quality or is taking a while to find it opens it up to match them with smaller groups to get a game going.
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> Warzone ends between 15-20 minutes most of the time, that means people are only searching 3-4 times an hour. So that means each time you search between 74% - 85% of the playlist population is already in a game, some of them will be JiP, but most wont.
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> 343i wont change the system because it will then take much longer to find matches if your playing with a group of friends.
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> I hate to be blunt, well, not really, but this is how team games work, you go in solo your not going to do as well, I don’t see farming as much of an issue as most of the people on here, and I think that’s because the people who experience it a lot complaint the most, people who don’t care do not come here to post that they don’t care, I have been spawn trapped, yesterday I played a game where we got spawn trapped pretty early, but myself and 1 other person were enough to break it and we wont the game.
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> If anything this is simply showing us that people need to stop being random’s and start making friends to group up with, play a team game with a team, then this wouldn’t be an issue.

I believe you are right with the matching system. 343i was aiming for less time spent in the lobby waiting for a game instead of waiting for a perfectly matched set of teams. The same is with arena and the ranking system, after so long it widens the search parameters to try and start a game sooner, thus increasing the chance for an uneven match. I play solo, im well aware every game that I could get farmed, core destroyed or dominate a match depending on the teams.

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Though the requirements are ridiculously high for an “ultra rare”… Leave it as it is.

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Who cares if they are farming, it’s hard to get so whatever works then do it.

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dont remove it from spartan companies…suck it up buttercup because that would be a HUGE F U to spartan companies

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> dont remove it from spartan companies…suck it up buttercup because that would be a HUGE F U to spartan companies

Agreed! Everyone was mad that there wasn’t an armor to unlock by skill, now there is one that requires a lot of skill ands teamwork and it’s too much work. I wish they had more armor to unlock that way. I like getting armor through reqs, but hey aren’t the same without earning them.

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> > dont remove it from spartan companies…suck it up buttercup because that would be a HUGE F U to spartan companies
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> Agreed! Everyone was mad that there wasn’t an armor to unlock by skill, now there is one that requires a lot of skill ands teamwork and it’s too much work. I wish they had more armor to unlock that way. I like getting armor through reqs, but hey aren’t the same without earning them.

yea seriously…i feel that people wouldnt of complained about it if it weren’t for the REQ system

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> > I’ve been seeing A LOT more thread about “farmzone” (and get farmed myself) since the last update, I’m not saying farming kills in warzone, refusing to end the game, only exists because of Achillies, it doesn’t. What I’m saying is, that terrible practice has become MUCH more common since.
> >
> > Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of companies really deserve the armor, and have put a lot of efforts towards it, but there are just as much and even more companies that rather play farmzone than earn it.
> >
> > So, I think the set should be removed from Spartan companies and put in the REQ system, or even better, a campaign achievement like Helioskrill, those who already have it can keep it. And for the players that had put a lot of efforts for it, every player that contributed to Companies Commendations should receive an exclusive emblem for each Commendation “level” they had contributed to.
> >
> > That way, farmzone population should decrease significantly, and everyone that worked for Achillies but did not get it, still have something to show for it !
> >
> > The other thing we could do to help the farmed players, is lower/remove the ban hammer from warzone, but that’s for another topic.
> >
> > Now, this just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs, so feel free to disagree with me, but please no “git gud/get a team” (ridiculous) argument.
>
>
> That would be the biggest “F you” to spartan companies. Ever. Of all time. I’m in a spartan company that’s about to get Achilles (armor), and we’re actually against spawn farming. The majority shouldn’t suffer for the actions of a few.

It wasn’t my fault. Someone put a wall there.

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This is the single worst idea on the forums I have read yet. This would screw over everyone who has put WEEKS into this game since the Achilles armor commendations came out. Just because there is more farming doesn’t men 343 should eliminate one of the only skill based unlocks entirely. The REQ system essentially awards people with the fattest wallets who don’t care to grind out the packs. They should keep it as it is, and people just need to deal with the farming, or get a team of your own to prevent them from spawn trapping you. Warzone is a team based gamemods, play with a team

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I think it would help if 343 just gave more incentive for players to destroy the core and end the game sooner. Rather than reward less XP and REQ points for shorter matches, grant huge bonuses fot the teams that pulled quick wins. A team good enough to win a game in three minutes should collect bigger rewards that needs twenty minutes.

Alternatively, create a commendation for destructing the core and reward another exclusive armor set for Spartan Companies that destroyed 100 cores.