Doc D. Said Infinite was going to die and be forgotten without a BR mode and for some reason the hive mind “Halo community” instantly dogged on him and said he had no idea what he was talking about. I just want to talk about how relevant he is and if he has any experience in what he’s saying in regards to Halo.
So DrDisrespect is a popular Twitch streamer who started his career playing Halo 2 MLG and Halo 3 MLG. Eventually around Reach’s launch he decided to move on to streaming COD alongside his usual schedule. After that he began accepting large sponsors and had garnered millions of followers on both Youtube and Twitch. He only came back to Halo because Infinite was looking very promising to the original Halo gameplay that everyone had been looking for since before Reach, DD was seriously going to be streaming Infinite gameplay normally.
And then Infinite flopped and tried giving his 2 cents on how to revive the game and keep the population healthy by adding a battle royale mode like every other popular game, it would be inline with 343 copying every trend in popular games even if it just detracts from the gameplay like sprint or aim down sights.
However the entirety of Halo’s Youtuber pallet with the exception of a few like Mint Blitz attacking him like he has no idea how to build and maintain a fanbase. Its very ironic how a bunch of guys with less than 30k subscribers who’ve been making content for a decade or longer are telling DD what to do, when DD has millions of followers on multiple platforms and has made a career for himself with his online character.
I personally don’t mind the battle royale mode, its not the end of the world and if it brings back revenue and players to help save Infinite then I welcome it. It would be a much better alternative than $20 for 3 pieces of armor and an armor color, with only 5 gamemodes and 5 maps to play on.
Dr Disrespect was actually advocating and banging the Halo Battle Royale drum well before Infinite was released. Many times I watched segments in his streams in which he would lay out his vision for how it could work in Infinite, and he seemed genuinely excited about it.
We’ll have to wait and see how it works, but this new BR could actually be the saving of Halo Infinite if it is implemented correctly.
I always said that Infinite would be fine without a battle royal. So of course I disagreed with his opinion that it NEEDED a BR or it would die. Infinite’s current state isn’t because it doesn’t have a BR. It’s doing bad because it was launched with 4 game types. It DOESN’T need a BR, it needs the rest of the content that it should’ve been released with, like KotH, Assault, Infection, functional Custom Games, Forge and the variants of those games. Infinite has had the least content on release out of all the past titles. I’m fine with a battle royal being added, but it’s not going to be the savior of Halo multiplayer.
The problem with your argument is that it ignores context while also referencing that same context to a lesser extent. It both presents the point and misses the point entirely.
It’s not that the BR itself is the reason Halo isn’t thriving, it’s the lack of content and issues with the core functionality of the game, alongside the slow turnaround of meaningful change that could’ve stymied the atrophy at an earlier point in time.
The idea, functionality, and popularity of the BR is what Dr. D was suggesting (the lack of) would sink Halo, not simply the implementation of such to a dwindling content starved player base eager to eat up any sparse offerings added to the game by a company that can’t seem to figure figure out why the game isn’t doing well.
At this point there’s so little content in the game that the player base will guzzle it down like a shot glass of water after weeks in the content drought desert. BR, limited time event, or otherwise.
People playing Halo were only concerned with 343 trying to create another Warzone instead of fixing their broken game. His point about a BR being anything other than a cheap bandaid solution for Halo was the thing that got him the hate.
Aight there’s a big difference between “not being at its prime” and “flopping”. Infinite did not flop, it lost a lot of its initial playerbase but it’s losing chart is the same as other games. Especially for being FTP. Though I agree it could be better.
I think it’s laughable to suggest that Halo Infinite’s current lack of popularity has anything to do with a lack of BR rather than a lack of almost all staple Halo features, and hardly any maps and cosmetics.
Honestly 343 has fumbled the franchise for so long I’m not even going to suggest Infinite would have been a success with forge, co-op, a proper amount of content, etc on launch, we really don’t know, but it sure as hell would have kept a bigger playerbase with a proper launch no matter what. What WON’T save Halo is BR. Ultimately, BR fans are happy and have been happy playing Pubg, Fortnite, Apex, etc for years now, a half-baked Battle Royale 343 brought another studio in for that supposedly still won’t take the games focus is not going to shift any of those players over to infinite for a serious length of time.
If they had done the rest of the game right it would have set the game apart in the market as well, the only proper Halo game, and it would have had a much better base to launch something like this off of and honestly likely would have been received better by hardcore fans as well. Launching it in the game’s current state will just be another flop.
was dr disrespect not prem banned from twitch in the first place so to call him a popular twitch streamer to somebody that has been prem banned from the platform is not popular at all.
and most part about it.
popular streamers from youtube,twitch or any streamer platform are the worst for any game more.
since there only think about there own that there can win and ruin the game more for others that wane play for fun since there cant take it at all if there lose and only need to win at all.
so if he thinks halo needs a BR then he can dream on more since BR is something we really not need at all and the developers most never listing to the popular streamers at all in the first place.
Certain Affinity is developing a BR, allegedly. He might’ve been right. Right on if it’s a good move to increase playerbase? debatable. Though Microsoft is seemingly taking that approach.
I mean F2P has always been a mistake for AAA games. F2P AAA titles never live or thrive for more than 2 years. They are ALWAYS lesser in quality than fully paid titles, and after launch the devs barely care about the upkeep of the game. There are only a few RARE instances where devs actually worry about the upkeep post-launch.
Honestly I don’t mind if halo gets a BR mode.
Could be interesting to try. A BR that plays like big team on steroids could be pretty fun… Imagine teams of 16 versing it out with 320 players on the campaign map. Add some pve for a warzone 2.0 and that could be pretty fun.
But I think what most people are going to be annoyed about is if they release BR whilst the normal arena halo is in the state it is in.
The base game needs so much more attention before they split resources further on a BR mode.
Worse would be that they get the idea that the BR mode is actually what people want when in reality it’s just that no one wants to play the broken mess that is arena right now.
paying 60 dollars was better to play the multiplayer since you get something good more then this crap we have now for F2P.
look how broken it is a lot off the playerbase are gone since launch.