Remember the words 100% committed to release.

343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.

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> 343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… don’t like it don’t buy the game. If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.

Then prepare yourself for a failure of H5 proportions at launch

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> Then prepare yourself for a failure of H5 proportions at launch

It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.

I don’t understand how 343 has such a big problem with releasing a complete Halo game. It just baffles me.

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> > > 343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… don’t like it don’t buy the game. If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.
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> It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.

It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster

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> It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster

Forge and Co op is not a big deal 3 months is nothing for co op… and how do you know? This games mulitplayer may be jammed with modes and maps…

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> > > > > 343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… don’t like it don’t buy the game. If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.
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> > It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster
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> Forge and Co op is not a big deal 3 months is nothing for co op… and how do you know? This games mulitplayer may be jammed with modes and maps…

Not a big deal to ‘you’. Big deal to the majority of people. Don’t pretend like it isn’t. You’re making assumptions about modes and maps and yet they have revealed barely anything new. Honestly find blind faith in an IP irritating because it means 343i can do whatever and yet some people will defend them and I find that deeply concerning, there is literally no guarantee whatsoever that they won’t drop coop or forge after release.

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> > > > > > 343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… don’t like it don’t buy the game. If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.
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> > > > > Then prepare yourself for a failure of H5 proportions at launch
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> > > > It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.
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> > > It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster
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> > Forge and Co op is not a big deal 3 months is nothing for co op… and how do you know? This games mulitplayer may be jammed with modes and maps…
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> Not a big deal to ‘you’. Big deal to the majority of people. Don’t pretend like it isn’t. You’re making assumptions about modes and maps and yet they have revealed barely anything new. Honestly find blind faith in an IP irritating because it means 343i can do whatever and yet some people will defend them and I find that deeply concerning, there is literally no guarantee whatsoever that they won’t drop coop or forge after release.

Maybe it’s a buggy mess an expansive map could have alot of technical difficulties for co op like where does the player spawn how do checkpoints work etc… and it’s not the majority… just people tend to follow eachother or the negtive media… plus forge is not simple anymore it’s forever expanding… I’m no game developer but things like this take time to get right.

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> > > > > Then prepare yourself for a failure of H5 proportions at launch
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> > > > It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.
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> > > It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster
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> > Forge and Co op is not a big deal 3 months is nothing for co op… and how do you know? This games mulitplayer may be jammed with modes and maps…
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> Not a big deal to ‘you’. Big deal to the majority of people. Don’t pretend like it isn’t. You’re making assumptions about modes and maps and yet they have revealed barely anything new. Honestly find blind faith in an IP irritating because it means 343i can do whatever and yet some people will defend them and I find that deeply concerning, there is literally no guarantee whatsoever that they won’t drop coop or forge after release.

This is not a big deal to a majority of people. Just because there are tons of you posting about it you probably actually account for a significant minority of the people that will actually end up buying and playing it on Day 1. Sorry but it is the truth…Yes there are a lot of people that play Co-Op…but that being said, it probably accounts for less than 10% of anyone playing Halo at the exact same time…The rest are in MP or reg Campaign by themselves.

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> > > > > > > 343 stated they are 100% committed to relase the game this holiday just accept it… and 3 months ain’t long to wait for co op… don’t like it don’t buy the game. If its in a playable state it doesn’t need a delay period.
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> > > > > > Then prepare yourself for a failure of H5 proportions at launch
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> > > > > It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.
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> > > > It did, I honestly quite enjoyed the technical preview, but if this game launchs missing content like H5 did it will be a disaster
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> Maybe it’s a buggy mess an expansive map could have alot of technical difficulties for co op like where does the player spawn how do checkpoints work etc… and it’s not the majority… just people tend to follow eachother or the negtive media… plus forge is not simple anymore it’s forever expanding… I’m no game developer but things like this take time to get right.

Buggy mess maybe…that’s why game needs to be delayed. Also last time I checked just about every social media and a majority of people on these forums are complaining about it and I have very rarely seen anyone defending this so it’s the majority including popular Youtubers that 343i directly follow.

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> > > > > It won’t fail… remember the technical test that was one mode… and it got tons of Praise.
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> This is not a big deal to a majority of people. Just because there are tons of you posting about it you probably actually account for a significant minority of the people that will actually end up buying and playing it on Day 1. Sorry but it is the truth…Yes there are a lot of people that play Co-Op…but that being said, it probably accounts for less than 10% of anyone playing Halo at the exact same time…The rest are in MP or reg Campaign by themselves.

As said before…it is the majority and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Just because many of us will buy day 1 does not mean we’re ok with it and many people are furious with 343i.

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> Buggy mess maybe…that’s why game needs to be delayed. Also last time I checked just about every social media and a majority of people on these forums are complaining about it and I have very rarely seen anyone defending this so it’s the majority including popular Youtubers that 343i directly follow.
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> > This is not a big deal to a majority of people. Just because there are tons of you posting about it you probably actually account for a significant minority of the people that will actually end up buying and playing it on Day 1. Sorry but it is the truth…Yes there are a lot of people that play Co-Op…but that being said, it probably accounts for less than 10% of anyone playing Halo at the exact same time…The rest are in MP or reg Campaign by themselves.
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> As said before…it is the majority and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Just because many of us will buy day 1 does not mean we’re ok with it and many people are furious with 343i.

Leaks are everywhere… and more will come the longer the game takes to come out… like the last of us 2 spoilers imminent. Delaying the game just for two missing features is beyond ridiculous… 3 months is literally nothing. I like co op I usually play with friends but i ain’t fazed … cos they haven’t said its completely scrapped. Co op just takes a lil longer to add to the game. Plus day 1 You get multiplyer that’s free to play and im certain it will have a few maps and game types to keep you busy.

Campaign side of things what I’ve heard you will have alot to do… 3 months Playing solo ain’t no heartache. If it was scrapped completely yeah I see why people are upset but 3 months come on man.

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The game is going to fail because co op and forge are delayed until seasons 2 and 3?

Lol Whatever you say man. Talk about an overreaction.

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> Lol Whatever you say man. Talk about an overreaction.

Halo 5 was absolutely hurt by no forge at launch. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Right, and the appropriate response is to ignore that and advocate for a mutiplayer release this fall and a full-game release sometime next year.

343 Stated A 100% Full Release

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> Halo 5 was absolutely hurt by no forge at launch. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

The lack of forge is not the only thing, not by a long shot.

Halo 5 launched with a lack of playlists in arena and social (no infection). It released without BTB which is a game mode that has been in halo since combat evolved. It allowed for vehicle gameplay which was just absent at launch. It had warzone introduced which was basically a pay to win model that not many people really agreed with and still did not offer anything like a true BTB. It had a misleading campaign that lead to disappointment for many.

On top of this, it had a bad customization system and armors and helmets were unlocked via packs randomly. This meant nothing to give you a goal to work towards. The art style of the game had already split the halo community alone in half. There was a lack of interesting maps and they made it worse by having revisions of maps (empire, Eden). Lastly, what I see is the most important thing, is that the core gameplay experience, did not cater to the whole community, but rather alienated many. I stuck around with halo 5 because I like the core gameplay but many did not and is often seen as too sweaty even for casual. These reasons are by far the main reasons halo 5 launch failed. Forge would not have fixed these issues.

There are still unknowns about infinite and if they decide not to delay, we need to at least ensure that there will be sufficient maps and playlists in arena/social and BTB. Also, most importantly, we need to work with them to ensure core gameplay is as best as it can be for infinite.

Yeah personally I’d rather it launch then wait. Covid-19 has been tough to develop through clearly, I’m just glad they seem focused on quality and getting the core game out this year.

These features will be better for having more time and focus, and the game being delayed again I think would be more damaging than evolution post launch in the somewhat sort term.

Maybe with a few extra months they can flesh out co-op in a way that’ll make it worth the wait. Forge I’m sure will be an amazing tool set.

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Because this isn’t 2005 and games are constantly getting bigger and more complex to make