Title is self-explanatory. The entire Legislative Assembly and the Committee of Minds is a plot device that I find myself often wondering about. Maybe Halo: Infinite could reintroduce then in some way? They simply disappeared after Reach. What’s even more disappointing is that they were not some useless, filler organization but an actual, well-informed group that had the potential to severely impact the entire Halo universe.
They were basically retconned out by 343i. They said something along the lines of ‘these sources can’t be trusted or verified’ which is basically saying “they’re no longer canon” but in a way where the fans won’t fully raise their pitchforks and torches.
Frankly the entire concept was a brilliant idea to show the power of AI and how they operate together without humans, but like everything else 343i screwed it up once they took over.
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> They were basically retconned out by 343i. They said something along the lines of ‘these sources can’t be trusted or verified’ which is basically saying “they’re no longer canon” but in a way where the fans won’t fully raise their pitchforks and torches.
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> Frankly the entire concept was a brilliant idea to show the power of AI and how they operate together without humans, but like everything else 343i screwed it up once they took over.
can I get a source on that? I had no idea this happened. Man, that really sucks. They had a lot of potential.
It’s in one of the old Catalog posts.
Feel free to search through them.
I love the Assembly. In my mind they’re still canon. In most science fiction works that involve Artificial Intelligence, the AI don’t care about humans and either try to kill them or use them until they are no longer deemed necessary. With the Assembly, they are a legislative group of AI who’s sole purpose is to safeguard Humanity. AI’s decided on their own they need to protect Humanity, humans didn’t tell them to do that and I think that’s a great new take on what AI’s can become. Also them being indirectly responsible for the Human-Covenant War is pretty ironic. If 343i were to bring them back now would be the time since Cortana and her Created seem to now be the dominant force in the galaxy. We could see the Assembly being ripped apart from AI wanting to join Cortana to others wanting to uphold their duty to shepard Humanity.
What a shame they decided to throw away a concept like that. To just retcon it with a single phrase; “the reliability of this information has been contested.” I’m aware that anything in any universe could be from different perspectives, have in-universe falsified info, etc. But seriously? It doesn’t make sense that someone would just be making these up, and since they’re in civilian restricted areas we can tell they are of importance. What would the motive be of the person who made these to push fiction? What’s obvious is they weren’t aware of this or didn’t care about these data pads’ existence during Halo 4, and that post was just a cover up.
But who knows? Maybe they’ll show up in Halo Infinite to fight Cortana (or in Infinite’s equivalent of data pads), since they seem to be less interventional and more indirect in governing humans (at least the Majority does).
343i has been pretty obvious with their attempt to wrap up or otherwise throw away nearly everything Bungie added to the universe, especially near the end.
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> 343i has been pretty obvious with their attempt to wrap up or otherwise throw away nearly everything Bungie added to the universe, especially near the end.
I can’t agree with you entirely, because I actually like several things that 343 has done. But in this situation I am 100% in agreement. I’m not totally sure on the timeline of events, but from what I can tell, it seems that 343 put a fair bit of effort into discounting the Assembly prior to H5’s story hitting the shelves. I’d imagine it would be problematic for 343 to have a dangling loose end like the Assembly amid a Created Uprising. So it made sense from their perspective to axe the whole idea before it got out of hand.
It reminds me of what Marvel did with Infinity War. There were several different ways that the various MCU heroes could have defeated Thanos (Ant Man’s superpower being the weirdest option lol). But Marvel discounted all of these potential theories with Dr Strange essentially saying something along the lines of “there are 14 million possibilities, but only one reality where we win”. They got to tell their story while ignoring any plotholes or loose ends. Any time a fan suggests an alternative ending, that alternative ending gets shoved into one of the 14 million scenarios that failed.
On a much smaller scale, anyone who suggests the Assembly can beat Cortana before she even gets started, is shut down by the simple explanation that the Assembly may never have existed at all.
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> I love the Assembly. In my mind they’re still canon. In most science fiction works that involve Artificial Intelligence, the AI don’t care about humans and either try to kill them or use them until they are no longer deemed necessary. With the Assembly, they are a legislative group of AI who’s sole purpose is to safeguard Humanity. AI’s decided on their own they need to protect Humanity, humans didn’t tell them to do that and I think that’s a great new take on what AI’s can become. Also them being indirectly responsible for the Human-Covenant War is pretty ironic. If 343i were to bring them back now would be the time since Cortana and her Created seem to now be the dominant force in the galaxy. We could see the Assembly being ripped apart from AI wanting to join Cortana to others wanting to uphold their duty to shepard Humanity.
What they COULD was keep the Assembly alive and make them the “antagonists” or maybe “pseudo antagonists” of H5 if they were hell-bent on going through the “machine takes over the galaxy” route. It could have preserved the character of Cortana AND they could have fleshed out the lore. Maybe the Assembly is not even bad, they are misguided and they feel that they are trying to save humanity and this act of “saving” requires extreme measures. Perhaps something along the lines of “THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS” and then, what we could have had was a civil war within the UNSC. There could be a group within the military that views themselves as undervalued (ODST,possibly) since spartans IVs are the new big thing.ODSTs could be the prime candidate as they are cherry picked to do the most dangerous of job and don’t receive the care and funding the spartans receive. We know from the novels that Ackerson tried to outdo the spartan-IIs and regularly asked for more funding to be directed towards the ODST divisions. We already know that there is a slight “rivalry” between the ODST and the spartans. The Assembly then reaches out to one these people and discusses the prospect of uniting man and machine in a single body, like John and Cortana and what this does is create a three way standoff between the standard UNSC, the Minority (who advocate the communion of man and machine) and the Majority who reject such a communion but still feel that humanity cannot take care of itself and they must intervene personally.
It is a theory and many may hate it but the point is, the existence of the Assembly opened up many options for the story to progress.
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> Title is self-explanatory. The entire Legislative Assembly and the Committee of Minds is a plot device that I find myself often wondering about. Maybe Halo: Infinite could reintroduce then in some way? They simply disappeared after Reach. What’s even more disappointing is that they were not some useless, filler organization but an actual, well-informed group that had the potential to severely impact the entire Halo universe.
I always wished some way or some how Noble 6 before he died managed to let someone know about what he found.
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> They were basically retconned out by 343i. They said something along the lines of ‘these sources can’t be trusted or verified’ which is basically saying “they’re no longer canon” but in a way where the fans won’t fully raise their pitchforks and torches.
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> Frankly the entire concept was a brilliant idea to show the power of AI and how they operate together without humans, but like everything else 343i screwed it up once they took over.
Absolutely. They worked great for Noble Team and their AI Dot on Reach", so why couldn’t they work with anyone else in the new Halo games?