I know many players are cringing at the way the armor looks now. I know I am, and I love the Mark V very much, as it was the first armor we were introduced in the Halo games. To remaster it and make it look so terrible though, I am disappointed.
There is however, time to save it! As we are aware, Airborne Studios developed it for Halo 5: Guardians, and they seem to resent it by making it look so bad. There is an artist on DeviantArt who has remade the armor design, using the model they provided for the game. The results, his concept of the armor is absolutely stunning.
I have some comparison photos he released showing his remake of the Mark V (Alpha) below:
This artist is very talented and in my honest opinion, no remake of the armor up to this point has had such a good and accurate look as much as this artist has created, and I greatly commend him for his abilities. This is all that I could ever have wanted the Mark V to look in the remakes. The proportions of his remake are perfect, the helmet is not stubby, or flat like someone dropped someone on their head, and the armor looks bulky and blocky like it did back in the original game. The design takes me back to the Halo CE days. The armor even utilizes the new under suit, and compliments it well. I think 343 Industries, as well as Airborne Studios, should take the opportunity to take notes on the design, and implement this into the game.
I would hope to see some consideration go into place, as this would make the biggest difference and would make having the armor so much more satisfying.
I’m still cringing over the previously released version, and now I’m double cringing today.
The body has a few accuracy issues in terms of shape and the lack of pouches. I’d also prefer the shield emitters to be placed differently, at least closer to how they were originally. The helmet needs to be redone entirely. They could use the H4 version as a base and tweak it as needed.
Edit: And while I’m at it, I’d like to point out that the Helljumper armor chest piece is raised too high. Such that it hovers over the Spartan’s torso.
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> I’m still cringing over the previously released version, and now I’m double cringing today.
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> The body has a few accuracy issues in terms of shape and the lack of pouches. The helmet needs to be redone entirely. They could use the H4 version as a base and tweak it as needed.
I think the design the artist I provided a link to has the most accurate looking concept of the armor. It looks practically like it did back in the original Halo, it actually looks like the original concept arts for the game and it compliments the in game model pretty well.
And as for the Helljumper, I do agree, I noticed with the Hunter the same thing is an issue. It wasn’t meant for that under suit they use in Matchmaking. Only for the one Buck uses.
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> > I’m still cringing over the previously released version, and now I’m double cringing today.
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> > The body has a few accuracy issues in terms of shape and the lack of pouches. The helmet needs to be redone entirely. They could use the H4 version as a base and tweak it as needed.
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> I think the design the artist I provided a link to has the most accurate looking concept of the armor. It looks practically like it did back in the original Halo, it actually looks like the original concept arts for the game and it compliments the in game model pretty well.
I like the latest redesign you presented. However the helmet’s brim may be at a strange angle. Other than that, it’s 100%.
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> > > I’m still cringing over the previously released version, and now I’m double cringing today.
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> > > The body has a few accuracy issues in terms of shape and the lack of pouches. The helmet needs to be redone entirely. They could use the H4 version as a base and tweak it as needed.
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> > I think the design the artist I provided a link to has the most accurate looking concept of the armor. It looks practically like it did back in the original Halo, it actually looks like the original concept arts for the game and it compliments the in game model pretty well.
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> I like the latest redesign you presented. However the helmet’s brim may be at a strange angle. Other than that, it’s 100%.
It’s merely the angle, the Mark V has an odd looking brim at any angle, haha
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> Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
Neither is that model you posted, either. It’s hardly the true Mark V that I played on the original CE, pretty sure the helmet is just directly ripped from Halo 3 (or adapted, in some way) with the removal of the visor line and a retexture to make it less blatant. Much like the rest of CE:A outside of the elites and jackals. (which were blatantly obvious)
The redesign concept above is more based on the original CE design, and free of all subsequent design influences. Mark V Alpha was supposed to be this, too. But the helmet turned out awful
There are subtle differences between the two. Halo 4 was close, though.
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> Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> Neither is that model you posted, either. It’s hardly the true Mark V that I played on the original CE, pretty sure the helmet is just directly ripped from Halo 3 (or adapted, in some way) with the removal of the visor line and a retexture to make it less blatant. Much like the rest of CE:A outside of the elites and jackals. (which were blatantly obvious)
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> The redesign concept above is more based on the original CE design, and free of all subsequent design influences. Mark V Alpha was supposed to be this, too. But the helmet turned out awful
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> There are subtle differences between the two. Halo 4 was close, though.
Well the thing is that the picture I provided is the current canon Mk V. The Mk V from CE is no longer canon as the suit the Spartan-IIs wore… so yeah, get lored?
Honestly if 343 released the original mark v then I would be be okay because if you line up all the mark v’s together then it kinda looks like evolution between each version of mark v, even mark v alphas visor harkens back to the prototype mark I exoskeletons, so mark v alpha definitely belongs in the mark v family.
The reason why nobody freaked out over mark v (b) in halo reach is probably because the original mark v was still in the game, even then there was a little flak because it looked slightly different from previous games.
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> > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> http://tekka-croe.deviantart.com/art/MJOLNIR-Mk-V-An-Artistic-Rebuttal-591782648
Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
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> > > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> > Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> > http://tekka-croe.deviantart.com/art/MJOLNIR-Mk-V-An-Artistic-Rebuttal-591782648
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> Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
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> Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
Oh, I am very aware, I’m simply stating if you want to go back to that classic look it originally had which was supposed to be canon, that remake the artist made would be the best shot. The current Mark V Alpha from the Anniversary and Halo 4, I’d gladly take over the existing armor that was provided. However, adding the design they are using right now in Halo 5: Guardians, contradicts what is supposed to be the Alpha armor in Halo 4 and Halo CEA, so at the same time, none of the armors that are currently out in the last two games would be canon, it kinda cancels it out since the newest render is more like the Bungie version. It’s confusing when they try to make things canon or non on Canon Fodder, because there’s so many concepts and designs for things in the game that makes it all nonsensical.
A good example of that (off topic slightly) is the way they tried to make an excuse for the way the Sangheili looked in Halo 4/5, versus the ones in the previous games, as phenotypes of their species and certain ones looked more different. They sacrificed the unique looks and armors so they could use one specific design for simplicity, obviously to make designing the game more easy.
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> > > > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> > > Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> > > http://tekka-croe.deviantart.com/art/MJOLNIR-Mk-V-An-Artistic-Rebuttal-591782648
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> > Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
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> > Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
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> Oh, I am very aware, I’m simply stating if you want to go back to that classic look it originally had which was supposed to be canon, that remake the artist made would be the best shot. The current Mark V Alpha from the Anniversary and Halo 4, I’d gladly take over the existing armor that was provided.
But Mk V Alpha wasn’t in CEA or 4, that was Mk V.
I understand what you’re trying to say though. But why scrap the current Mk V Alpha design and replace it with Mk V? It makes no sense. They are not the same armor.
Edit: I must state this again, because you seem confused in your post… Mk V Alpha is not the same armor seen in every other Halo game. It is an entirely new set, like CQB or EOD, it’s not the Mk V that we all know and love.
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> > > > > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> > > > Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> > > > http://tekka-croe.deviantart.com/art/MJOLNIR-Mk-V-An-Artistic-Rebuttal-591782648
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> > > Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
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> > > Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
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> > Oh, I am very aware, I’m simply stating if you want to go back to that classic look it originally had which was supposed to be canon, that remake the artist made would be the best shot. The current Mark V Alpha from the Anniversary and Halo 4, I’d gladly take over the existing armor that was provided.
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> > > > > Instead of all of that, how about they just give us Mk V instead? Mk V Alpha isn’t the true Mk V afterall…
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> > > > Well, the thing is, the Mark V (Alpha) is the original Mark V. There was only one form of it which was Alpha, according to books. The ones presented in Halo: Reach, and any after that were the official ones, that were made for the Spartan III’s. The render we got of it in the game is simply just a horrible remake of what is supposed to be that original armor, hence my reason for providing an artist’s remake of the armor which looks just like the original from Halo CE:
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> > > Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
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> > > Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
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> > Oh, I am very aware, I’m simply stating if you want to go back to that classic look it originally had which was supposed to be canon, that remake the artist made would be the best shot. The current Mark V Alpha from the Anniversary and Halo 4, I’d gladly take over the existing armor that was provided.
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> But Mk V Alpha wasn’t in CEA or 4, that was Mk V.
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> I understand what you’re trying to say though. But why scrap the current Mk V Alpha design and replace it with Mk V? It makes no sense. They are not the same armor.
Well that’s what I’m saying, is the Alpha armor is supposed to be Mark V from the previous Halo games, but when they re-licensed the designs on their part, they changed up the whole logic of the canon armor. The Alpha was supposed to be Mark V, but now it’s being put off as multiple different designs when it should have stayed under that title of mark V, like in Halo 4 and so on and so forth. The alpha prefix confused a lot of the community in that way. They mean for it to be original Mark V, but it’s simply just a cosmetic change now which is causing a lot of confusion. That is the fault of trying to remake something and change the validity of canon, just like the Mark VI from Halo 3 to Halo 4. But stripping the design and bringing it to a bit more classic look kinda makes it something more enjoyable to people, reminding them of what they used to enjoy in the game. I understand change and so on and so forth, but going back to the original to homage one of the most iconic designs would be the better way to go to me, it draws everyone in, including new players to the Halo games, while the old players can still get that satisfaction. That’s kinda how I see it. Either way though, that Mark V helmet in Halo 5 is terrible. xD
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> > > > Anniversary updates overwrite old canon. So the CEA Mk V is the canon “original” Mk V.
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> > > > Grim states that in a Canon Fodder from last year. I’ll find it and link it.
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> > > Oh, I am very aware, I’m simply stating if you want to go back to that classic look it originally had which was supposed to be canon, that remake the artist made would be the best shot. The current Mark V Alpha from the Anniversary and Halo 4, I’d gladly take over the existing armor that was provided.
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> > But Mk V Alpha wasn’t in CEA or 4, that was Mk V.
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> > I understand what you’re trying to say though. But why scrap the current Mk V Alpha design and replace it with Mk V? It makes no sense. They are not the same armor.
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> Well that’s what I’m saying, is the Alpha armor is supposed to be Mark V from the previous Halo games, but when they re-licensed the designs on their part, they changed up the whole logic of the canon armor. The Alpha was supposed to be Mark V, but now it’s being put off as multiple different designs when it should have stayed under that title of mark V, like in Halo 4 and so on and so forth. The alpha prefix confused a lot of the community in that way. They mean for it to be original Mark V, but it’s simply just a cosmetic change now which is causing a lot of confusion. That is the fault of trying to remake something and change the validity of canon, just like the Mark VI from Halo 3 to Halo 4. But stripping the design and bringing it to a bit more classic look kinda makes it something more enjoyable to people, reminding them of what they used to enjoy in the game. I understand change and so on and so forth, but going back to the original to homage one of the most iconic designs would be the better way to go to me, it draws everyone in, including new players to the Halo games, while the old players can still get that satisfaction. That’s kinda how I see it. Either way though, that Mark V helmet in Halo 5 is terrible. xD
The Mark V alpha isn’t meant to represent the originals, hell even the description of the armor says no one knows why it was made.
Lets all just agree here, that its NOT Mark V, and it looks awful
