I am not enjoying Ragnarok , AT ALL. It literally is the most annoying map I’ve ever played on, by far. If you don’t rush to get a vehicle you are just hiding from every vehicle driving/flying around. It is beyond annoying to be in the middle of a Br/DMR battle and to get fuel rodded by a banshee or have a warthog come flying by unloading on you. The mantis is extremely annoying too, if you are playing alone you really can’t do anything about it unless the other people in your game are willing to talk and listen.
“Everyone is using it” THIS is the problem. There is no variety of gameplay, which is dull and not fun for anybody. I would much rather see a variety of weapons in play. Not just everyone using the DMR and sitting on a hill
It has nothing to do with Ragonrak, It’s the EXACT same map that was in Halo 3. It does, however, have to do with the new weapons/weapon and vehicle mechanics.
> I am not enjoying Ragnarok , AT ALL. It literally is the most annoying map I’ve ever played on, by far. If you don’t rush to get a vehicle you are just hiding from every vehicle driving/flying around. It is beyond annoying to be in the middle of a Br/DMR battle and to get fuel rodded by a banshee or have a warthog come flying by unloading on you. The mantis is extremely annoying too, if you are playing alone you really can’t do anything about it unless the other people in your game are willing to talk and listen.
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> What are your thoughts on Ragnarok?
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> -colbyrules8
So… basically it’s exactly the same as all-time favorite maps Sandtrap and Valhalla?
> <mark>The DMR is fine because everyone is playing with it ,</mark> and if you are a good player you can get away from the damage burst it has.
Ok first off not everyone is using it and secondly if they were that certainly doesn’t make it fine! It’s range and kill time literally destroys the pacing of any large scale maps, 343i described it as a “mini sniper” at one point and I for one think it is appalling to be able to spawn with something that can pick off players from across the map with ease and is better than most weapon pick-ups.
> > I am not enjoying Ragnarok , AT ALL. It literally is the most annoying map I’ve ever played on, by far. If you don’t rush to get a vehicle you are just hiding from every vehicle driving/flying around. It is beyond annoying to be in the middle of a Br/DMR battle and to get fuel rodded by a banshee or have a warthog come flying by unloading on you. The mantis is extremely annoying too, if you are playing alone you really can’t do anything about it unless the other people in your game are willing to talk and listen.
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> > What are your thoughts on Ragnarok?
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> > -colbyrules8
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> So… basically it’s exactly the same as all-time favorite maps Sandtrap and Valhalla?
Did Valhalla have-
2x Banshees
2x Warthogs
all of the mongooses
2x mantis’
No, I don’t even remember valhalla having banshees other than in big team.
> It has nothing to do with Ragonrak, It’s the EXACT same map that was in Halo 3. It does, however, have to do with the new weapons/weapon and vehicle mechanics.
No it isn’t.
The side opposite of the Pelican now has zero cover, but this map was awful in Halo 3 as well.
Any team that has the hill will control the map, and it is worse than before with rarely any weapon spawning on the map.
I find it frustrating when you get to a point where all the vehicles are dead or taken, and many players have power weapons. That is when I get frustrated, because if I die, I lose whatever power weapon or vehicle I had, then I am screwed because there are no other weapons to use besides the dmr.
don’t get me wrong I enjoy the hell out of Ragnarok, but it could use some tweaking
> “Everyone is using it” THIS is the problem. There is no variety of gameplay, which is dull and not fun for anybody. I would much rather see a variety of weapons in play. Not just everyone using the DMR and sitting on a hill
I notice H4 has much more weapon variety than H2, H3, or Reach…
If you play intelligently, Ragnarok is a great map. Sure the DMR is a bit overpowered, but the abundance of power weapons from ordinance and the general versatility of most every weapon keeps it from running rampant.
Ye-ah, I frankly love Ragnarok. I didn’t mind Valhalla, but Ragnarok somehow feels more fun. Possibly thanks to the Infinity drops that allow you to spice things up a bit.
And, really, I see FAR more people spamming the BR than I do DMR. BR seems to be the go-to weapon in most matches, possibly in a sort of ‘welcome back!’ gesture. I also see the DMR and the Carbine (which, FYI, is pretty much the same weapon, so shouldn’t people be screaming for nerfs to that too?) and the Light rifle.
What I barely see at all is the fully automatic weapons. Which is a shame, given the new AR sounds and ‘feels’ fantastic. So, meh, maybe boost the AR and others rather than shout for nerfs? Everyone ALWAYS shouts for nerfs.
As for the map itself and vehicles…uh, yeah, Valhalla also had a lot of vehicles. This is nothing new. Yes, the Banshee can be a problem. Yes, the Mantis can also be a problem. Nothing about this should be new and surprising in any way whatsoever. Because ANY vehicle that gets ignored is going to wreck the hell out of you. I’ve seen both ‘problem’ vehicles go up and then down in flames in a few seconds against good teams. Often I’m one of the ones with a big grin and a loaded plasma pistol. Or a rocket launcher, or other instrument of joyful doom-bringing.
The ‘problem’ is not that the vehicles are overpowered. They are not. The problem is that idiot players need to be steered towards the ‘Target Priority’ lessons. Player error does not equal overpowered vehicles, people.
I don’t like it, it’s too ranged. Five minutes in and everyone has gotten a sniper package. Those who haven’t sit around with DMRs. Then as soon as something shootable pops up it becomes Swiss cheese. It feels bigger than in Halo 3 as well.
Things that are annoying on Ragnarok and need removed.
Grenades
Mantis
Banshee
Warthog
Spartan Laser
Rail gun
Ghost
Turret
All random weapon drops
BR
DMR
Light rifle
Sniper
Saw
Ordinances that aren’t the move faster one
And any other weapons i may have forgotten
While we are at it lets take out the spartans because they are bad for the environment.
And thats my plan to make Ragnarock a wildlife nature preserve!!!
BTW i think ragnarock is as balanced as can be, but you cannot just go running and gunning through the mid, think cover not concealment.