343, please alter region lock for Australia. The community is still suffering here.
So, this morning I finally managed to play some games (mostly FFA).
I’m Italian, 20 Mbps down/ 1Mbps up connection.
Plenty of Americans and Mexicans.
Apart from some exceptions (exactly like it was with region lock, not every game was perfect with it), I really did not see all this massive lag in every single game you are talking about.
On connection quality side i really don’t see this massive and negative change.
On search time side and ability to play even off peak hours I can see enormous improvements instead.
From last server update Halo 5 is trash. Mexican and american people playing from spain? Absurd! Hiperlaggy, lost and lost and lost again. I shell xbox one only for halo. Never more Halo.
Never more Microsoft.
Never more 343.
They haven’t removed region lock in Australia and NZ. What the heck
you guys need to put the region lock back!!!
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> you guys need to put the region lock back!!!
Absolutely not.
Do everything you need to reduce lag: fix netcode, introduce manual filters, build a smarter system that privilege best connections first but NO MORE REGION LOCK, WE HAVE SEEN ENOUGH “UNABLE TO MATCH” MESSAGES
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> 343, please alter region lock for Australia. The community is still suffering here.
This^^^
@ 343i / Forum Team
Please refer to the numerous new threads with players reporting issues with latency and connection issues as a direct consequence of removing region lock.
REMOVING REGION LOCK IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!
Yes, the removal of region lock enables players to find games again in certain regions in certain game modes, but with the direct consequence of making the quality of game play suffer including increased visible lag and all the symptoms of high latency.
This is NOT a reasonable solution. Are the network and development incapable of providing server selection to enable players to decide which servers to connect for themselves?
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> @ 343i / Forum Team
> Please refer to the numerous new threads with players reporting issues with latency and connection issues as a direct consequence of removing region lock.
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> REMOVING REGION LOCK IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!
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> Yes, the removal of region lock enables players to find games again in certain regions in certain game modes, but with the direct consequence of making the quality of game play suffer including increased visible lag and all the symptoms of high latency.
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> This is NOT a reasonable solution. Are the network and development incapable of providing server selection to enable players to decide which servers to connect for themselves?
No, they cant fix it. What do you except? They still didnt fix the MCC which is 1 and a half years old game. 343 cant provide acceptable multiplayer outside of usa. Simple. They just cant. I dont understand people who still believe in miracles. Since the 343 showed up, the halo is unplayable or just not fun. They cant make a good halo game.
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@ 343i / Forum Team
Can you provide us some infos about these “improvements”? Searches times have certainly improved but also the number of laggy games with overseas people even on EU prime time. It seems that you guys took off region lock without doing anything else to privilege nearer servers firstly.
What about matchmaking filters or a better algorithm that privileges nearer players in the first place and then widen its range progressively if nobody is available in your region in that moment?
Doesn’t seems rocket science since lot of multiplayer games out there already use solutions like these…
Find games within seconds now thanks a lot 343!
Constantly getting paired up with EU and Latin America players. The connection is garbage. I don’t care if they don’t want region lock so they can still get games. The gameplay is worse for everyone without region lock. Obviously the only solution is to have to the option to lock yourself in your region so you don’t have to put up with EU players tanking shots all day long. Bring region lock back or give us the option. In the past 24 hours I’ve never played more questionable connections in this game. Players just tanking shots, shots not registering and players teleporting. It’s an absolute mess and a step backwards in the matchmaking experience
Denmark, huge lagging issues. arena only play there if you want a really low rank and poor gaming quality.
please put region lock back until you have a better solution, this is unplayable.
343i… you’ve actually ruined Halo 5 and are on course for it dying in EU.
These past few months with region lock ON we were really enjoying it, getting matched on EU servers against EU players, it was a dream. People actually died, bullet registration was on point!
You remove it and omfg you can FEEL how horrible it is, you can see it visually as the enemy seems to be sped up and act as bullet sponges but what is actually happening is what you see is a shadow, so technically the bullets are missing because they’re no longer where they are on our screen. In a straight line, fine, they will die, if it’s straffing especially in a 1v1 situation, not happening unless they’re bad. You said you wanted a COMPETITIVE game, you CANNOT have a competitive game with HIGH LATENCY!!!
People who play games like Battlefield or Titanfall, purposely going into a server not in their region is committing suicide as they will screw themselves over with high ping. On Halo 5 now with region lock OFF, high ping is forced on everyone.
Search times were fine for all of us in our company, those in EU did not suffer, INCLUDING ITALIANS!! We would get matched with no bother.
Search times now with region lock off has made NO difference, we still get matched just fine. However, due to “SOME” people in certain regions not being able to find a match, apparently that’s grounds for the rest of us to suffer!?
Because people want to play at stupid o’ clock aka the early hours when most people in their region are asleep, because they can’t find a game that means the rest of us who play at a reasonable time should suffer because of them!?!? How about they join players in the US of A on their friends list and match that way!? That’s what we did when region lock was ON, and guess what, those games were of far better quality than the one’s forced on us now for some strange reason. We knew going in we were going to get latency but not to this extent!
80% of games now are vs US/CAN/MEX on US servers and we simply cannot do anything because where we see them, isn’t where they truly are. So bullet registration is all over the place painting a silhouette on the wall behind them as we’re shooting their shadow. This gives those players a HUGE advantage. Alternatively, for whatever reason, if the opposite happens and those US/CAN/MEX players get pulled onto an EU server, the same will happen to them as ATRAHCITY pointed out.
How apparently EU players on his screen were “tanking shots”, or more precisely as I said above, not even sponging, it’s the fact where we are on our screen is different to his. He will see a shadow on his screen of where we were 1-2 seconds or more depending on distance to servers. So if for EXAMPLE he was facing me on an EU server, he would be shooting at me but I would receive little damage or no damage at all whilst my bullets all hit him, connecting and doing damage. What I see is him a couple of seconds ago as well so his reactions are going to be slower, or what is perceived as slower because he hasn’t seen me or reacted to my movements in the duel. This is massively unfair. I get a huge advantage. However if we were to switch it and be on a US server, ATRAHCITY would be at an advantage and the reverse would happen as pointed out.
It simply cannot go on, it’s unplayable.
Arena is off limits. It’s tighter, smaller maps so action is intensified and on US servers is just not enjoyable; US players have admitted to just mowing down players, saying how much easier it is now for them to get kills because EU players are suffering when they connect to a US server, especially on West Coast with 200-300ms! They will obviously, as there’s a massive delay for the EU player.
IT’S NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
I paid a hell of a lot of money for this game 343i, give us dedicated servers IN OUR REGION, simply flip the switch and put REGION LOCK ON! Update your p.o.s game with SELECTABLE REGIONAL SERVERS FFS!!
The only hope we have right now is Warzone, as that at least is slightly tolerable/playable from RANGE, using long distant weapons like the DMR or sniper and praying that the shot connects. The games since the update have drastically dropped in quality & performance.
It is not hard to figure out 343i, you cannot have high ping connections. Sacrificing quality for faster search times is a yoinking joke and you know it! Such an amateur and stupid decision.
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> 343i… you’ve actually ruined Halo 5 and are on course for it dying in EU.
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> These past few months with region lock ON we were really enjoying it, getting matched on EU servers against EU players, it was a dream. People actually died, bullet registration was on point!
>
> You remove it and omfg you can FEEL how horrible it is, you can see it visually as the enemy seems to be sped up and act as bullet sponges but what is actually happening is what you see is a shadow, so technically the bullets are missing because they’re no longer where they are on our screen. In a straight line, fine, they will die, if it’s straffing especially in a 1v1 situation, not happening unless they’re bad. You said you wanted a COMPETITIVE game, you CANNOT have a competitive game with HIGH LATENCY!!!
>
> People who play games like Battlefield or Titanfall, purposely going into a server not in their region is committing suicide as they will screw themselves over with high ping. On Halo 5 now with region lock OFF, high ping is forced on everyone.
>
> Search times were fine for all of us in our company, those in EU did not suffer, INCLUDING ITALIANS!! We would get matched with no bother.
>
> Search times now with region lock off has made NO difference, we still get matched just fine. However, due to “SOME” people in certain regions not being able to find a match, apparently that’s grounds for the rest of us to suffer!?
>
> Because people want to play at stupid o’ clock aka the early hours when most people in their region are asleep, because they can’t find a game that means the rest of us who play at a reasonable time should suffer because of them!?!? How about they join players in the US of A on their friends list and match that way!? That’s what we did when region lock was ON, and guess what, those games were of far better quality than the one’s forced on us now for some strange reason. We knew going in we were going to get latency but not to this extent!
>
> 80% of games now are vs US/CAN/MEX on US servers and we simply cannot do anything because where we see them, isn’t where they truly are. So bullet registration is all over the place painting a silhouette on the wall behind them as we’re shooting their shadow. This gives those players a HUGE advantage. Alternatively, for whatever reason, if the opposite happens and those US/CAN/MEX players get pulled onto an EU server, the same will happen to them as ATRAHCITY pointed out.
>
> How apparently EU players on his screen were “tanking shots”, or more precisely as I said above, not even sponging, it’s the fact where we are on our screen is different to his. He will see a shadow on his screen of where we were 1-2 seconds or more depending on distance to servers. So if for EXAMPLE he was facing me on an EU server, he would be shooting at me but I would receive little damage or no damage at all whilst my bullets all hit him, connecting and doing damage. What I see is him a couple of seconds ago as well so his reactions are going to be slower, or what is perceived as slower because he hasn’t seen me or reacted to my movements in the duel. This is massively unfair. I get a huge advantage. However if we were to switch it and be on a US server, ATRAHCITY would be at an advantage and the reverse would happen as pointed out.
>
> It simply cannot go on, it’s unplayable.
>
> Arena is off limits. It’s tighter, smaller maps so action is intensified and on US servers is just not enjoyable; US players have admitted to just mowing down players, saying how much easier it is now for them to get kills because EU players are suffering when they connect to a US server, especially on West Coast with 200-300ms! They will obviously, as there’s a massive delay for the EU player.
>
> IT’S NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
>
> I paid a hell of a lot of money for this game 343i, give us dedicated servers IN OUR REGION, simply flip the switch and put REGION LOCK ON! Update your p.o.s game with SELECTABLE REGIONAL SERVERS FFS!!
>
> The only hope we have right now is Warzone, as that at least is slightly tolerable/playable from RANGE, using long distant weapons like the DMR or sniper and praying that the shot connects. The games since the update have drastically dropped in quality & performance.
>
> It is not hard to figure out 343i, you cannot have high ping connections. Sacrificing quality for faster search times is a yoinking joke and you know it! Such an amateur and stupid decision.
We need a smarter system. Region lock is not the answer.
Region lock as it was is bad as lag itself
@ Bucky - completely 100% agree.
@ EBLspartan - 1) yes we do 2) region lock is not the answer but it is the best temporary solution 3) comparing low latency games in region lock to high latency games without region lock is like comparing day and night. The lag on region lock was there occasionally but no where near as much as it is now (FYI: visual lag is a symptom of high latency and/or packet loss so if a player lags on EU server this could be an issue with their connection rather high latency due to distance to server).
The quote below is from a US player pretty much sums up the issue most UK/EU players will now be experiencing whether they realise it or not…
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> > > Oh and that is so true, 343i should not tell everyone who is lagging in Europe to stop playing. I just stated what I would do. I mean, if I was you, I wouldn’t want to play with me either, from playing arena while typing this post I am just mowing down people way more easily than I normally do, the match just finished as I typed this sentence, and from checking the locations the other players, they are from the UK. Wow, an EU server does seem like the best solution now, if you guys ever get it I will miss these types of matches because they are so much fun.
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> > > Anyways, happy gaming to you.
If we assume that he/she wasn’t just playing against a bunch of n00bs, then this is US player blatantly admitting that they now have a connection advantage over UK/EU players, and it is much easier for them to get kills than when playing US vs US. Are there any UK/EU players that would like to disagree with this opinion of a US gamer?
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Region UK\EU - Date/Time/Timezone Friday April 1th /4PM to 10PM /BST(GMT+1) - Playlist(s) social slayer and team slayer - Any addition details Game breakdown
1 game on EU north
7 games on US south
3 games on US east
1 games on US north
2 games on US central
Played 14 game only got 1 game on a EU server. The other 13 game where unplayable because of the latency every other player was moving in a glitchy way and I was being killed round corners I was also kill by what seems to be less shot than it should take to be killed.
I basically seen nope of this while the region locked was on players would move really smoothly 99% of the time.
@ lastbyte01 - could you confirm how you know which servers you were on please? Are you using Netduma or another method to identify server location.
If these details are correct then its fair to suggest that they have simply removed region lock and reverted to previous settings which is simply not acceptable.
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> > 343i… you’ve actually ruined Halo 5 and are on course for it dying in EU.
> >
> > These past few months with region lock ON we were really enjoying it, getting matched on EU servers against EU players, it was a dream. People actually died, bullet registration was on point!
> >
> > You remove it and omfg you can FEEL how horrible it is, you can see it visually as the enemy seems to be sped up and act as bullet sponges but what is actually happening is what you see is a shadow, so technically the bullets are missing because they’re no longer where they are on our screen. In a straight line, fine, they will die, if it’s straffing especially in a 1v1 situation, not happening unless they’re bad. You said you wanted a COMPETITIVE game, you CANNOT have a competitive game with HIGH LATENCY!!!
> >
> > People who play games like Battlefield or Titanfall, purposely going into a server not in their region is committing suicide as they will screw themselves over with high ping. On Halo 5 now with region lock OFF, high ping is forced on everyone.
> >
> > Search times were fine for all of us in our company, those in EU did not suffer, INCLUDING ITALIANS!! We would get matched with no bother.
> >
> > Search times now with region lock off has made NO difference, we still get matched just fine. However, due to “SOME” people in certain regions not being able to find a match, apparently that’s grounds for the rest of us to suffer!?
> >
> > Because people want to play at stupid o’ clock aka the early hours when most people in their region are asleep, because they can’t find a game that means the rest of us who play at a reasonable time should suffer because of them!?!? How about they join players in the US of A on their friends list and match that way!? That’s what we did when region lock was ON, and guess what, those games were of far better quality than the one’s forced on us now for some strange reason. We knew going in we were going to get latency but not to this extent!
> >
> > 80% of games now are vs US/CAN/MEX on US servers and we simply cannot do anything because where we see them, isn’t where they truly are. So bullet registration is all over the place painting a silhouette on the wall behind them as we’re shooting their shadow. This gives those players a HUGE advantage. Alternatively, for whatever reason, if the opposite happens and those US/CAN/MEX players get pulled onto an EU server, the same will happen to them as ATRAHCITY pointed out.
> >
> > How apparently EU players on his screen were “tanking shots”, or more precisely as I said above, not even sponging, it’s the fact where we are on our screen is different to his. He will see a shadow on his screen of where we were 1-2 seconds or more depending on distance to servers. So if for EXAMPLE he was facing me on an EU server, he would be shooting at me but I would receive little damage or no damage at all whilst my bullets all hit him, connecting and doing damage. What I see is him a couple of seconds ago as well so his reactions are going to be slower, or what is perceived as slower because he hasn’t seen me or reacted to my movements in the duel. This is massively unfair. I get a huge advantage. However if we were to switch it and be on a US server, ATRAHCITY would be at an advantage and the reverse would happen as pointed out.
> >
> > It simply cannot go on, it’s unplayable.
> >
> > Arena is off limits. It’s tighter, smaller maps so action is intensified and on US servers is just not enjoyable; US players have admitted to just mowing down players, saying how much easier it is now for them to get kills because EU players are suffering when they connect to a US server, especially on West Coast with 200-300ms! They will obviously, as there’s a massive delay for the EU player.
> >
> > IT’S NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
> >
> > I paid a hell of a lot of money for this game 343i, give us dedicated servers IN OUR REGION, simply flip the switch and put REGION LOCK ON! Update your p.o.s game with SELECTABLE REGIONAL SERVERS FFS!!
> >
> > The only hope we have right now is Warzone, as that at least is slightly tolerable/playable from RANGE, using long distant weapons like the DMR or sniper and praying that the shot connects. The games since the update have drastically dropped in quality & performance.
> >
> > It is not hard to figure out 343i, you cannot have high ping connections. Sacrificing quality for faster search times is a yoinking joke and you know it! Such an amateur and stupid decision.
>
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> We need a smarter system. Region lock is not the answer.
> Region lock as it was is bad as lag itself
We do need a better system but Region lock should have stayed in place until they have a new system to put in place.
At least under Region lock you could enjoy almost lag free games but with the Region lock off about 90% of your games are going to suffer from high latency being on US servers.
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> @ lastbyte01 - could you confirm how you know which servers you were on please? Are you using Netduma or another method to identify server location.
>
> If these details are correct then its fair to suggest that they have simply removed region lock and reverted to previous settings which is simply not acceptable.
Don’t have Netduma using another method.