Regicide: The Little Juggernaut That Couldn't

Here I am making thread #1000 about why Regicide sucks, in hopes that you will ADD NEW PLAYLISTS TO THE GAME. Why can’t you just give us every playlist you can think of and let the population numbers sort it out? We understand that you’re mad that nobody wants to play Regicide because it’s horrible, it is such a social playlist it’s not even funny. Please give us CLASSIC FFA.

As it currently stands, being the king honestly is horribly disadvantageous. I’m so tired of losing to bads with negative k/d ratios because they can manage to sneak headshots in on the king. This gametype is awful.

If I’m the king and I die, the moment I respawn I have 3 DMRs in my -Yoink- because I have a giant red target painted on my head. I mean honestly, what WERE you thinking when you made this playlist and expected it to be better than FFA?

The overshield/damage boost you get for being the king for extended periods of time does not outweigh the fact that you nearly insta-die the moment you respawn due to the fact that you are very highly visible to everyone else on the map.

That’s about all I have to say here.

And please, for the love of god, fix these forums. They’re so horrible. Give us some sub-forums so that every post we make isn’t buried under 500 others in five minutes, because every thread about every different topic is piled into one giant mass.

Amazing. 4 minutes elapsed and my post is already buried under 12-15 other threads.

And this isn’t even primetime, all of the little kids are still in school right now.

Sorry the rest of the community doesn’t have the same idea as you and thing your topic should be at the top of the list. Here have a cookie and a participation ribbon. You are the best Halo 4 player out there and should always win every game you play.

You want a response? Fine.

Regicide is fine. If people who sucked at the game would stop complaining about how bad it is and learn how to get better instead, the world would be a much better place.

I think Regicide is an excellent gametype actually. It’s better than Juggernaut in the way that the King can prey on opportunities created by the globally hostile opponents and they’re not more powerful than a normal player as standard. They get OS and DMB, but they only get them once. This means that it’s actually possible to get a fair 1v1 against the King, unlike Juggernaut.

I don’t mean to question your skill but if you’re good at it, Regicide is an excellent gametype, and if you ARE the King, you won’t have problems with people stealing your kills on them.

It’s easily one of my preferred gametypes given how unnecessarily hectic standard Infinity Slayer is, though I really enjoy both FFA and Team Regicide.

> You want a response? Fine.
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> Regicide is fine. If people who sucked at the game would stop complaining about how bad it is and learn how to get better instead, the world would be a much better place.

I think you missed the point entirely. The point is, 343 is too proud to admit that nobody likes Regicide and that Classic FFA would have at least double or more the Regicide population count if it were an actual playlist.

Regicide introduces nothing new to the game other than the guy with the most points is easier to find/kill, which is a significant change.

It isn’t a matter of getting better at the game, it’s a matter of the game is now coming down to luck/factors out of your control more so than actual gameplay and marksmanship. I don’t want to lose to players that manage to get lucky headshots on the king when he’s no shields and get 3.5x the normal amount of points for it. It’s ridiculous.

Your response is ultimately not constructive, it’s the same ‘umad, get better’ response that makes up 90% of posts on this forum.

If you don’t like regicide…play something else. No one’s forcing you to play this gametype. In case you didn’t realize, there’s slayer, CTF, etc as alternatives.

> > You want a response? Fine.
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> > Regicide is fine. If people who sucked at the game would stop complaining about how bad it is and learn how to get better instead, the world would be a much better place.
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> I think you missed the point entirely. The point is, 343 is too proud to admit <mark>that nobody likes Regicide</mark> and that Classic FFA would have at least double or more the Regicide population count if it were an actual playlist.
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> Regicide introduces nothing new to the game other than the guy with the most points is easier to find/kill, which is a significant change.
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> It isn’t a matter of getting better at the game, it’s a matter of the game is now coming down to luck/factors out of your control more so than actual gameplay and marksmanship. I don’t want to lose to players that manage to get lucky headshots on the king when he’s no shields and get 3.5x the normal amount of points for it. It’s ridiculous.
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> Your response is ultimately not constructive, it’s the same ‘umad, get better’ response that makes up 90% of posts on this forum.

Please don’t try to speak on the behalf of the whole community. I, for one, absolutely adore Regicide, both the team and FFA variants. What I love about the games is, if you’re the king, you’re meant to play smartly rather than just charge in and kill everything you see like in regular FFA Slayer. You need to stay back and make people come to you so you can beat them on your terms, not theirs.

In addition, Regicide is fun, and continues to be fun whether I win or lose. If you do not enjoy losing and come to the point where you complain about the gametype on an online forum due to not being able to win, then perhaps this specific gametype isn’t for you.

> > You want a response? Fine.
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> > Regicide is fine. If people who sucked at the game would stop complaining about how bad it is and learn how to get better instead, the world would be a much better place.
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> I think you missed the point entirely. The point is, 343 is too proud to admit that nobody likes Regicide and that Classic FFA would have at least double or more the Regicide population count if it were an actual playlist.
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> Regicide introduces nothing new to the game other than the guy with the most points is easier to find/kill, which is a significant change.
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> It isn’t a matter of getting better at the game, it’s a matter of the game is now coming down to luck/factors out of your control more so than actual gameplay and marksmanship. I don’t want to lose to players that manage to get lucky headshots on the king when he’s no shields and get 3.5x the normal amount of points for it. It’s ridiculous.
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> Your response is ultimately not constructive, it’s the same ‘umad, get better’ response that makes up 90% of posts on this forum.

Thanks for talking for me, your thinking that the Halo community thinks exactly like you makes up 90% of posts on this forum. If you don’t like it, then don’t play it. If you have an idea for another game type, then suggest it. You don’t need to say no one is playing a certain game when you can go online and I have yet to witness a 0 next to any game type. Maybe you just haven’t figured out how to play the game, like maybe those guys let the King build up a score and then sit back and take him out. Maybe you are the newbie that they let kill them so then they can kill you easier and get more points.

> > You want a response? Fine.
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> > Regicide is fine. If people who sucked at the game would stop complaining about how bad it is and learn how to get better instead, the world would be a much better place.
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> I think you missed the point entirely. The point is, 343 is too proud to admit that nobody likes Regicide and that Classic FFA would have at least double or more the Regicide population count if it were an actual playlist.
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> Regicide introduces nothing new to the game other than the guy with the most points is easier to find/kill, which is a significant change.
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> It isn’t a matter of getting better at the game, it’s a matter of the game is now coming down to luck/factors out of your control more so than actual gameplay and marksmanship. I don’t want to lose to players that manage to get lucky headshots on the king when he’s no shields and get 3.5x the normal amount of points for it. It’s ridiculous.
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> Your response is ultimately not constructive, it’s the same ‘umad, get better’ response that makes up 90% of posts on this forum.

  1. Regicide has a decent population. Clearly there ARE people who enjoy it.

  2. We’ve had years to enjoy classic FFA. It’s time for something fresh. I’m sure it’ll be brought in the playlist rotation now and then anyway.

  3. Perhaps my post wasn’t the most constructive, but neither was yours. It’s harder to pull off a great K/D in Regicide compared to the other gametypes, but that’s no excuse to complain that it’s a bad gametype. Changing your tactics might be a good place to start.

  4. As pointed out, do not speak on behalf of the community.

So nobody likes regicide? There seems to be an entire thread filled with people who disagree.

Well I like it.

I agree with OP - at the very least they should have added a normal FFA playlist and removed all of the regicide-related challenges and just let the population decide what is best. They keep saying how they are studying all this population data to make decisions, but then they put in regicide challenges and don’t give us an alternate playlist to choose.

Caboos, Hotrod…I absolutely hate kids like you on forums.

You pick out a single line of his post (“nobody likes Regicide”) and attack that for essentially what boils down to semantics. Obviously the OP doesn’t speak on behalf of the ENTIRE community. Obviously SOME people like Regicide. The OP is making an extremely valid point though. Regicide, currently, is the only FFA we have. It’s also one of the lowest populated playlists. If a standard FFA were put in it’s place, it would have double, maybe even triple the popularity, because Halo fans, by and large, do not like randomness and luck involved in the outcome of their game.

The fact is, Regicide only still exists in this game because of 343’s pride. They created a new gametype, and it didn’t work as well as they thought it would. But instead of admitting their faults, and removing the gametype that very few people play, the insist on pushing it via challenges, and then even creating the team Regicide version (which I actually like). It’s a failed gametype and should be removed/replaced with CLASSIC FFA.

I enjoy it thoroughly. For once there’s more strategy required than running to the centre of the map and hoping to catch a couple players with their shields down

didnt they already bring back the FFA gametype for a while? i didnt see many people playing it

> didnt they already bring back the FFA gametype for a while? i didnt see many people playing it

LOL. Yeah, they brought “FFA Throwback” which was just Oddball and KoTH…two gametypes which are absolutely terrible on FFA. No FFA Slayer…that’s why the playlist had like no one playing it.

I enjoy team regicide greatly. Makes a nice slayer variant, and if you play smart you can use your big red logo to draw over eager beavers into your kill zone. Grenades, plasma or boltshot! Hell even an AR at close range, or have a mate camped crouched by the door way while you bait em.

In saying that, I do miss Juggernaut. Loved going mental with the gravity hammer. So much fun! lol Or scrabbling frantically away from the nutter with the hammer, firing in a last desperate hope of taking him down.

But i’m afraid I must digress OP, everyone seems to actually LIKE regicide. Perhaps you could simply… play another game variant?.. Just a thought.

FFA regicide sucks. Juggernaut was way better. The only bonus you get for being in the lead in FFA Regicide is a marker on your head and an overshield if you magically last long enough.

Team Regicide is alright though, as you actually have guards and you aren’t at a massive disadvantage to everyone else.

Stilll, where is Juggernaut, why was it removed?

S Assassin, what you call randomness and luck, I call skill. It takes a great amount of skill to win a match. This isn’t FFA Slayer and isn’t meant to be a FFA Slayer. Just like CTF isn’t Slayer. You don’t see many people on here complaining that CTF is luck because people with negative K/D spreads win. You just need to learn the gametype and stop trying to change it to your liking. If you don’t like it, then don’t play it. If you do play it, don’t complain when you don’t win because you can’t adapt.