Regarding the Weapon sandbox and its BIG potential

Games Halo Infinite
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Kinda in regards and response to the worry of not seeing good ol’ trusty deathbringers of older weapons returning. brainstorm looming

Yes!..

I say bring in every, yes EVERY Halo weapon, even those from the Halo Wars games for example. I remember that kinda different sniper rifle the Snipers use in Halo Wars 2? More compact, boxy one? And the flamethrower! Good gosh, I would love to toast some fur ( and flood ) with that.

But make it First person and NO movement penality.
Also " upgrades " In the map screen tab? Why not make a more umbrella term like MODIFY just in case we might be not only upgrading, but sidegrading, color changing, style, framework, general looks, shape and heck even change a guns sounds to sound more like older games versions. Just a thought…

Just a few examples. What could we do without Halopedia: Weapons - Halopedia, the Halo wiki

AR from older games, MA5B, MA5C, MA37,
Shotguns ( cant remember their tech names on the go ), Halo CE, Halo 2/ 3 Reaches, Halo 4/ 5
Carbine
Needle Rifle
SAW ( oh please bring this badlad back, I love light machineguns!! drrrrdrdrrdrrr )
Plasma " rfile " ( it nags me, rifling are in barrels for mainly ballaistic weapons, go figure… ) GUN
Plasma Pistol
etcetc

Lets see…

Yeah… You know what the UPGRADE option tab in Halo Infinites map screen could mean?

Say, take the shotguns that in lore/ canon is the SAME but just with a new graphical repain so to speak. Let us change the aspects of them with upgrades/ sidegrades so they mimick the use they had in past games.

You can have the M90 right? It could be upgraded or not, since the only variation is just looks based, the Aniiversary ones as far as I can tell.

NOW

Shotgun - Halopedia, the Halo wiki

The M45. If you find it in Halo Infinite. You could upgrade it to either function more like the M45D or M45E.

You see where Im going? This way, theres a place for any weapon. Sure balancing will be irky, but the point is bring it all in and worry about balancing later.
Just ADD weapons, not remove weapons becasue of “resons” even if there are lore/ canon reason, theres no hindrance to bake in why say in Campaign you find older models of guns or at least alternate ones.

The Halopedia, 343. Use it to get inspiration. I saw an opportunity and brainstorm on the horizon just like snaps that.
Also, lets take the Carbines, Needle rifle, even the storm rifle, plasma repeater and plasma… rifle?
Why remove them if you could at least balance them later? Why not add for choice instead of remove for bewaffelment of… WHY?

The Pulse Carbine seems to be a hybrid of the Storm Rifle and the Carbine, possibly. I like it, could use some work but I like it.
Again:

Banished

  • Banished anti-aircraft cannon (First appearance) - Banished Shade turret (First appearance)

  • Carbine Carbine - Halopedia, the Halo wiki

  • Pulse carbine (First appearance) Seem to me its a sub version of the Carbine, so if we want the baseline Carbine we could modify the pulse one to behave like its parent baseline and cosmetic option could mean the holobits and coloring scheme we see in the games its in.

  • Mangler (First appearance)

  • **Needler****Ah… The Needler.**Type-33 needler - Weapon - Halopedia, the Halo wiki

Look… Theres no actual model numbering or such, just different iterations… Soooo the Type 33 could be " upgraded " to be any iterations before hand in older games but the looks or style/ framework/ shape could be interchangable. Lets say I want a high capacity Type 33 with very fast needle velocity buuut with a Halo 2 A look. At the cost of weaker lock on to soft targets.

<strong>Plasma Pistol Type-25 plasma pistol - Weapon - Halopedia, the Halo wiki</strong>
Same as the case for the Needler. No real model alternatives so to speak, jsut iterations between games. Have the PP modifyable to act like the Halo CE one, or newer iterations or a combination of the Halo 4 looks but with Halo CE/ 2/ Reach finish

  • Ravager (First appearance)

  • Type-1 energy sword****Here have us changing the energy sword handle, and sword shape of the blade to look like Reach, Halo 4/ 5 if you want as an “upgrade”.

  • Type-1 plasma grenade - Type-2 spike grenadeJust a quickdraw tought. I hope if the Plasma rifle/ gun returns. I hope to modify it so it can have the THICKBOI dsig, dsig hard hitting sound it does have in Halo CE… And I think in Reach aswell. The Halo 2 plasma rifle felt pitiful. But that could be due to dual wielding and weakening of base stats due to combine power which would be higher… cough

My favorite weapons are to name a few: the DMR ( I went with at the time underdog sicne the BR were sosooo popular ), SAW, Needler, Needler Rifle, Plasma “rifle”, Plasma Repeater, M45 Reach shotgun etc. Would love to see them in Infinite, if not at launch, at least later on. Just crossing fingers it will be long before the 10 year H: I lifespan.

  1. You have TONS of potential here, use it. Just take it easy alright, breathe and do your best for not only youself, but us fans, and the franchise as a whole. Soooo much lies untapped for potential.

Also, sidenot: All of this I wrote regarding weapons, but heres the thing, expand this potential to say… Vehicles as well! Having Wasps, Falcons, Pelicans, War Pelicans ( halo 4 ), Hornets, Vultures swarm the skies in MP. MMMMMhmm! Potential, perfection!

Now all of this would not be obviously possible to cram in at launch, bearing that in mind. 343 sure as all Halos have their hands full. But step by step I say why not in the grand scheme at things?

Your thoughts?

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Solid effort writing this post and you genuinely seem excited for the upcoming game which is awesome. I wish more people around here shared your enthusiasm.

As for actual discussion, I’m right there with ya, give me everything… And to be honest I think they will. They’ve expressed that Infinite will be the platform for the next decade so I’m confident whatever weapons aren’t included at launch will be included in some kind of update.

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> Solid effort writing this post and you genuinely seem excited for the upcoming game which is awesome. I wish more people around here shared your enthusiasm.
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> As for actual discussion, I’m right there with ya, give me everything… And to be honest I think they will. They’ve expressed that Infinite will be the platform for the next decade so I’m confident whatever weapons aren’t included at launch will be included in some kind of update.

Being an avid forum goer in many a game franchises seas of texts pages, have teached me how to show efforts in my posts. Im far from " expert " in my writing ( not native english not to much of an excuse either, but thanks for the kind words :slight_smile:
Also. Im in a mid 30’s so have learned a thing or two over the years. Knowing people be it from what peeps write on the forums ( not the most human way of interaction, but still ) and meeting folks in real life. We are so, soo different in opinions and seemingly hard baked, one sided rambling and hate/ love DOES come from somewhere, for example.

Take: Sprint, bloom, underdeveloped/ unfairly treated characters in the Halo franchise and so on, and I will try my best to give my thoughts, solutions and make sense of it all. Alternatives, compromises as long as it dosent derive from lore, canon, gameplay etc is very important for me.
Thats why Im trying to be open minded as possible, I want to see solutions in any case of life, digital or real and want to find anything bringing constructivism interwoven and helping out wheres needed.

Its really hard, borderline challenging sometimes when someone can not see or at least try to see different perspectives and I do get frustrated from time to time. But we are different, even here behind stylish forum profiles of anonymity and I fully respect that. Im not trying to convince anyone, just to spread out alternative takes on things. So its up to anyone if they agree or not to what I say/ type.

Constructivism goes a long way, hard to pull of in the short run, extremely benefical i nthe long run.

*Aaaaaaanyway… Derailing my own topic a little, ooopsies…*To topic!
They said ten years, so I kinda rest a bit more assured that they will exploit the potential to its fullest. It would be just “out of this world” odd, bedazzling and just schoked, almost too shocked for words to say the least.

_And now for some amusment, since its weekend and in regards to weapons talk :slight_smile:_I actually had a Halo CE dream once, I think it was in the period between Halo Ce and Halo 2. Its gameplay kinda related bear with me. I guess it was a reaction to massive hype and visions on how Halo 2 weapons would be like. This were before we knew which weapons would be in. Back in 2003? Hmm, kinda flickering memory. Oh well…

So I was right by the life boat on the level " Halo " ( strangely fitting my dream is relating to a spritual reboot based around the second Halo CE level of exploring )
The first one which have a sniper rifle lying on the ground. I vagely remember I, as the Master Chief. Stood by the left side, a little infront of the Warthog woth my two buddy marines in, and I was holding this…
hmm, interesting weapon… Just a reminder, this is even before we knew about any new weapons in Halo 2. And knew nothing about the Covenant Carbine. Its possible I at least, knew the word “Carbine” but thats it.

It looked like the Carbine. BUT.
There was some differences: heres what I remember and this have been strangely consistent over well over a decade. It just STUCK in my mind like a plasma grenade. Few dreams of mine does that.

<strong>Type-51 carbine - Weapon - Halopedia, the Halo wiki</strong> For reference.

1: It was dark red in color palette, over most of the gun. Having yellow glow to the holo parts of it which I think indicated heat buildup. The lenght of the weapon is similar to the carbine but " taller ", it had kinda split, horizontaly down the length from where the purplish parts of the gun started, sandwhiched by the mainly dark red parts of the guns body. and the greyish part was dark purple/ black. Not glowing.
Heres the thing it had kinda scope like attachment too, just above and a bit more infront along the length of the gun. Think DRM like scope just a more rounded Covenant style finish. Cant remember if I looked into it in my dream though. But the hue of the scope, shined kinda pale green.

2: In my dream I actually started shooting at … something, dont know what. and the shots fired form the, lets call it “Crimson Carbine” was kinda bright orange, with a redish inner glow of the half that resembles a bolt/ bulb. The trail of the shots were not as long as say, the Needlers needles and they ended in fainther orange and the core redish hue turned paler to more white. The shots kinda had a small explosion aswell. No idea of fire rate though.

In afterthought I find my, lets say Crimson Carbine dream gun, odd, intriguing and fascinating

I guess the closest to it is:

From Halo 5.

Now Imagine if we could change the guns somewhat in Halo Infinites Forge mode. Color palette, shape ( at least presets ), function, glow, type of ammo.
For the funnzes you know.

So thats that. Its late in the night here in the north. Enough late night rambling however fun and entertaining it is to make posts of this " caliber ".