[REDACTED] you're pretty ignorant.

> I’m just saying… i like halo…and there’s a good chance i might not even buy halo 4. that’s why i’m complaining. I don twant them to ruin what was once a fun game. Halo will never be Halo 2 ever again…not even Halo 2 with no button combos. Even that would top Halo 3 or Reach, but no it will never happen.

Sorry but it sucks to be you then. That goes for anyone that can’t appreciate what they’re getting.

Halo will never be Halo 2 again.

Good. Not in a negative way but Halo 2 had it’s chance, made it’s mark and now we should move on to bigger and better things.

When it comes to remakes, most old school fans overly criticize it anyway b/c it’s a fact you cannot strike lightning twice. You can come close but you’re not living out the Glory Days again. That’s why they’re relegated to The Glory Days. Don’t ruin that experience.

Good quote about Extinction and Evolution from our good friend Dr. Ian Malcom

“This isn’t some species that was obliterated by deforestation, or, or the building of a dam. Dinosaurs had their shot, and nature selected them for extinction.”

The Halo formula worked and had it’s chance. So does this one. Just not for you. Move on.

> > Just to get this straight. I’m all for change…good change…not…bad change.
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> Well, YOU don’t decide the quality. The collective community does and that results in sales and rating. Reach wasn’t lacking anywhere as near as bad as you claim it did.
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> You know what they do to a product that is “broken” and “Faulty”? They scrap or recall them.
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> In games, they stop releasing the product and shut servers down.
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> Hasn’t come anywhere close to happening for Reach yet.

All i have to say is reach compared to black ops…at least black ops kept 90% of its fans lol. They proved that the type of change Reach had was drastic and bad. People want a Halo game not a whole other game. If you want a new game go play something else but dont ruin halo for its true fans.

No but seriously they should focus more on balancing weapons and maps around sprint…

While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.

> > > Just to get this straight. I’m all for change…good change…not…bad change.
> >
> > Well, YOU don’t decide the quality. The collective community does and that results in sales and rating. Reach wasn’t lacking anywhere as near as bad as you claim it did.
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> > You know what they do to a product that is “broken” and “Faulty”? They scrap or recall them.
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> > In games, they stop releasing the product and shut servers down.
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> > Hasn’t come anywhere close to happening for Reach yet.
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> All i have to say is reach compared to black ops…at least black ops kept 90% of its fans lol. They proved that the type of change Reach had was drastic and bad. People want a Halo game not a whole other game. If you want a new game go play something else but dont ruin halo for its true fans.
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> No but seriously they should focus more on balancing weapons and maps around sprint…

Black Ops didn’t change a lot, it was just a bad game.

> <mark>All i have to say is reach compared to black ops</mark>…at least black ops kept 90% of its fans lol. They proved that the type of change Reach had was drastic and bad. People want a Halo game not a whole other game. If you want a new game go play something else but dont ruin halo for its true fans.
>
> No but seriously they should focus more on balancing weapons and maps around sprint…

You’ve said all you have to say and it goes nowhere except to the realms of “ME ME ME”. It’s very present in the entire thread and not just the OP.

Again, thankfully, Halo isn’t built around “What you think.” b/c it’s clearly one sided.

They’re giving the people what they want. I know this b/c the games are being CONSTANTLY played. It’s fact. Sitting right in front of me.

With your posting, there is no “But seriously” b/c you keep contradicting yourself with selfishness and personal preference.

In all seriousness - Go play Black Ops then. It’s got everything you apparently want. Don’t tell me to go play something else when I easily can BUT still enjoy Halo. You’re not enjoying Halo.

Who’s the one that should honestly “go play something else”?

> While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.

One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.

honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.

That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.

> > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
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> One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
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> honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
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> That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.

…You realize that quote notates on the test of time? It’s not going to happen “Day One”.

You keep digging your own hole. Quit while you’re ahead.

> > <mark>All i have to say is reach compared to black ops</mark>…at least black ops kept 90% of its fans lol. They proved that the type of change Reach had was drastic and bad. People want a Halo game not a whole other game. If you want a new game go play something else but dont ruin halo for its true fans.
> >
> > No but seriously they should focus more on balancing weapons and maps around sprint…
>
> You’ve said all you have to say and it goes nowhere except to the realms of “ME ME ME”. It’s very present in the entire thread and not just the OP.
>
> Again, thankfully, Halo isn’t built around “What you think.” b/c it’s clearly one sided.
>
> They’re giving the people what they want. I know this b/c the games are being CONSTANTLY played. It’s fact. Sitting right in front of me.
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>
> With your posting, there is no “But seriously” b/c you keep contradicting yourself with selfishness and personal preference.
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>
> In all seriousness - Go play Black Ops then. It’s got everything you apparently want. Don’t tell me to go play something else when I easily can BUT still enjoy Halo. You’re not enjoying Halo.
>
> Who’s the one that should honestly “go play something else”?

OBviously you don’t care about halo’s future…if you want it to be so differentfrom the previous titles.

> > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
>
> One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
>
> honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
>
> <mark>That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.</mark>

How does that statement have ANY bearing on the other Halos?

Wow. lol

> > > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
> >
> > One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
> >
> > honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
> >
> > <mark>That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.</mark>
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> How does that statement have ANY bearing on the other Halos?

Just knowing he has been the one behind the multiplayer. The multiplayer hasn’t been fun since Halo 3. Even then it got boring fast. It was like a downgrade from Halo 2. They are really good at downgrading…ahem…theatre mode in reach. no 1-50 ranks.

> > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
>
>
> One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
>
> honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
>
> That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.

At bold

He never said anything on random spawning weapons. the stupid article said that. It has never been confirmed or denied so no one knows.

Honestly

Amazing players are going to destroy bad players, even with this random element, We did it in bloom and we will do it do it again with that “system” (hope to god its false)

You can not limit player skill, No matter how hard someone tries.

> OBviously you don’t care about halo’s future…if you want it to be so differentfrom the previous titles.

I care b/c I still play it. It’s not broken b/c “I’m not getting my way”. I support and appreciate a working and enjoyable title.

I’m not the one slamming one of the big wigs in the industry b/c of a few evolving changes over time.

> > > <mark>All i have to say is reach compared to black ops</mark>…at least black ops kept 90% of its fans lol. They proved that the type of change Reach had was drastic and bad. People want a Halo game not a whole other game. If you want a new game go play something else but dont ruin halo for its true fans.
> > >
> > > No but seriously they should focus more on balancing weapons and maps around sprint…
> >
> > You’ve said all you have to say and it goes nowhere except to the realms of “ME ME ME”. It’s very present in the entire thread and not just the OP.
> >
> > Again, thankfully, Halo isn’t built around “What you think.” b/c it’s clearly one sided.
> >
> > They’re giving the people what they want. I know this b/c the games are being CONSTANTLY played. It’s fact. Sitting right in front of me.
> >
> >
> > With your posting, there is no “But seriously” b/c you keep contradicting yourself with selfishness and personal preference.
> >
> >
> > In all seriousness - Go play Black Ops then. It’s got everything you apparently want. Don’t tell me to go play something else when I easily can BUT still enjoy Halo. You’re not enjoying Halo.
> >
> > Who’s the one that should honestly “go play something else”?
>
> OBviously you don’t care about halo’s future…if you want it to be so differentfrom the previous titles.

Halo 2 was radically different from Halo 1 and look how well that game did. Halo 3 changed again and was a bigger success.

> OBviously you don’t care about halo’s future…if you want it to be so differentfrom the previous titles.

Cool false assumptions bro.

> > > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
> >
> >
> > One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
> >
> > honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
> >
> > That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.
>
> At bold
>
> He never said anything on random spawning weapons. the stupid article said that. It has never been confirmed or denied so no one knows.
>
> Honestly
>
> Amazing players are going to destroy bad players, even with this random element, We did it in bloom and we will do it do it again with that “system” (hope to god its false)
>
> You can not limit player skill, No matter how hard someone tries.

It’s just a little unfair since everyone with have an equal cahnce to learn the maps.

> > I think Frankie and the rest of 343 Industries knows more about making a good Halo game than you do, just saying.
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> i bet reach is ur favourite halo lol. i really dont think so since they lost half their fans with reach.

Good, Let the Butthurt flow through you.

> > OBviously you don’t care about halo’s future…if you want it to be so differentfrom the previous titles.
>
> Cool false assumptions bro.

You most likely just started playing halo during reach…or you’re trolling. maybe h3 lol

> > > > While I agree with you on Sprint, the title is a little too harsh. If they add new things great. I’m hoping that there will be a section where ‘classic’ Halo (Halo 2, Halo 3) can still be played.
> > >
> > > One fo the reasons i called him ignorant was because of his comment about power weapons respawning at random times so the experienced players wont dominate.
> > >
> > > honestly…who the hell i sgoing to be experienced at halo 4? its a completely new game…especially maps …everyone has an equal opportunity to learn it.
> > >
> > > <mark>That whole comment he said nearly made me despise every halo game ever made.</mark>
> >
> > How does that statement have ANY bearing on the other Halos?
>
> Just knowing he has been the one behind the multiplayer. The multiplayer hasn’t been fun since Halo 3. Even then it got boring fast. It was like a downgrade from Halo 2. They are really good at downgrading…ahem…theatre mode in reach. no 1-50 ranks.

Frankie has nothing to do with the multiplayer, in any Halo game. At Bungie he was the Community Manager, and at 343 he’s the Franchise Development Director. Neither of these jobs have any sort of input toward multiplayer functions. He may provide input, be he does not drive innovation or direction in terms of gameplay.

> > Just to get this straight. I’m all for change…good change…not…bad change.
>
> Well, YOU don’t decide the quality. The collective community does and that results in sales and rating. Reach wasn’t lacking anywhere as near as bad as you claim it did.
>
>
>
> You know what they do to a product that is “broken” and “Faulty”? They scrap or recall them.
>
> In games, they stop releasing the product and shut servers down.
>
>
>
> Hasn’t come anywhere close to happening for Reach yet.

Quality is an interesting concept. A person can’t simoly decide what is good quality and what isn’t. Judging the quality of a product always reguires an universal perspective. For example, when it comes to games, you may ask: is the story good? Does it look good? Does it play well and if it does, does it has a learning curve? All these are perspectives that can be judged objectively, at least to some degree. Thus, the community doesn’t decide the quality of a product. No matter how much you want, you can’t call a game like Big Rigs a quality product, no matter how much you wanted.