At the end of the campaign the didact quotes “The Reclimation has already begun, and we are hopeless to stop it.”
Reclimation means to restore something to its previous state.
At first I thought he meant to return forerunners to there former golry and take control of the galaxy again thus restoring things back to the way they were.
But then I thought the didact said “We” meaning everyone including himself.
And even he is hopeless to stop it. Could he mean the precursors? The Precursors were the first to dominate the galaxy the original rulers that created forerunners and humans.
Does this mean the precursors are coming back? The Reclimation being them returning and restoring how things used to be? With Precursors ontop?
Please note not all precursors are dead some escaped when the forerunners attacked them and others became powder to be restored later but was turned into the flood.
Precursors were teir 0 being trancended being able to travel between galaxys so its not crazy to believe some escaped and repopulated.
<mark>This is all just theory take it with a grain of salt. Also note precursors favor humans as the rightful owners of the mantel and dont want to kill them.</mark>
I for one would like to see some precursor technology not just forerunner.
What do you guys and girls think?
Well, the Precursors, technically, aren’t really coming back since they are the Flood. However, the Flood will return. As far as the Ur-Didact is concerned though, he is talking about how Reclaimation, you know, us being Reclaimers and all. He was driven insane by the Flood and his prejudices against humanity exacerbated, he doesn’t want any species to top the Forerunners.
> Well, the Precursors, technically, aren’t really coming back since they are the Flood. However, the Flood will return. As far as the Ur-Didact is concerned though, he is talking about how Reclaimation, you know, us being Reclaimers and all. He was driven insane by the Flood and his prejudices against humanity exacerbated, he doesn’t want any species to top the Forerunners.
Yes the flood are orginally precursors but only some.
Some precursors traveled away from the galaxy no one knows what happened to them.
But the others stayed behind and turned there entire bodys into a powdered form later to be restored after the war settled down.
This powder became decease prone and the humans found the precursor ship the powder was on and they released it. Which later evolved into being the flood.
So there are still normal precursors that arent the flood that still retain there technology just nobody knows were they went.
> Yes the flood are orginally precursors but only some.
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> Some precursors traveled away from the galaxy no one knows what happened to them.
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> But the others stayed behind and turned there entire bodys into a powdered form later to be restored after the war settled down.
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> This powder became decease prone and the humans found the precursor ship the powder was on and they released it. Which later evolved into being the flood.
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> So there are still normal precursors that arent the flood that still retain there technology just nobody knows were they went.
Silentium implies that only the Primordial was left intact, the ancient Forerunners made short work of the ones who made it outside the galaxy and those they missed turned into said powder.
The precursors arent originally flood they were like Humans and Forerunners they made technology built worlds created ground breaking slips space travel had star ships ect.
Even able to move entire planets they once held the mantel but felt there time had come to pass it on.
They made the forerunners first. They failed the test.
Then they created the humans they passed the test.
They wanted to eliminate the forerunners but the forerunners didnt want that so they fought the precursors and took the mantel of responsability.
> The precursors arent originally flood they were like Humans and Forerunners they made technology built worlds created ground breaking slips space travel had star ships ect.
That and they are older than the Universe itself.
> Even able to move entire planets they once held the mantel but felt there time had come to pass it on.
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> They made the forerunners first. They failed the test.
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> Then they created the humans they passed the test.
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> They wanted to eliminate the forerunners but the forerunners didnt want that so they fought the precursors and took the mantel of responsability.
Actually, Silentium implies the conflict was one-sided, the Forerunners were upset that the Mantle was being passed over to humans so they sought to exterminate the Precursors. Enraged, the surviving Precursors turned themselves into the powder which would become the Flood. Only the Primordial survived, but he would change into a Gravemind.
Its also kinda sad. Some belive the precursors let themselves be destroyed which would explain why the forerunners won.
They being at teir 1 and precursors at teir 0 but the precursors were belived to be very small in number.
To me, it meant that humanity was on its way to returning to its Ancient Empire level.
And if that’s the case, then the Didact has plenty of reason to be concerned. TO hear the H4 Librarian tell it, the real reason the Forerunners collapsed was due to not the Flood but Ancient Humans.
> > Yes the flood are orginally precursors but only some.
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> > Some precursors traveled away from the galaxy no one knows what happened to them.
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> > But the others stayed behind and turned there entire bodys into a powdered form later to be restored after the war settled down.
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> > This powder became decease prone and the humans found the precursor ship the powder was on and they released it. Which later evolved into being the flood.
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> > So there are still normal precursors that arent the flood that still retain there technology just nobody knows were they went.
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> Silentium implies that only the Primordial was left intact, the ancient Forerunners made short work of the ones who made it outside the galaxy and those they missed turned into said powder.
I’d assume that the Precursors let the Forerunners “think” that they destroyed them; but in the truth, the Precursors were manipulating events in the Galaxy like a match of Starcraft… for their amusement…
Life, evolution, and intelligence is a game for the Precursors. They create countless ecosystems on a Galactic scale, then they control everything that happens to it.
Even time is under their control, they can pause it, record it, or transform it. I mean honestly, how do you think the Precursors existed for One Hundred Billion Years?
> I’d assume that the Precursors let the Forerunners “think” that they destroyed them; but in the truth, the Precursors were manipulating events in the Galaxy like a match of Starcraft… for their amusement…
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> Life, evolution, and intelligence is a game for the Precursors. They create countless ecosystems on a Galactic scale, then they control everything that happens to it.
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> <mark>Even time is under their control, they can pause it, record it, or transform it. I mean honestly, how do you think the Precursors existed for One Hundred Billion Years?</mark>
True, but they are still quite mortal.
> > > Yes the flood are orginally precursors but only some.
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> > > Some precursors traveled away from the galaxy no one knows what happened to them.
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> > > But the others stayed behind and turned there entire bodys into a powdered form later to be restored after the war settled down.
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> > > This powder became decease prone and the humans found the precursor ship the powder was on and they released it. Which later evolved into being the flood.
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> > > So there are still normal precursors that arent the flood that still retain there technology just nobody knows were they went.
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> > Silentium implies that only the Primordial was left intact, the ancient Forerunners made short work of the ones who made it outside the galaxy and those they missed turned into said powder.
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> I’d assume that the Precursors let the Forerunners “think” that they destroyed them; but in the truth, the Precursors were manipulating events in the Galaxy like a match of Starcraft… for their amusement…
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> Life, evolution, and intelligence is a game for the Precursors. They create countless ecosystems on a Galactic scale, then they control everything that happens to it.
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> Even time is under their control, they can pause it, record it, or transform it. I mean honestly, how do you think the Precursors existed for One Hundred Billion Years?
I’ve not read most of the books, but I like the sound of this idea.
Decepticon, you are wrong.
The Precursors are not all dead and gone. IT is directly stated in Silentium that “some went dormant” others became powder that became the flood. Not to mention Precursors exist in many different realities and countless galaxies throughout the cosmos. The Forerunners were able to kill/ drive off the majority of those in charge of the Milky way and Path Kethona. That hardly encompasses the entirety of the cosmos.
Even still, the Forerunners were not entirely successful in their campaign of extermination. In Primodium the Primordial states that some Precursors fled beyond Forerunner reach, “creation continued.” Creation could not continue if all Precursors were destroyed or converted to flood form, clearly there are Precursors out there lurking in the shadows. It is further elaborated on in Silentium. The Gravemind states to the Ur-Didact that some Precursors survived. Of the surviving population of Precursors some went dormant, others converted themselves into powder that would reconstitute its original form, over time the powder degraded and was corrupted, becoming the flood. That explains one half of the surviving Precursors, the other went dormant, either in suspended animation or fled somehwere to observe and wait for the time to return. What the intentions of the “dormant” Precursors are at this time is unknown.
> Decepticon, you are wrong.
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> The Precursors are not all dead and gone. IT is directly stated in Silentium that “some went dormant” others became powder that became the flood. <mark>Not to mention Precursors exist in many different realities and countless galaxies throughout the cosmos.</mark> The Forerunners were able to kill/ drive off the majority of those in charge of the Milky way and Path Kethona. That hardly encompasses the entirety of the cosmos.
I don’t know about that, if so then the Forerunners should never have been able to wipe them out as badly as they did. We really have no idea how many there were. I’ll grant that some might be alive, but I believe it was implied that those who went dormant became powder and that the powder proved defective. Then we have to consider that the Primordial was the last Precursor, it could’ve lied I supposed but I see no reason to.
> Even still, the Forerunners were not entirely successful in their campaign of extermination. In Primodium the Primordial states that some Precursors fled beyond Forerunner reach, “creation continued.” Creation could not continue if all Precursors were destroyed or converted to flood form, clearly there are Precursors out there lurking in the shadows.
Could the creation not be the Flood? It was created from the defective powder.
> It is further elaborated on in Silentium. The Gravemind states to the Ur-Didact that some Precursors survived. Of the surviving population of Precursors some went dormant, others converted themselves into powder that would reconstitute its original form, over time the powder degraded and was corrupted, becoming the flood. That explains one half of the surviving Precursors, the other went dormant, either in suspended animation or fled somehwere to observe and wait for the time to return. What the intentions of the “dormant” Precursors are at this time is unknown.
What makes you think it was half of the survivors became powder?
I would love to see the precursor (the real ones, not flood) come back into the milky way galaxy and the Orion complex, but the question would be “would they be an enemy or ally to humans?”
> I would love to see the precursor (the real ones, not flood) come back into the milky way galaxy and the Orion complex, but the question would be “would they be an enemy or ally to humans?”
Considering that they say all life will experience pain and suffering, paraphrasing of course, I’d lean towards enemy.
Forerunners only wiped out those that were in the milky way and Path Kethona. The Precursors are truly transcendent.
Lets not forget until Halo 4 it was believed that all forerunners in the universe had become extinct, I think clearly that has been proven untrue.
The Precursors are the “gods” of the halo universe. To believe that an entire species that far surpassed anything that we can comprehend would be so easily eradicated is short sighted.
The flood cannot perpetuate creation, they are the anithesis of creation, they are stagnation and decay. They are slate at which the Precursors will wipe the wayward Milky Way clean with. The Gravemind himself states to the Ur-Didact that even he can’t comprehend the true nature of the Precursors.
There are Precursors out there, dormant and otherwise that will rear their heads at some point in the future. To introduce a force of nature such as the Precusors only to brush them aside and say oh yeah they are all flood now is just disappointing and, Greg Bear is a far better writer than that, also so is 343i…hopefully. Bear left hints throughout the series at there being far more lurking behind the scenes than just the flood. The Primordial was not the last, just the last as far as Forerunner were concerned. “Most were extinguished…some fled beyond your reach, creation continued.”
Lets not forget someone had to load and program the ships full of Precursor powder on their course towards the Milky Way.
> Forerunners only wiped out those that were in the milky way and Path Kethona. The Precursors are truly transcendent.
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> <mark>Lets not forget until Halo 4 it was believed that all forerunners in the universe had become extinct</mark>, I think clearly that has been proven untrue.
Unless you played Halo 3 and read those Terminals. Or the Encyclopedia.
> The Precursors are the “gods” of the halo universe. To believe that an entire species that far surpassed anything that we can comprehend would be so easily eradicated is short sighted.
They were still mortal was was made evident by their slaughter.
> The flood cannot perpetuate creation, they are the anithesis of creation, they are stagnation and decay. They are slate at which the Precursors will wipe the wayward Milky Way clean with. The Gravemind himself states to the Ur-Didact that even he can’t comprehend the true nature of the Precursors.
So then is there not something about the Flood we may not comprehend?
> There are Precursors out there, dormant and otherwise that will rear their heads at some point in the future. To introduce a force of nature such as the Precusors only to brush them aside and say oh yeah they are all flood now is just disappointing and, Greg Bear is a far better writer than that, also so is 343i…hopefully. Bear left hints throughout the series at there being far more lurking behind the scenes than just the flood.
Just because they aren’t physical doesn’t mean they are brushed aside. Their mystery and their impact have impacted nearly every event thus far.
The Primordial was not the last, just the last as far as Forerunner
> were concerned. “Most were extinguished…some fled beyond your reach, <mark>creation continued.”</mark>
Again, Flood.
I don’t believe the Precursors are mortal in terms that you or I can fathom. I will do my best to paraphrase the quote, as my book is at home, and I sadly am at work. Basically they say that they exist in multiple forms across multiple realities both Physical and metaphysical. They have evolved and devolved at will times beyond counting, die out only to be reborn into new forms of their choosing.
Also they allowed themselves to be destroyed by the forerunner, so that they could study and learn from the sheer destruction and savagery that their creation was capable of, as such notions were alien to them. Considering the mantle was/is benevolent preservation and harmony of all life in the galaxy.
I believe we will see a Precursor in their true form at some point in a future title. Perhaps they will calm the rage of their flood form brethern.
Been awhile since I have had a good Halo debate 