Reasons Why We/i Want To "Show Off"[1-50/100]

Games Other Halo
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Whenever anyone brings up 1-50 and it being visible in game, it is almost certain someone will comment calling the person a egotistical individual who fails at most things in life.

While this may remain true for some, I took a minute to ponder, and I have decided that I want 1-50 for one main reason;

I like to notice progress and improvement in my invested time in a game. If I am going to play a game for hours on end, I would hope I am not stuck in rut of skill. Not that I doubt my abilities, but a ordinary progression system doesn’t show improvement.

On a second note, what’s so wrong with me wanting to show others how good I am? You live in a world that is such, and will always be so. If you can’t keep up, you get left behind.

Other reasons;

-We like to know what type of players we are going up against other than by K/D.

-It looks cool.

-Knowledge of how our teammates might perform. -yeskezspanem

-People don’t try to play slayer in an objective game type, and actually care about the win.-SP1NN1NGKNELB0W

Downsides that most would cope with;

-Boosting/Cheating

Sidenotes/Solutions

-Boosting can be avoided in one simple way - Rank decay. If you don’t play enough your highest skill will slowly decrease, it’d make it much harder to sell 50s because the worse players won’t be able to keep up with this high rank, either by playing and getting wrecked or not playing the playlist where that rank was achieved. League of Legends does this and it works perfectly. -Submitted by
Faroe BrooooN E

-Rank Range-Must be level 11 to play with levels 11-20. etc etc. Credit to: Halo 4 1-50 Ranged Ranking System

-Let players choose to show their number rank or not(only in social playlists)
-krymsonhalo

-A simple filter which would let others, friends only, or nobody see your 1-50?
-Michael Knight2

Ways to Support

Read this thread; Official 1-50 Supporting Thread

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You’re only as good as your connection.

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I like to know when im going up against players of equal skill.

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> You’re only as good as your connection.

This is somewhat true, and can be limiting, but if my sister got on and played she would drop my k/d by .8.

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> I like to know when im going up against players of equal skill.

A valid point, I will add this.

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I just want to show it off because it looks cool.

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> I just want to show it off because it looks cool.

Anything is valid, and I don’t see what’s wrong with strutting.

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I’d rather it go to 100.

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> I’d rather it go to 100.

Oh hey what’s up stealth. :).

That is something I wouldn’t be against trying.

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> Whenever anyone brings up 1-50 and it being visible in game, it is almost certain someone will comment calling the person a egotistical individual who fails at most things in life.
>
> While this may remain true for some, I took a minute to ponder, and I have decided that I want 1-50 for one main reason;
>
> I like to notice progress and improvement in my invested time in a game. If I am going to play a game for hours on end, I would hope I am not stuck in rut of skill. Not that I doubt my abilities, but a ordinary progression system doesn’t show improvement.
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> <mark>On a second note, what’s so wrong with me wanting to show others how good I am? You live in a world that is such, and will always be so. If you can’t keep up, you get left behind.</mark>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Other reasons;
>
> -<mark>We like to know what type of players we are going up against other than by K/D</mark>.

  1. You can show others how good you are in performance, not a pixel number. If the original 1-50 system was implemented there will most defiantly be an influx in cheating and boosting just like Halo 3 and 2. It would be much better to just have it on waypoint and it wouldn’t stop cheating altogether but wont be as bad as it was in the other games.
    Hopefully it isn’t going to be ELO based, just Player performance so it shows your own skill not your teams skill.

Pretty much showing off a level doesn’t show your full potential or your actual skill since it was earned through just winning and not your personal performance. You could just have gotten back packed all the way up to a 50 easily. So showing it off is just stupid unless you are the one who earned it which is where personal performance ranking comes into play. I remember times in Halo where there were players that literally didn’t help the team and got ranked for it, this is an issue and it came with that system.

  1. Your K/d doesn’t define how good you are because everyone does have good days or bad, and a level wouldn’t show it for that reason and because people could just cheat and be a high level or they could be carried/backpacked up to high levels or even make multiple accounts just like Halo 3 and you could get pared with someone that is a 20 on one account but a 50 on another so this isn’t a good reason either. You really don’t know what players you will be facing until after the game has begun and you have seen first hand their actual true skill based on their performance.

It’s nice for once where someone can state their opinion instead of flaming the person after that said person disagrees with them.

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> > Whenever anyone brings up 1-50 and it being visible in game, it is almost certain someone will comment calling the person a egotistical individual who fails at most things in life.
> >
> > While this may remain true for some, I took a minute to ponder, and I have decided that I want 1-50 for one main reason;
> >
> > I like to notice progress and improvement in my invested time in a game. If I am going to play a game for hours on end, I would hope I am not stuck in rut of skill. Not that I doubt my abilities, but a ordinary progression system doesn’t show improvement.
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > <mark>On a second note, what’s so wrong with me wanting to show others how good I am? You live in a world that is such, and will always be so. If you can’t keep up, you get left behind.</mark>
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Other reasons;
> >
> > -<mark>We like to know what type of players we are going up against other than by K/D</mark>.
>
> 1. You can show others how good you are in performance, not a pixel number. If the original 1-50 system was implemented there will most defiantly be an influx in cheating and boosting just like Halo 3 and 2. It would be much better to just have it on waypoint and it would stop cheating altogether but wont be as bad as it was in the other games.
> Hopefully it isn’t going to be ELO based, just Player performance so it shows your own skill not your teams skill.
>
> Pretty much showing off a level doesn’t show your full potential or your actual skill since it was earned through just winning and not your personal performance. You could just have gotten back packed all the way up to a 50 easily. So showing it off is just stupid unless you are the one who earned it which is where personal performance ranking comes into play. I remember times in Halo where there were players that literally didn’t help the team and got ranked for it, this is an issue and it came with that system.
>
> 2. Your K/d doesn’t define how good you are because everyone does have good days or bad, and a level wouldn’t show it for that reason and because people could just cheat and be a high level or they could be carried/backpacked up to high levels or even make multiple accounts just like Halo 3 and you could get pared with someone that is a 20 on one account but a 50 on another so this isn’t a good reason either. You really don’t know what players you will be facing until after the game has begun and you have seen first hand their actual true skill based on their performance.
>
> It’s nice for once where someone can state their opinion where they after someone disagrees they tell them that they are just bad and they have self esteem issues so thats the reason they don;t want it but that isn’t true at all.

I realize that cheating/boosting would almost be inevitable, but I am willing to put up with it.

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> > > Whenever anyone brings up 1-50 and it being visible in game, it is almost certain someone will comment calling the person a egotistical individual who fails at most things in life.
> > >
> > > While this may remain true for some, I took a minute to ponder, and I have decided that I want 1-50 for one main reason;
> > >
> > > I like to notice progress and improvement in my invested time in a game. If I am going to play a game for hours on end, I would hope I am not stuck in rut of skill. Not that I doubt my abilities, but a ordinary progression system doesn’t show improvement.
> > >
> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > <mark>On a second note, what’s so wrong with me wanting to show others how good I am? You live in a world that is such, and will always be so. If you can’t keep up, you get left behind.</mark>
> > >
> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Other reasons;
> > >
> > > -<mark>We like to know what type of players we are going up against other than by K/D</mark>.
> >
> > 1. You can show others how good you are in performance, not a pixel number. If the original 1-50 system was implemented there will most defiantly be an influx in cheating and boosting just like Halo 3 and 2. It would be much better to just have it on waypoint and it would stop cheating altogether but wont be as bad as it was in the other games.
> > Hopefully it isn’t going to be ELO based, just Player performance so it shows your own skill not your teams skill.
> >
> > Pretty much showing off a level doesn’t show your full potential or your actual skill since it was earned through just winning and not your personal performance. You could just have gotten back packed all the way up to a 50 easily. So showing it off is just stupid unless you are the one who earned it which is where personal performance ranking comes into play. I remember times in Halo where there were players that literally didn’t help the team and got ranked for it, this is an issue and it came with that system.
> >
> > 2. Your K/d doesn’t define how good you are because everyone does have good days or bad, and a level wouldn’t show it for that reason and because people could just cheat and be a high level or they could be carried/backpacked up to high levels or even make multiple accounts just like Halo 3 and you could get pared with someone that is a 20 on one account but a 50 on another so this isn’t a good reason either. You really don’t know what players you will be facing until after the game has begun and you have seen first hand their actual true skill based on their performance.
> >
> > It’s nice for once where someone can state their opinion where they after someone disagrees they tell them that they are just bad and they have self esteem issues so thats the reason they don;t want it but that isn’t true at all.
>
> I realize that cheating/boosting would almost be inevitable, but I am willing to put up with it.

I am not willing to put up with it and I know others are tired of the cheaters as well, 343 wouldn’t want to see it in their game nor would MS probably because in H3 people sold high level tags for money which is against MS’s Terms of service.
It’s fine if you don’t mind but I don’t want to see it ever happen again like how bad it was in H2 and 3, but obviously people will still cheat but not as bad. I’d also prefer being ranked on my personal performance not my team’s performance it is more rewarding. I’d also believe people would rather see this to because bragging about a level based on team performance is nothing wouldn’t you rather show off something you personally earned rather than based by winning the game only.

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> > > > Whenever anyone brings up 1-50 and it being visible in game, it is almost certain someone will comment calling the person a egotistical individual who fails at most things in life.
> > > >
> > > > While this may remain true for some, I took a minute to ponder, and I have decided that I want 1-50 for one main reason;
> > > >
> > > > I like to notice progress and improvement in my invested time in a game. If I am going to play a game for hours on end, I would hope I am not stuck in rut of skill. Not that I doubt my abilities, but a ordinary progression system doesn’t show improvement.
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > <mark>On a second note, what’s so wrong with me wanting to show others how good I am? You live in a world that is such, and will always be so. If you can’t keep up, you get left behind.</mark>
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Other reasons;
> > > >
> > > > -<mark>We like to know what type of players we are going up against other than by K/D</mark>.
> > >
> > > 1. You can show others how good you are in performance, not a pixel number. If the original 1-50 system was implemented there will most defiantly be an influx in cheating and boosting just like Halo 3 and 2. It would be much better to just have it on waypoint and it would stop cheating altogether but wont be as bad as it was in the other games.
> > > Hopefully it isn’t going to be ELO based, just Player performance so it shows your own skill not your teams skill.
> > >
> > > Pretty much showing off a level doesn’t show your full potential or your actual skill since it was earned through just winning and not your personal performance. You could just have gotten back packed all the way up to a 50 easily. So showing it off is just stupid unless you are the one who earned it which is where personal performance ranking comes into play. I remember times in Halo where there were players that literally didn’t help the team and got ranked for it, this is an issue and it came with that system.
> > >
> > > 2. Your K/d doesn’t define how good you are because everyone does have good days or bad, and a level wouldn’t show it for that reason and because people could just cheat and be a high level or they could be carried/backpacked up to high levels or even make multiple accounts just like Halo 3 and you could get pared with someone that is a 20 on one account but a 50 on another so this isn’t a good reason either. You really don’t know what players you will be facing until after the game has begun and you have seen first hand their actual true skill based on their performance.
> > >
> > > It’s nice for once where someone can state their opinion where they after someone disagrees they tell them that they are just bad and they have self esteem issues so thats the reason they don;t want it but that isn’t true at all.
> >
> > I realize that cheating/boosting would almost be inevitable, but I am willing to put up with it.

Did you mean to say something? lol.

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Boosting can be avoided in one simple way - Rank decay. If you don’t play enough your highest skill will slowly decrease, it’d make it much harder to sell 50s because the worse players won’t be able to keep up with this high rank, either by playing and getting wrecked or not playing the playlist where that rank was achieved. League of Legends does this and it works perfectly.

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> Boosting can be avoided in one simple way - Rank decay. If you don’t play enough your highest skill will slowly decrease, it’d make it much harder to sell 50s because the worse players won’t be able to keep up with this high rank, either by playing and getting wrecked or not playing the playlist where that rank was achieved. League of Legends does this and it works perfectly.

This is ingenious, thank you so much, adding to post.

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> > I’d rather it go to 100.
>
> Oh hey what’s up stealth. :).
>
> That is something I wouldn’t be against trying.

Hey what’s up.

Yeah if it goes to 100 it will take longer to achieve and not as easy. So I think that would be better.

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> Boosting can be avoided in one simple way - Rank decay. If you don’t play enough your highest skill will slowly decrease, it’d make it much harder to sell 50s because the worse players won’t be able to keep up with this high rank, either by playing and getting wrecked or not playing the playlist where that rank was achieved. League of Legends does this and it works perfectly.

There will be problems with this I could see it and then more people would complain, boosting can never be avoided, maybe tag selling but not boosting. LoL isn’t a FPS Game.

And I did say something I had to edit it because my webpage failed to connect, look back up at it I wrote something there.

This mechanic would help when people got their 50’s in the other games they would stop playing it because they were afraid to lose it if they played and lost even though it still shows your 50 in the player card. It could make people play on their 50’s to keep it but I can see some problems with it as well.

If the system is player performance It would be much better than Halo 3’s ELO system because then it will make people actually try more to get their rank higher than letting their team carry them or back pack them to the top. You could also show it off better because You actually Earned your rank not by winning by personal player performance and how good you did in each game. similar to Reach’s arena but better Not based on weekly progression but every game you play it calculates your skill level on how well you play.

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> > > I’d rather it go to 100.
> >
> > Oh hey what’s up stealth. :).
> >
> > That is something I wouldn’t be against trying.
>
> Hey what’s up.
>
> Yeah if it goes to 100 it will take longer to achieve and not as easy. So I think that would be better.

Not much dude. :P.

Yeah, fair enough dude. Would allow for better ranking as well.

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> > Boosting can be avoided in one simple way - Rank decay. If you don’t play enough your highest skill will slowly decrease, it’d make it much harder to sell 50s because the worse players won’t be able to keep up with this high rank, either by playing and getting wrecked or not playing the playlist where that rank was achieved. League of Legends does this and it works perfectly.
>
> There will be problems with this I could see it and then more people would complain, boosting can never be avoided, maybe tag selling but not boosting. LoL isn’t a FPS Game.
>
> And I did say something I had to edit it because my webpage failed to connect, look back up at it I wrote something there.

Yes, but rank decay would help. Even with a team not everyone can achieve the highest skill, it still takes effort, or else everyone would be a 50.

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Support a 1-50 full skilled ranking system here - https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst135168_1-50-Competitive-Skill-Rank-Official-Thread.aspx