Reasons why Spartan Ops is utterly terrible.

Plays SpOps Solo on Legendary, complains that hardest difficulty intended for 4 players is too hard.

I agree that Spartan Ops is pretty rubbish, but all your complaints are about the difficulty.

In my eyes your post is the same as one complaining about LASO. If you hate that enemies are bullet sponges and deal ridiculous damage, lower the difficulty for -Yoinks!- sake. You are literally playing it on the hardest possible mode (solo legendary).

With 4 players, legendary completions become about as quick as solo easy runs (even with the hideous lag).

IMO, it is good to have a hardest difficulty that is ridiculously out of reach for most players (requiring memorisation etc). It doesn’t matter if the hardest difficulty is far too hard, just play a lower difficulty. The problem would be if the hardest difficulty wasn’t hard enough (or if the easiest difficulty wasn’t easy enough), because then theres nothing you can do to raise the difficulty.

I had a lot of fun playing Spartan Ops matchmaking (4-player Legendary), so I don’t know what all this complaining is about. If you get decent teammates, you can go a whole level with only a few deaths.

I still get the itch to play it sometimes, but I don’t because War Games is so much more fun. :slight_smile:

My biggest beef is the player.

People suck ungodly, sweaty…non-mentionables in spartan ops matchmaking.

Sometimes a game will end with a person who wasn’t idle the entire game, getting less then 5 kills and more then 15 deaths (keep in mind that if hypothetically everyone kills evenly then he should have over 30 kills in most missions). I ALWAYS get first place, in every single spartan ops matchmaking game I’ve ever signed up for. It’s pathetic.

I mean don’t get me wrong, I guess it works out for me since I get all the kills and commendations, but sometimes it truly baffles me.

For me, I have three huge issues with Spartan Ops…

  1. There is no challenge! Since you have infinite lives and no time limit, the game is just stupidly easy on any setting, including Legendary. All a player has to do is throw their boddy against the situation until they win. It’s super boring because of this, and just never presents a challenge to the player.

  2. No Scoring System! There is nothing in Spartan Ops that tracks your score, and actively displays it to let you know how you’re doing. In Firefight, this made things fun since you had something to work for, and mildly compete against your friends with. No scoring system+ no challenge makes for a very dull experience…

  3. The Writing… The dialogue in Spartan Ops is insultingly bad. Lines like “Oh no! Bad guys are coming!”/ “HEY! Get your big brain guys to work on it faster!”/ “You Eggheads better hurry up!” make me feel like the story was written for players under the age of 10. These are highly trained Spartans, and they talk like they haven’t passed the 3rd grade? Are you kidding me? Not to mention that Spartan Sarah Palmer is one of, if not the most two dimensional characters I have ever come across in a video game; which is extremely unfortunate since it seems like she’s going to be new central character in the Halo franchise. I am actually really bummed out that we’re going to see more of her and her horrible dialogue… DAMN IT I hate the writing in spartan ops! IT SUCKS!!!

It’s because of these three reasons that I am not compelled at all to revisit the Spartan Ops missions. Just terrible 343 :frowning:

> For me, I have three huge issues with Spartan Ops…
>
> 1) There is no challenge! Since you have infinite lives and no time limit, the game is just stupidly easy on any setting, including Legendary. All a player has to do is throw their boddy against the situation until they win. It’s super boring because of this, and just never presents a challenge to the player.
>
> 2) No Scoring System! There is nothing in Spartan Ops that tracks your score, and actively displays it to let you know how you’re doing. In Firefight, this made things fun since you had something to work for, and mildly compete against your friends with. No scoring system+ no challenge makes for a very dull experience…
>
> 3) The Writing… The dialogue in Spartan Ops is insultingly bad. Lines like “Oh no! Bad guys are coming!”/ “HEY! Get your big brain guys to work on it faster!”/ “You Eggheads better hurry up!” make me feel like the story was written for players under the age of 10. These are highly trained Spartans, and they talk like they haven’t passed the 3rd grade? Are you kidding me? Not to mention that Spartan Sarah Palmer is one of, if not the most two dimensional characters I have ever come across in a video game; which is extremely unfortunate since it seems like she’s going to be new central character in the Halo franchise. I am actually really bummed out that we’re going to see more of her and her horrible dialogue… DAMN IT I hate the writing in spartan ops! IT SUCKS!!!

  1. I can see that. I don’t necessarily agree because I believe Spartan Ops was designed to be arcade-like; however…

  2. … it lacks scoring. It’s like it tries to be Campaign and Firefight at the same time, but also neither. It needs to go one way or the other.

  3. OMG, I couldn’t agree with you more. My wife won’t let me play Spartan Ops without headphones because she can’t stand the crappy and annoying dialogue. At least I can mute human players.

> 1) I can see that. I don’t necessarily agree because I believe Spartan Ops was designed to be arcade-like; however… .

Wut? Challenge is the essence of the arcade. More skill = more play time for your quarter.

I agree with this thread but for completely different reasons lol.

To me, Spartan Ops was extremely boring. The same dialogue was used over and over again, along with the same objectives. I only played it for the challenges/credits and thats about it. I love the Halo lore, but whoever wrote this did an awful job.

Most of the missions are either

Go from point A to B and fight some enemies along the way

Go to point A, fight some enemies and then go back to starting point.

Go back and forth from point A to B constantly fighting enemies

or just defend

That’s literally every mission with nearly identical dialogue. (the first 5 chapters summarized are “give crimson some toys”)
Honestly I’m not excited for season 2. I’d rather have them focus more on the main story and just skip season 2. If you want to know what spartan ops is about, just watch the cutscenes because playing the missions doesnt teach you anything.

If 343 raises the level cap, i might consider playing again, but not likely

EDIT: Also it’s way too easy. Everybody wins!!

my single biggest problem with spartan ops is that your lives mean jack-yoink. If spartan ops is supposed to be canonical then it should play like the campaign does and be checkpoint based. At the very least limited lives but I’d rather see firefight return to satisfy that need.

Other than that I will agree that spartan ops is like banging your head against a wall. There is nothing fun about fighting tons of high ranking enemies with power weapons by throwing yourself at them enough times that they die.

Marines were pathetic and I find it insulting to the lore of halo. Almost as bad as Reach marines.

And obviously the objectives left a lot to be desired as well as the general predictability of enemy placement and engagement

> For me, I have three huge issues with Spartan Ops…
>
> 1) There is no challenge! Since you have infinite lives and no time limit, the game is just stupidly easy on any setting, including Legendary. All a player has to do is throw their boddy against the situation until they win. It’s super boring because of this, and just never presents a challenge to the player.
>
> 2) No Scoring System! There is nothing in Spartan Ops that tracks your score, and actively displays it to let you know how you’re doing. In Firefight, this made things fun since you had something to work for, and mildly compete against your friends with. No scoring system+ no challenge makes for a very dull experience…
>
> 3) The Writing… The dialogue in Spartan Ops is insultingly bad. Lines like “Oh no! Bad guys are coming!”/ “HEY! Get your big brain guys to work on it faster!”/ “You Eggheads better hurry up!” make me feel like the story was written for players under the age of 10. These are highly trained Spartans, and they talk like they haven’t passed the 3rd grade? Are you kidding me? Not to mention that Spartan Sarah Palmer is one of, if not the most two dimensional characters I have ever come across in a video game; which is extremely unfortunate since it seems like she’s going to be new central character in the Halo franchise. I am actually really bummed out that we’re going to see more of her and her horrible dialogue… DAMN IT I hate the writing in spartan ops! IT SUCKS!!!
>
>
>
> It’s because of these three reasons that I am not compelled at all to revisit the Spartan Ops missions. Just terrible 343 :frowning:

^^^ I completely agree! Especially with #3

The writing is completely terrible. I hope they get somebody else to work on season 2, if it happens

> I agree with this thread but for completely different reasons lol.
>
> To me, Spartan Ops was extremely boring. The same dialogue was used over and over again, along with the same objectives. I only played it for the challenges/credits and thats about it. I love the Halo lore, but whoever wrote this did an awful job.
>
> Most of the missions are either
>
> Go from point A to B and fight some enemies along the way
>
> Go to point A, fight some enemies and then go back to starting point.
>
> Go back and forth from point A to B constantly fighting enemies
>
> or just defend
>
> That’s literally every mission with nearly identical dialogue. (the first 5 chapters summarized are “give crimson some toys”)
> Honestly I’m not excited for season 2. I’d rather have them focus more on the main story and just skip season 2. If you want to know what spartan ops is about, just watch the cutscenes because playing the missions doesnt teach you anything.
>
> If 343 raises the level cap, i might consider playing again, but not likely
>
> EDIT: Also it’s way too easy. Everybody wins!!

You forgot “push that button”

> > I agree with this thread but for completely different reasons lol.
> >
> > To me, Spartan Ops was extremely boring. The same dialogue was used over and over again, along with the same objectives. I only played it for the challenges/credits and thats about it. I love the Halo lore, but whoever wrote this did an awful job.
> >
> > Most of the missions are either
> >
> > Go from point A to B and fight some enemies along the way
> >
> > Go to point A, fight some enemies and then go back to starting point.
> >
> > Go back and forth from point A to B constantly fighting enemies
> >
> > or just defend
> >
> > That’s literally every mission with nearly identical dialogue. (the first 5 chapters summarized are “give crimson some toys”)
> > Honestly I’m not excited for season 2. I’d rather have them focus more on the main story and just skip season 2. If you want to know what spartan ops is about, just watch the cutscenes because playing the missions doesnt teach you anything.
> >
> > If 343 raises the level cap, i might consider playing again, but not likely
> >
> > EDIT: Also it’s way too easy. Everybody wins!!
>
> You forgot “push that button”

haha oh yeah, thanks for reminding me (^-^) I can’t believe i forgot that one, i think my brain was repressing the memories :stuck_out_tongue:

Spartan Miller is a joke, he degrades everything a spartan is. I’m shocked they would have such an idiot of a character in the game. Roland is just as annoying. He’s a super advanced AI, not a poor attempt at comic relief.

If you ask me most people complain at SpartanOps because their bad at it.

It’s actually simple to beat if you know how to do it and if you can’t beat it on legendary then don’t play it on legendary.

If you’re online and even they can’t handle it just play solo or play with people who CAN actually tackle legendary.

> Spartan Miller is a joke, he degrades everything a spartan is. I’m shocked they would have such an idiot of a character in the game. Roland is just as annoying. <mark>He’s a super advanced AI, not a poor attempt at comic relief.</mark>

And people were ok with Johnson who I think is a racial stereotype? Johnson wan’t funny yet people like him

Sarah Palmer…

> And people were ok with Johnson who I think is a racial stereotype? Johnson wan’t funny yet people like him

Stereotype of what? Badass-ery?

People like Johnson because of his mature wit and charm. He gave comic relief, not in the “let’s pretend we’re clowns at a kids’ birthday party” way, but in a confident and respectable way. His attitude is hilarious, but inspirational too.

Who can forget:
CORTANA: The message just repeats: “Regret, Regret, Regret.”
MIRANDA: Catchy. Any idea what it means?
SGT. JOHNSON: Dear Humanity: we regret being alien -Yoinks!-. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy–Yoink- fleet!
MARINES: Ooh-rah!

See how he inspired the Marines? He’s definitely a leader.

> Spartan Miller is a joke, he degrades everything a spartan is. I’m shocked they would have such an idiot of a character in the game. Roland is just as annoying. He’s a super advanced AI, not a poor attempt at comic relief.

“Get ready for anything Crimson!”

Hell, I don’t have serious problems with Miller, but his lines are terrible. Come on, the lesser is the better and that is really, I mean REALLY true for Miller.

Miller would have been better served as being seen frozen and floating around with a broom in chiefs cryo room when he wakes up. Not as coordinating a mobilized detachment of super soldiers on a manufactured ancient alien planet. As for Roland, They tried to give him too much personality, and an arrogant one at that. As for Palmer, I can see why they made her as edgy as she is. Probably needed to be that way. I’d be willing to bet she may become more developed as a character in future Halo’s, Maybe even as an antagonist toward chief, seeing as he is becoming more “human” it seems, and Palmer is more UNSC poster child.

> > And people were ok with Johnson who I think is a racial stereotype? Johnson wan’t funny yet people like him
>
> Stereotype of what? Badass-ery?
>
> People like Johnson because of his mature wit and charm. He gave comic relief, not in the “let’s pretend we’re clowns at a kids’ birthday party” way, but in a confident and respectable way. His attitude is hilarious, but inspirational too.
>
> Who can forget:
> CORTANA: The message just repeats: “Regret, Regret, Regret.”
> MIRANDA: Catchy. Any idea what it means?
> SGT. JOHNSON: Dear Humanity: we regret being alien -Yoinks!-. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy–Yoink!- fleet!
> MARINES: Ooh-rah!
>
> See how he inspired the Marines? He’s definitely a leader.

I’ll literally never forget that dialogue

> Don’t play on Legendary then…

Yep, I am not sure why the OP is complaining about the difficulty.

Spartan Ops IMHO got better and better and ended on a bloody high.