Reasons why not to terminate Legacy servers

Games Other Halo
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They are completely different games, and MCC is–at least in my book–utter garbage, especially connection-wise–to this day.

1.) Different player count. Playing e.g. BTB in OG H4 with the same 50-100 guys online feels on a daily basis kinda like home. MCC cannot replace this particular feeling.

2.) Different hit reg/aim. Anyone who’s ever played both games, will agree upon this fact. Whether your kda is highly positive (in the OG games), or highly negative due to different factors (different–better–players, a higher framerate, a better ping which, however, disables so-called ‘free kills’, etc.), is of major importance, at least to me. I’m good at e.g. OG H4, but bad at the same game in MCC. So, where’s my advantage being limited to only play the version I’m bad at? There simply is none.

3.) Different maps. A potentially game-ruining factor.

4.) Different vehicle/weapon spawns. Another potentially game-ruining factor.

5.) Different customization. I don’t care, honestly, but some do.

I understand why 343i is taking away our choice to play the OG games. They want us to rely on their broken and utterly flawed MCC, where many of us (formerly) skilled players get rekt for numerous reasons–yeah, even in case thy slayed in the OG games–, which are, in part, caused by a lack of skill (or rather adaption to a neweer system, which we may like or dislike, e.g. 60 instead of 30 FPS, which alters the game fundamentally), and problems caused by 343i.

A petition could be helpful, but, in all honestly, is going to be disregarded.

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MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores

Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.

AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.

Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.

I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.

Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!

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> MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
>
> Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
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> AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
>
> Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
>
> I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
>
> Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!

that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.

343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”

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> > 2533274858032918;2:
> > MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
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> > Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
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> > AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
> >
> > Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
> >
> > I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
> >
> > Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!
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> that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.
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> 343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”

Take the tinfoil hat off

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> > > 2533274858032918;2:
> > > MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
> > >
> > > Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
> > >
> > > AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
> > >
> > > I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
> > >
> > > Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!
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> > that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.
> >
> > 343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”
>
> Take the tinfoil hat off

“these issues dont exist because 343 is perfect and it cant be possible for them to mess everything up” - you, someone that is extremely ignorant

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Illuvial CE listen to yourself ranking system still broken as you remember or not the Recon slayer didn’t went thru well because we all jump by randomly cheater player and after all the fight till nothing we all didn’t get it, but fewer player did so, think harder anyway because i don’t think you play alot and often than i am.

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> > > > MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
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> > > > Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
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> > > > AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
> > > >
> > > > Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
> > > >
> > > > Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!
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> > > that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.
> > >
> > > 343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”
> >
> > Take the tinfoil hat off
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> “these issues dont exist because 343 is perfect and it cant be possible for them to mess everything up” - you, someone that is extremely ignorant

Don’t worry. I reported both of his posts. Thanks for the input. Highly appreciated. Naturally, I signed the petition you kindly shared, but again: I’m afraid it won’t change a thing.

343i is the equivalent of what is Uwe Boll to the film industry.

Letting the OG titles live doesn’t hurt, nor harm anybody; it’s only enriching. But oh no, server cost money. (((Ross))) ain’t amused.

Not everybody wants to “enjoy” 60 FPS with a “different” bullet mag and hit reg.

Go play Meltdown or any other BTB in OG H4 and then do the same in MCC. Different vehicles and weapons on the map. Advantage? Nope.

There’s also no improvement by reducing someone’s kills from 30 (OG) to 10 (MCC).

I don’t need to git gud. I am. In the OG titles. Not in the MCC. For various reasons (player pop, hit reg, and so forth). And that’s enough for me. I don’t need to change.

343i needs to dissolve and hand over “their” franchise to anyone with a three-digit IQ, e.g. Chris Roberts. Music, story, visuals, gameplay, canon–it could only be better.

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> > 2533274858032918;2:
> > MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
> >
> > Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
> >
> > AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
> >
> > Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
> >
> > I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
> >
> > Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!
>
> that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.
>
> 343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”

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> They are completely different games, and MCC is–at least in my book–utter garbage, especially connection-wise–to this day.
>
> 1.) Different player count. Playing e.g. BTB in OG H4 with the same 50-100 guys online feels on a daily basis kinda like home. MCC cannot replace this particular feeling.
>
> 2.) Different hit reg/aim. Anyone who’s ever played both games, will agree upon this fact. Whether your kda is highly positive (in the OG games), or highly negative due to different factors (different–better–players, a higher framerate, a better ping which, however, disables so-called ‘free kills’, etc.), is of major importance, at least to me. I’m good at e.g. OG H4, but bad at the same game in MCC. So, where’s my advantage being limited to only play the version I’m bad at? There simply is none.
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> 3.) Different maps. A potentially game-ruining factor.
>
> 4.) Different vehicle/weapon spawns. Another potentially game-ruining factor.
>
> 5.) Different customization. I don’t care, honestly, but some do.
>
> I understand why 343i is taking away our choice to play the OG games. They want us to rely on their broken and utterly flawed MCC, where many of us (formerly) skilled players get rekt for numerous reasons–yeah, even in case thy slayed in the OG games–, which are, in part, caused by a lack of skill (or rather adaption to a neweer system, which we may like or dislike, e.g. 60 instead of 30 FPS, which alters the game fundamentally), and problems caused by 343i.
>
> A petition could be helpful, but, in all honestly, is going to be disregarded.

If im correct it was Microsofts doing of shutting down the Xbox 360 servers and sadly the OG halo games had to bite the dust im sure 343 did not want to shut down the og halo games but they were forced to and are now taking the blame

Its like the time when Microsoft Forced stoped eldorito aka halo online to be worked on and 343 were just being hated on

While it seems that 343 is bad guy and wants to wipe out all bungie its just Microsoft just shutting down stuff and using 343 as their shield

also both Bungie games and 343 games are good in their own way Change my mind

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> > > 2533274858032918;2:
> > > MCC isn’t broken anymore. Halo 2 and Halo CE area the only games in the collection that are inferior to the original versions but even then the differences are negligible for all but the most hardcore of hardcore. Besides, both of those original version were already unavailable online, with CE of course never having XBL functionality. That said, you can still play CE on PC with basically all Xbox functionality restores
> > >
> > > Hit reg has arguably been improved in MCC, netcode is better on MCC, higher framerates are better, better settings customization in general. What armor customization is different in classic? As far as I’m aware all legacy customization options are now in MCC 100% on top of new options such as weapon skins.
> > >
> > > AFAIK all maps from the original versions still exist in MCC. If they don’t, you can still make them on MCC so its kinda irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Different weapon and vehicle spawns? I don’t know too many specifics on what would be different from 360 to MCC other than CE having different spawn timers on items. Again though, the original Xbox version of CE was never online to begin with.
> > >
> > > I know some Reach fans dislike the Title Update settings and I definitely think that 343i should add the ability to play OG Reach on MCC. Once the Custom Browser comesout it would completely fix that communitie’s issue by allowing them to just do stuff on their own.
> > >
> > > Communities die out and move on, its a part of online gaming. Games can’t be kept online forever just cause people become close. Add those people on XBL and Discord, play other games, MCC or Halo 4 again via Xlink Kai! Other communities have done that, so can you!
> >
> > that’s not true. mcc doesn’t even have proper mm playlists. it also has much worse netcode. the mcc also still has a ton of bugs that aren’t in the original games.
> >
> > 343i is only doing this out of embarrassment. they got lazy, and they want to shut everything else down because they don’t want to put in any effort to fix their broken mess of a “collection.”
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> > They are completely different games, and MCC is–at least in my book–utter garbage, especially connection-wise–to this day.
> >
> > 1.) Different player count. Playing e.g. BTB in OG H4 with the same 50-100 guys online feels on a daily basis kinda like home. MCC cannot replace this particular feeling.
> >
> > 2.) Different hit reg/aim. Anyone who’s ever played both games, will agree upon this fact. Whether your kda is highly positive (in the OG games), or highly negative due to different factors (different–better–players, a higher framerate, a better ping which, however, disables so-called ‘free kills’, etc.), is of major importance, at least to me. I’m good at e.g. OG H4, but bad at the same game in MCC. So, where’s my advantage being limited to only play the version I’m bad at? There simply is none.
> >
> > 3.) Different maps. A potentially game-ruining factor.
> >
> > 4.) Different vehicle/weapon spawns. Another potentially game-ruining factor.
> >
> > 5.) Different customization. I don’t care, honestly, but some do.
> >
> > I understand why 343i is taking away our choice to play the OG games. They want us to rely on their broken and utterly flawed MCC, where many of us (formerly) skilled players get rekt for numerous reasons–yeah, even in case thy slayed in the OG games–, which are, in part, caused by a lack of skill (or rather adaption to a neweer system, which we may like or dislike, e.g. 60 instead of 30 FPS, which alters the game fundamentally), and problems caused by 343i.
> >
> > A petition could be helpful, but, in all honestly, is going to be disregarded.
>
> If im correct it was Microsofts doing of shutting down the Xbox 360 servers and sadly the OG halo games had to bite the dust im sure 343 did not want to shut down the og halo games but they were forced to and are now taking the blame
>
> Its like the time when Microsoft Forced stoped eldorito aka halo online to be worked on and 343 were just being hated on
>
> While it seems that 343 is bad guy and wants to wipe out all bungie its just Microsoft just shutting down stuff and using 343 as their shield
>
> also both Bungie games and 343 games are good in their own way Change my mind

I’m afraid I can’t. But enjoy the current Halo and stay tuned for the grappling hook, sprint, and other oh-so-very important and Halo-esque movement abilities, 343i’s new unnecessarily expensive and wacky customization, Franky saying they needed to adapt their cutscenes in order to not hurt casuals who don’t watch lengthy ones and prefer fast-paced gameplay, etc. etc. etc.! It’s all we’ve got, after all. :slight_smile:

Comparing Bungie’s games to 343i’s is pretty much like comparing a Kubrick or Lynch movie to an Uwe Boll’s one. I’m out.

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