Few things to realize.
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This is the first time anything like this has been done on any platform.
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These servers are relatively new.
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Dedicated servers for a project/game like this has never been done.
This game has 4 games in one trying to seamlessly blend them in a SINGLE matchmaking experience. 5 including Halo 2:A. This game isn’t broken, it is just new.
I am certain in about a month from now you complainers won’t even remember what you said because of all the fun you’ll be having once the experience in completely refined. We all know you aren’t going to quit the Master Chief Collection so please just try and understand the ambition and the fact that something like this has NEVER been done before.
This was my post in one of the complaint threads and decided to post it as a new topic.
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> Few things to realize.
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> 1. This is the first time anything like this has been done on any platform.
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> 2. These servers are relatively new.
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> 3. Dedicated servers for a project/game like this has never been done.
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> This game has 4 games in one trying to seamlessly blend them in a SINGLE matchmaking experience. 5 including Halo 2:A. This game isn’t broken, it is just new.
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> I am certain in about a month from now you complainers won’t even remember what you said because of all the fun you’ll be having once the experience in completely refined. We all know you aren’t going to quit the Master Chief Collection so please just try and understand the ambition and the fact that something like this has NEVER been done before.
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> This was my post in one of the complaint threads and decided to post it as a new topic.
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> Static
I pretty much agree with you.
Sure, all the rage is causing people to stop thinking straight. But all in all I think this will be, maybe not forgotten, but somewhat alleviated over time. Once people get their Halo MP back.
But considering they have 4 games worth of data to sift through, plus having to make all of this flow nicely through multiplayer, it can be quite taxing.
If this was new ground to break then they should have done an open beta. This poor role-out is a sin. Why should I accept 0% playability in match making, a 4 hour long update, and a nearly wasted night planned with my friend after spending full retail on a game? 343i has shown their incompetence. I will not be preordering Halo 5 because I know they can’t be trusted with the content when the roll-out is good or the roll-out when the content is good.
This takes a damaged reputation and blackens it further.
I think people will always be like this and this thread won’t change a thing but I still want people to understand that something like this has never been done. At least open some minds to it…
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> If this was new ground to break then they should have done an open beta. This poor role-out is a sin. Why should I accept 0% playability in match making, a 4 hour long update, and a nearly wasted night planned with my friend after spending full retail on a game? 343i has shown their incompetence. I will not be preordering Halo 5 because I know they can’t be trusted with the content when the roll-out is good or the roll-out when the content is good.
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> This takes a damaged reputation and blackens it further.
Ugh that feeling of relief after finishing the MP download, and then that feeling to know it doesn’t work anyway.
That was a baaaad day.
I agree 100% with the OP. Once it’s fixed people will forget. But they/I will remember when Halo 5 pre ordering time comes around.
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> If this was new ground to break then they should have done an open beta. This poor role-out is a sin. Why should I accept 0% playability in match making, a 4 hour long update, and a nearly wasted night planned with my friend after spending full retail on a game? 343i has shown their incompetence. I will not be preordering Halo 5 because I know they can’t be trusted with the content when the roll-out is good or the roll-out when the content is good.
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> This takes a damaged reputation and blackens it further.
Honestly I cannot agree. A beta for something like this is a significant challenge as their is so much to test. It would’ve been too much to do something like a public beta for a cross matchmaking system like this. Something like this takes time even upon its release and even if it isn’t 100% or even 50% you have to take into account that they are still trying their best.
You seem to be treating this like any other title. This really is anything but. The preparation for something like this is almost unimaginable for any developer.
I don’t like to reference other games or companies but look at Advanced Warfare. That is just a new COD and nothing compared to something like this and yet they are still having terrible trouble still to this day over a week out of release. It says something about Microsoft, the Xbox One and any hugely anticipated game being released. So if it now is the case with any big title try to grasp that with the the quantity, quality and entirety of the MCC.
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> I agree 100% with the OP. Once it’s fixed people will forget. But they/I will remember when Halo 5 pre ordering time comes around.
Hahahah Yes! Halo 5 launch date will be filled with healthy reminders of this week.
“I don’t like to reference other games or companies but look at Advanced Warfare. That is just a new COD and nothing compared to something like this and yet they are still having terrible trouble still to this day over a week out of release.”
lol what? It’s working great and pretty much my only option since Halo still won’t work.
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> “I don’t like to reference other games or companies but look at Advanced Warfare. That is just a new COD and nothing compared to something like this and yet they are still having terrible trouble still to this day over a week out of release.”
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> lol what? It’s working great and pretty much my only option since Halo still won’t work.
It’s working great now…
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> I love Halo, I really want 343 to be successful. I think it is fair to say that most posters on this forums, fanboys or haters, feel the same way.
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> That being said…
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> This launch has been an utter disaster. A complete failure.
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> I’m not sure if it was pressure from Microsoft to sell consoles this Christmas, or if it was just a complete lack of testing on 343’s part, but the product 343 has given us is completely unacceptable. The number of bugs and flaws in the matchmaking system are bad EVEN FOR A BETA, let alone a game most gamers preordered.
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> Before launch, 343 actually claimed that their matchmaking modifications would “put players into the fairest matches faster than any Halo game to date”. What we have been given is a beta, full of bugs and defects. Nowhere near a finished product. Fanboys have to acknowledge this is awful. For a lot of gamers this might be their first impression of Halo. Future potential fans are being turned away by this embarrassing launch. We, as customers, are not getting what we payed for.
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> If you are a FANBOY, defending 343 does not help the situation at all. If you think this is an acceptable launch, you are lowering the bar. The standard Bungie set for Halo was very high, and if we accept such a buggy, flawed release, we are telling developers we will buy anything with “Halo” on the box. The fanboys on these forums have to acknowledge this release is terrible, and get over it when other players vent on the forums. All the players “Hating” on 343 just want Halo to be successful. Defending 343 after this incompetence disqualifies you from any objective thought/opinion regarding 343. If you accept such low quality for a Halo game, I don’t want you as a Halo fan. We payed 100% of the price for the game,100% of the game should work.
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> The only thing more annoying to me than 343 messing this game up, is the blind fanboys acting like 343 is doing a good job.
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> By defending 343 for this awful release, you are hurting Halo. Telling developers this kind of broken release is acceptable is the worst thing you could do. Commend developers when they deserve it, Scold them when they deserve it. Thats what these forums are for, feedback from the community. The only question is, what feedback do we send to 343 after they release a product of such low quality? Do you want Halo to succeed or fail?
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> Thanks for reading fanboys.
It is people like this that just do not get it at all and jump the gun from their frustration rather than actually REALIZING…
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> Few things to realize.
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> 1. This is the first time anything like this has been done on any platform.
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> 2. These servers are relatively new.
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> 3. Dedicated servers for a project/game like this has never been done.
>
> This game has 4 games in one trying to seamlessly blend them in a SINGLE matchmaking experience. 5 including Halo 2:A. This game isn’t broken, it is just new.
>
> I am certain in about a month from now you complainers won’t even remember what you said because of all the fun you’ll be having once the experience in completely refined. We all know you aren’t going to quit the Master Chief Collection so please just try and understand the ambition and the fact that something like this has NEVER been done before.
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> This was my post in one of the complaint threads and decided to post it as a new topic.
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> Static
This was done on Gamecube with The Legend of Zelda…
It worked fine.
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> > 2533274839179587;9:
> > “I don’t like to reference other games or companies but look at Advanced Warfare. That is just a new COD and nothing compared to something like this and yet they are still having terrible trouble still to this day over a week out of release.”
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> > lol what? It’s working great and pretty much my only option since Halo still won’t work.
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> It’s working great now…
People could get into games “Day Zero”
Lag was the issue.
Campaign also worked for everyone from the start.
Halo:MCC is far from where COD:AW was.
It’s really not some ground breaking new thing…it’s not like all the different game engines run at the same time. There has been a ton of games released before with multiple engines on the same disc.
The matchmaking system is the same that any other game uses, the correct engine boots up once the game is selected.
The main problem with matchmaking is this is the first time 343 has ever used dedicated servers.
Then there are all the bugs from porting the games over without extensive QA.
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> It’s really not some ground breaking new thing…it’s not like all the different game engines run at the same time. There has been a ton of games released before with multiple engines on the same disc.
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> The matchmaking system is the same that any other game uses, the correct engine boots up once the game is selected.
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> The main problem with matchmaking is this is the first time 343 has ever used dedicated servers.
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> Then there are all the bugs from porting the games over without extensive QA.
Severely incorrect friend. There has never been a cross system like this ever done before in this exact fashion. A ton? Name 5 please. You are probably thinking of other collection titles like the Orange Box which aren’t nearly the same as this. A UI like this really is new.
At the end of the day, we are all going to get to play classic Halo. What more can you ask for?
also be aware most haters are a loud minority
“this game isnt broken its just new?” have you lost your mind?
have you not read the latest patch notes coming for tonight?
and that doesnt even address everything
just in case you cant find it
MATCHMAKING
Addressed a number of issues that resulted in extended matchmaking times and low matchmaking success rates.
Made a number of updates to how matchmaking progress is communicated to the player. With this update, you’ll see better, more frequent and more informative status updates throughout the matchmaking flow – so “Players Found” for example, will be displayed to let players know where they are in the matchmaking process instead of simply wondering if it’s going to connect.
The improved matchmaking flow is as follows:
Searching
Searching for more players
Players found
Finalizing matchmaking process
Connecting session
Made an update to ensure that parties stick together when returning from the post-game carnage report
Prevented the ability for players “kick” other players from matchmaking games
Made an update to ensure that the Roster correctly displays the “searching” UI rather than “My Game Session” while searching for players
Removed the possibility to boost ranking through a custom games exploit
Made an update to ensure that players cannot get stuck in the matchmaking screen during map voting
Made an update to ensure that the “Connecting to your game” message no longer incorrectly displays in the lower right of the screen during gameplay
Made an update to the “team creation” phase that allows players to be grouped by team
Made an update to prevent players from seeing the “connection failed” dialogue if disconnected during the map voting screen
Improved roster / matchmaking lobby stability
Made improvements to the accuracy and stability of the “Game Session Details” UI
Improved version compatibility
UI
Improved emblem and nameplate behavior to ensure that they do not reset to default (especially after game sessions)
Corrected career stats that did not update uniformly across different profiles in multiple titles
Improved Forge map display names in Theater
Corrected various medal inconsistencies across titles
CAMPAIGN
Made updates to the attainability of various achievements, including “Goat Roped,” “Monopolized,” “You’re Joking,” and “Devastating.”
Improved Halo: CE career stat tracking
Resolved scoring and time HUD reset and display issues
Made an update to ensure that rival emblems are displayed correctly
HALO: CE
Improved consistency and reliability of shot registration
Improved headshot hitboxes
Fixed an issue where respawning players could momentarily appear at their death location
Made an update to ensure that the match ends when the entire opposing team quits
Improved fall damage consistency (specifically in regards to uneven surfaces)
Improved Halo: CE menu and loading screen stability
Improved consistency with multikill rewards
Made an update to improve post-game carnage report accuracy for Halo: CE FFA games
Updated default language settings
HALO 2
Made an update to ensure that the team color shown in pre-game lobby matches in-game
Improved a variety of networking issues to allow for improved consistency between host and clients in peer to peer matches
Improved a variety of networking issues to allow for improved gameplay consistency
Made an update to service tag functionality, allowing for service tags to appear for all players
Improved the post-game carnage report to correctly display team color
Made an update to ensure that the match ends when the entire opposing team quits
Improved “original” medal icon functionality in split-screen
Improved host migration functionality
Corrected “headshot” stat tracking
Addressed a crash that occurred with the Scarab skull
Addressed art errors that occurred on the opening cinematics for “Uprising” and “High Charity”
HALO 2: ANNIVERSARY
Made an update to prevent players from gaining achievements in Forge
Improved Forge item display names
Resolved text overlapping issues
Improved split screen stability
Made an update to resolve the notorious “-1th” scoreboard text
Improved lobby functionality to address players not being able to reconnect to the party leader after completing a match
Improved host migration functionality
Corrected vehicle and weapon thumbnails in the “Tools of destruction” table in the post-game carnage report
Addressed a dedicated server issue that caused gameplay physics issues on Stonetown
Improved split-screen party functionality to ensure that players are not directed to a broken lobby screen after completing a game session
Improved Forge mode stability
Made an update to King of the Hill scoring to prevent multiple hills from counting down at the same time
Improved Shrine objective spawn points
Improved King of the Hill and Ninjanaut mode stability
Addressed an issue where controller vibration could persist during the pause menu
Improved Race mode respawn zones
i mean wow lol
No. My mind is in tact. I stand by what I said firmly still to this point. I really don’t understand what is so hard to realize about a project like this.