I don’t usually complain about Reach because as a whole, I love the game. I had no problem with bloom, no bleed through, and AAs (I did adjust but still prefer a game without them). What I absolutely can’t stand, however, is invasion slayer. OMG it is absolutely awful. Spartans have a huge advantage.
Needle Rifles do not = DMRs
Swords do not = Shotguns
Beam Rifles do not = Sniper Rifles
Sticky Launchers do not = Rockets
And the tank can pretty easily take out the banshee and the wraith (because it shoots faster).
Capturing the weapon territories on Invasion Slayer gives Spartans a huge advantage, while leaving the elites with crap weapons. What makes it even worse is that the elites have a huge head/body, making them easy sniper targets. And you a limited to, I think, 3 spawns (which are all right beside one another), so it is extremely easy to spawn camp!The spawning weapons aren’t even equal. I’d rather spawn with an assault rifle and a pistol any day over a plasma pistol and a plasma repeater. It would be slightly more fair if their were weapons available for pickup on the map, but there are none! At least in regular Invasion there is an objective outside of kills, and you get to switch sides. Even in E. Invasion skirmish the weapon capture points switch between elite and spartan.
Therefore, invasion slayer has to be the worst, most unfair game type IMO. But feel free to share stories and discuss your least favorite game type, or the one that you believe to be most unfair.
> > I don’t usually complain about Reach because as a whole, I love the game. I had no problem with bloom, no bleed through, and AAs (I did adjust but still prefer a game without them). What I absolutely can’t stand, however, is invasion slayer. OMG it is absolutely awful. Spartans have a huge advantage.
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> > Needle Rifles do not = DMRs
> > Swords do not = Shotguns
> > Beam Rifles do not = Sniper Rifles
> > Sticky Launchers do not = Rockets
> > And the tank can pretty easily take out the banshee and the wraith (because it shoots faster).
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> > Capturing the weapon territories on Invasion Slayer gives Spartans a huge advantage, while leaving the elites with crap weapons. What makes it even worse is that the elites have a huge head/body, making them easy sniper targets. And you a limited to, I think, 3 spawns (which are all right beside one another), so it is extremely easy to spawn camp!The spawning weapons aren’t even equal. I’d rather spawn with an assault rifle and a pistol any day over a plasma pistol and a plasma repeater. It would be slightly more fair if their were weapons available for pickup on the map, but there are none! At least in regular Invasion there is an objective outside of kills, and you get to switch sides. Even in E. Invasion skirmish the weapon capture points switch between elite and spartan.
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> > Therefore, invasion slayer has to be the worst, most unfair game type IMO. But feel free to share stories and discuss your least favorite game type, or the one that you believe to be most unfair.
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> stop complaining, i bet you’re one of those people who quit when they get spawn killed by me
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> there is a simple solution either don’t play it or when you do play it play with a full team
You seem to be confident he has five friends online, all willing to play Invasion and put up with being an Elite on Invasion Slayer.
Elites in Invasion slayer are horribly underpowered, DMRs can wreck vehicles, Needle Rifles can’t even dent them.
I gotta agree with OP here.
Everything said was spot on.
The only way Elites have a lick of a chance is to jack Spartan weapons from the ones that die, and waiting for Spartans to capture a zone and then take their reinforcements.
> I gotta agree with OP here.
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> Everything said was spot on.
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> The only way Elites have a lick of a chance is to jack Spartan weapons from the ones that die, and waiting for Spartans to capture a zone and then take their reinforcements.
That’s usually my plan as a Elite.
You gotta do it quick though.
If you let them get the edge over your Elite team, they’ll pick you off from distances before, your measly 2X scope on your NR not being good enough.
Not sure if REALLY good Elite users…
Or REALLY bad Spartans.
Have to agree. Elite’s weapons are crap compared to the Spartan ones. I hate being Elites in IS.
> I don’t usually complain about Reach because as a whole, I love the game. I had no problem with bloom, no bleed through, and AAs (I did adjust but still prefer a game without them). What I absolutely can’t stand, however, is invasion slayer. OMG it is absolutely awful. Spartans have a huge advantage.
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> Needle Rifles do not = DMRs
> Swords do not = Shotguns
> Beam Rifles do not = Sniper Rifles
> Sticky Launchers do not = Rockets
> And the tank can pretty easily take out the banshee and the wraith (because it shoots faster).
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> Capturing the weapon territories on Invasion Slayer gives Spartans a huge advantage, while leaving the elites with crap weapons. What makes it even worse is that the elites have a huge head/body, making them easy sniper targets. And you a limited to, I think, 3 spawns (which are all right beside one another), so it is extremely easy to spawn camp!The spawning weapons aren’t even equal. I’d rather spawn with an assault rifle and a pistol any day over a plasma pistol and a plasma repeater. It would be slightly more fair if their were weapons available for pickup on the map, but there are none! At least in regular Invasion there is an objective outside of kills, and you get to switch sides. Even in E. Invasion skirmish the weapon capture points switch between elite and spartan.
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> Therefore, invasion slayer has to be the worst, most unfair game type IMO. But feel free to share stories and discuss your least favorite game type, or the one that you believe to be most unfair.
I’ve never really thought about Invasion Slayer being unfair since I don’t play the Invasion playlist much.
What I really hate is the Team Hotshot gametype.
It makes absolutely no sense to make people more powerful for getting kills. If a person on one team is slightly more talented than the people on the other team and they end up getting the first kill, that already puts the other team at a huge disadvantage:
-More map control.
-More damage.
That’s why Hotshot is in Action Sack, Luke.
> I don’t usually complain about Reach because as a whole, I love the game. I had no problem with bloom, no bleed through, and AAs (I did adjust but still prefer a game without them). What I absolutely can’t stand, however, is invasion slayer. OMG it is absolutely awful. Spartans have a huge advantage.
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> Needle Rifles do not = DMRs
> Swords do not = Shotguns
> Beam Rifles do not = Sniper Rifles
> Sticky Launchers do not = Rockets
> And the tank can pretty easily take out the banshee and the wraith (because it shoots faster).
>
> Capturing the weapon territories on Invasion Slayer gives Spartans a huge advantage, while leaving the elites with crap weapons. What makes it even worse is that the elites have a huge head/body, making them easy sniper targets. And you a limited to, I think, 3 spawns (which are all right beside one another), so it is extremely easy to spawn camp!The spawning weapons aren’t even equal. I’d rather spawn with an assault rifle and a pistol any day over a plasma pistol and a plasma repeater. It would be slightly more fair if their were weapons available for pickup on the map, but there are none! At least in regular Invasion there is an objective outside of kills, and you get to switch sides. Even in E. Invasion skirmish the weapon capture points switch between elite and spartan.
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> Therefore, invasion slayer has to be the worst, most unfair game type IMO. But feel free to share stories and discuss your least favorite game type, or the one that you believe to be most unfair.
i 100% agree but that is why i love invasion slayer. I just pray that i am a spartan and 99% of the time i win. lol
I read the title and thought its probly Invasion slayer and yep 
Yeah something has needed to be done for ages but 343 must’nt care for Invasion.
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It’s not at all hard to win as an elite, you just need to play smart…
Also the most unfair playlist is living dead, or btb when you get paired with an eight man team.
> Invasion Slayer 4/7/2012
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> lol well as you can see i played Invasion Slayer as an Elite and still won… why because i am good and i play with a full team
But that’s not the point the OP is trying to make: what you seem to think is that OP is claiming that it is impossible for the elites to win, but he isn’t. Instead, he’s saying that if both Elite and Spartan teams are equally skillful, then the Spartans will win because they clearly have weapon advantages off spawn and from drops, aswell as AA advantages.
AS for the thread, I agree 100% with OP. I don’t understand why Invasion hasn’t been changed since release (or atleast nothing major) when it has the potential to be, in my opinion, the best playlist on Reach.