Reach vs. 4 (Post CSR)

Which game do you guys think has better now that CSR has been implemented? Or has your opinion not changed? Or is it too early to tell?

Reach! love the armor, and love the gameplay, and Bungie For Life… love you too 343. Halo 4’s a great game too

Not hate :slight_smile:

Even at launch I still think halo 4 is better.

Eventhough I had lots of fun playing Reach mainly because there were no Ranks to worry about lol I still preffer Halo 4 over it I wish the DMR would have stayed in Reach though.

Reach still trumps 4.

I mean with CSR waypoint only, I don’t even really feel like it is part of the game. I thought the arena system from Reach was far more engaging, not that I was particularly a fan of that either.

But I think Reach was the better game overall. It was just a more complete package, especially post TU for which I give 343i full credit. It just had better theater, more diverse custom game options, better forge areas and tools (though magnets are nice when they work properly), and personally I liked firefight better than spops. So yeah, Halo 4 does do some things well, just is a less robust offering as far as Halo titles go.

I don’t see at all how someone can say forge was better in Reach. It was exactly the same with a big -Yoink- grey level that people only ever used 30% of.

Want a big map? Box in the sky. Want a small map? Box in the sky. Want a medium map? Box in the sky.

It was either that or CANYON, ALL CANYON ALL THE TIME. occasionally they used the island but seriously f that “team dmr on the ridge while getting banshee bombed” noise.

reach easily for me. halo 4 has kill streaks reach does not.

> reach easily for me. halo 4 has kill streaks reach does not.

I’m just going to put this out their…

Have you tried playing a playlist that doesn’t start with the word “Infinity”? Some playlists can be very fun and even(dare I say it) competitive.

Reach was horrible. Halo 4 is less horrible. Halo 4 wins.

> I don’t see at all how someone can say forge was better in Reach. It was exactly the same with a big -Yoink!- grey level that people only ever used 30% of.
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> Want a big map? Box in the sky. Want a small map? Box in the sky. Want a medium map? Box in the sky.
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> It was either that or CANYON, ALL CANYON ALL THE TIME. occasionally they used the island but seriously f that “team dmr on the ridge while getting banshee bombed” noise.

Yes, playing Forge world maps got very boring and very repetitive. And I have ranted on and on about this in the past. But that is just how it works. If Halo 4 had a million Forge maps in every playlist like Reach did then it’d be the same story there.

However, the actual act of Forging and building levels was superior in Reach. Monitor zoom and Precision editing, coupled with the plethora of custom game options meant players had far more ability to exercise their creative potential when designing maps. Halo 4 has neither of these things, and its only real innovation is magnets which even then are out of alignment on several pieces. So yeah, that is why people say Forge was better on Reach insofar as the act of actually making a map is concerned.

To early to tell, I don’t think we have seen everything from Halo 4 yet.

P.S. Where is the “to early to tell” option in the poll, you have the option in your original post, but not in the poll.

And the “both on the same level option”, the poll is suggesting that we all think that one is better than the other, which is false, there is a wide range of opinions on Waypoint.

While Halo Reach had great gametypes, playable Elites, and very replayable Firefight, I pick 4 because it has superior speed, weapon balance, game mechanics, and story. And its forge just looks better.

Reach still seems to be a better game, in terms of balance and aesthetics.
Although I will admit 343i is slowly improving Halo 4, the last TU and the Castle map pack are steps in the right direction

Reach. Assuming this is in terms of MP

I do prefer Halo 4, I just have more fun with it than Reach.

Reach, alot more options and the game looks better in my opinion.

Like Halo reach a Little Bit more but Halo 4 is also awesome and does some Things way better than reach… Only Thing where reach is Realy far awy from 4 is the armory because it’s Great in reach and crap in Halo 4 (exept visor colours)

> > reach easily for me. halo 4 has kill streaks reach does not.
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> Have you tried playing a playlist that doesn’t start with the word “Infinity”? Some playlists can be very fun and even(dare I say it) competitive.

Even throudown and doubles have kills streaks. may not be guns but is damage boost and speed and that -Yoink-. So Reach all the way

CSR means nothing to me, so I’m still going with Reach. Reach’s UI alone is a thousand times better than Halo 4’s abomination of a counterpart.