When the Spartan IIIs were created, ONI did not tell Halsey, and she did not figure it out until she landed on Onyx, which was after the events of Reach. So why, pray tell, in Reach, is she interacting with Spartan IIIs and even trusts one to hold Cortana?
Please explain this to me, since I hit a standstill.
Because bungie retconned some stuff.
And she wasn’t really in any position to question these things, the planet was burning and humanities last hope needed to get to the autumn.
In Halsey’s diary that came with the Limited/Legendary editions of the game, it was mentioned that she had suspicion for a long time before hand.
Also, in “Glasslands” it is mentioned as to what steps she has taken to investigate this new breed of Spartans.
But yeah, there has been way too much retcon in the Halo Universe.
EDIT: Nice! You have 117 posts. Now you have to make a tough decision.
I wouldn’t say it proved all the books wrong…
> Because bungie retconned some stuff.
I hear that Nicholas Cage is starring in a film about these retcons…
Halsey didn’t know about the Spartan III program still but she knew they weren’t HER Spartans. She has her suspicions. Go Read Halsey’s journal. There are no retcons.
Bungie Retconned nothing. Halsey knew they were Spartans because she could tell they were augmented by their movements, not to mention they were successfully wearing her MJOLNIR Armor. However nowhere in the game does Halsey, or anyone else, verbally identify them as Spartan-IIIs. Halsey does not learn about the Spartan-III program or the location of Onyx until she gets into Ackerson’s files in CASTLE Base just as the other novels had said. Her Journal discusses this when she ponders what possible project they could have come from but she was too busy to keep speculating.
Where was it ever said in Reach that she knows exactly what program they’ve come from and everything about them? All Halsey knows is that they are Spartans and augmented, but that Noble team are not “hers”, that’s all she knows about them. Not really who they are, not where they came from, not what program they are…all she knows for certain is that they are Spartans, and they did not come from the program she ran.
OP, i think of it as the books proved reach wrong. Not the other way round, but if you kind a mesh it around and stuff it does kinda make sense but really, bungie should have stuck with the books or gone closely along with them.
> When the Spartan IIIs were created, ONI did not tell Halsey, and she did not figure it out until she landed on Onyx, which was after the events of Reach. So why, pray tell, in Reach, is she interacting with Spartan IIIs and even trusts one to hold Cortana?
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> Please explain this to me, since I hit a standstill.
It’s quite simple, and I don’t understand why people have trouble with this: Halsey had suspicions about another program for a while. Her brief meetings with Noble Team confirmed that some other program existed without her knowledge, but it wasn’t until she got to Onyx that she knew the exact nature of this program and its doings.
Halsey didn’t know everything, in fact, she didn’t know a lot of things. One of the key facts about the Halo Universe, that is very easy to forget, is that it is huge. There’s a lot of space to hide things. I think looking at the books through the possibility that what is stated in the books and games is subject to being expanded on is a good lens to look through.
Halo: Reach is not Canon so that never happend because if you notice in the end you can see MC in cryo which is wrong cus he didnt touch down on reach for that long so its all invalid.
> Halo: Reach is not Canon so that never happend because if you notice in the end you can see MC in cryo which is wrong cus he didnt touch down on reach for that long so its all invalid.
The game IS canon that thing you described is an easter egg and last time i checked easter eggs have nothing to do with the story of the game or teh canons.
If your gonna claim they do then i guess all of halo 2 is invalid as well because of the scarab gun.
> Halo: Reach is not Canon so that never happend because <mark>if you notice in the end you can see MC in cryo</mark> which is wrong cus he didnt touch down on reach for that long so its all invalid.
I thought it was proven that Linda was in the cryo tube.
Am I wrong?
> > Halo: Reach is not Canon so that never happend because <mark>if you notice in the end you can see MC in cryo</mark> which is wrong cus he didnt touch down on reach for that long so its all invalid.
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> I thought it was proven that Linda was in the cryo tube.
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> Am I wrong?
It’s neither. The Spartan in the Cryotube was a non-canon easter egg. It’s intended to be the Chief, but it has no merit in established canon or any story relevance.
> > Halo: Reach is not Canon so that never happend because <mark>if you notice in the end you can see MC in cryo</mark> which is wrong cus he didnt touch down on reach for that long so its all invalid.
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> I thought it was proven that Linda was in the cryo tube.
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> Am I wrong?
Nah, it’s just a little easter egg, I mean, you can have it be Linda if you want to be, but really it’s just a non-canon easter egg like those two marines in Halo 3 voiced by guys from Rooster Teeth arguing through that closed door on Crow’s Nest…or like those bonus little Grunts in each game.
> When the Spartan IIIs were created, ONI did not tell Halsey, and she did not figure it out until she landed on Onyx, which was after the events of Reach. So why, pray tell, in Reach, is she interacting with Spartan IIIs and even trusts one to hold Cortana?
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> Please explain this to me, since I hit a standstill.
Because the game Halo Reach is false canon when it comes to certain things. The biggest one being spartan III’s, who are supposed to be child soldiers equipped with unshielded partial camo armor and who were used for suicide attacks. Not what we have in Reach by a long shot. It also mixes up the origins and purposes of Cortana also. Cortana was originally made for the sole purpose of assisting the Chief with his mission of seizing a Covenant leader. She was designed for intrusion and hacking into the covenant systems and she had no prior knowledge of the forerunners. Reach destroyed both of those original purposes. You kinda have to just accept Reach for what it is sometimes and roll with it, try not to take the story too seriously
> Because bungie retconned some stuff.
Retcon?
I don’t see how.
Halsey knew the rest of Noble Team was composed of Spartans she didn’t pick. She didn’t know that they were S3s.
Off topic: Do people really believe that Reach retcons things or is non-canon?
> > Because bungie retconned some stuff.
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> Retcon?
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> I don’t see how.
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> Halsey knew the rest of Noble Team was composed of Spartans she didn’t pick. She didn’t know that they were S3s.
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> Off topic: Do people really believe that Reach retcons things or is non-canon?
Yup, I consider it non-canon on the big things like Noble team and Cortanan and even the battle itself in certain regards. I consider it kinda canon as far as the little things like all the fights that took place in the campaign levels. I just dont agree with who is doing it, should be members of Red Team spartan II’s.
I consider The Fall of Reach and First Strike as true canon as to what happened. Imo the original book trumps the game.
I get it’s your opinion that it’s non-canon and all, but your opinion is simply wrong.