Reach>halo4

Halo 4 is the worst out of the box multiplayer halo to date… And i loathed reach with a burning passion… Your sole purpose when playing a game is too obtain armor… your stats mean nothing, a high k/d means nothing… nor does your win loss record because of jip… You have made a random luck based fps that yes takes skill but isnt halo… And doesnt take nearly the skill that used to be needed in halo ce and post patch halo 2… Halo 3 took skill more so than the reach and 4 but introduced the first random factor in to the halo series with bullet spread… the random factor is the sole reason halo has been dying… a

What is wrong with you mate? Halo 4 is awesome. Much better than reach especially in the multiplayer.

Reach had way better maps and it had forge world the two things Halo4 is sorely lacking. I want some damn tank vs tank maps like sandtrap or avalanche from Halo3.

I play games to compete, im a competitive person. Halo 4 has ruined it and its competitive nature… for instance

Halo 4 has failed in many aspects but starts with player movement

but lets starts with maps… they made a BTB casual game, but at the same time ruined btb with loadouts(stickys,plasmas pistols), random ordinance, and bad vehicles. You remembered that time in old halo games where you made pushes towards lasers,rockets, etc to stop vehichles… hahah the good old times where player movement was needed. Halo 4 has become stale and littered with campers… Static weapons are a must and these long kill times dont help anything. Making the BR 4 shot would only make the game better because it would promote movement. Static weapons also = player movement… Something that also created team work and strategy to obtain… I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EVEN BOTHER PLAYING THIS GAME, YOUR PLAYING FOR ARMOR… NEITHER YOUR KD NOR YOUR W/L RECORDS MEANS ANYTHING NOR HAVE MEANT ANYTHING SINCE HALO 3… The combination of JiP,insta spawns, the removal of static weapons, long kill times, and big maps have completely destroyed any chance for halo to be a competitive game. They created a random luck base FPS that yes takes skill but isnt halo and Shouldnt of been called halo 4 besides for the campaign that i was actually impressed with… atleast the cutscenes…

Either way this title update better change a lot… and ranks need to be shown in game not hidden… stop catering to casuals, youve done enough already. But im not playing till then… Im critical of a series i loved and the majority of the people want something to release resemble it…

I respectfully disagree, however you are entitled to your opinion.

^Well i atleast respect your for that

> and these long kill times dont help anything.

I disagree. Halo has always had long kill times and the kill times in H4 are faster thanks to faster/closer spawns and tons of power weapons.

but I agree with the rest of your post.

wow, after all the hate reach got, I never thought I’d see the day when someone on these forums would say Reach>anything

I guess the trend is true; a new game will always be hated more than its predecessor

the only reason the kill times are fast because of insta spawns and the fact you spawn on your teammates for the most part. MM is an utter train because of it but this is why it seems like the kill times are shorter to you… and they probably are compared to reach… but that really isnt a halo game either is it

Pump your brakes over their, never said reach was better than anything… just better out of the box than halo 4… Halo 4 is a diamond covered in the ruff, has the potential… but in its current state is almost unplayable MP wise

Now, now, now. Standard Halo 4 is basically a FPS version of Super Smash Bros. Random and explosive, yet fun at times. There’s reason to hate it, but there’s also a lot to love. The big problems are that even smash bros is more balanced, and lag. When you lag, the little fun that there is dissappears. Sadly, this game lags a lot. When it doesn’t, I can actually enjoy it.

Because of this, a wired internet connection is REQUIRED to play H4. Never again shall I use wireless.

Um, I liked Reach more than H3. I played it a few years AFTER it was released I don’t know about previous versions… but I certainly think that current Reach>Any other FPS. It just needs action sack back. That playlist was REALLY fun and it rewarded less credits so campers were never in that playlist. It was AWESOME.

what in gods name are you talking about

Reach MP was okay/good at best, below average at worst. The removal of true-skill killed it for me and many others, as there’s no real incentive to play but pointless grinding.

H4 is essentially the same in that aspect; I hope they fix that quick.

Forge mode is extremely powerful, but we lack an open map to make the maps on. Game-type creation is broken beyond belief, and they completely removed the existence of racetracks.

Net code for MP and SO is horrible; half the time the servers are down and the other half I’m lagging on a 7/9 MB/s (Yeah, I have my units right) connection, in the US on the eastern seaboard.

> what in gods name are you talking about

Well… You know how everyone in Brawl is “cheap” and there’s a tier system for most fighting games? Well there’s a similar tier system for the loadout guns and ordance is cheap in the same manner.

I guess you people don’t play anything other than FPS’s huh… That’s actually sad.

And smash bros is very explosive. Sometimes people randomly explode in H4, no joke.

the last smash i played was on the gamecube… and i play super ssf4 regularly

What’s super ssf4?

EDIT: nvm

> What is wrong with you mate? Halo 4 is awesome. Much better than reach especially in the multiplayer.

His opinion is different than yours. That’s why you think something is wrong.

I rather get swept by a Moxie Salamence and endure Hurricane spam via Tornadus T (in the rain) AND constant critical hits than to say Reach > Halo 4.

Reach has it’s saving graces but none of relate to balanced, competitive MP. I can’t ignore the fun of Forge World and social gametypes but…don’t get me started on Reach’s “sandbox”. The settings for your jumps are low, and your movement speed is akin to moving like a Shuckle (very -Yoinking!- slow if you don’t know Shuckles speed stat).

Halo 4 all the way IMO. Even with the flaws it surpasses Reach.

-Don’t fu##le with Shuckle :wink:

So the trend continues. People saying the last iteration of Halo was better and I believe the cycle will continue.

For me Halo 4 is a much better game.

halo 4 built of reach… atleast reach made matches competitive with static weapons spawns… needed for a fair game, not this personal/random ordinance system… yes aa’s like jet pack and the randomness of bloom ruined reach for me but i can say i still had fun in its playlist competing in a some what even/fair arena based game. 2v2 all the way