Nice. I used to do that with blue coatings because I figure it’s probably by far the most common team outline colour but I got bored with no blue coating that I really liked.
Actually outlines already do that and are adjustable for colorblind people.
I’m actually colorblind in the Deuteranopia category - so I switch from that rather muted red to a very bright yellow. So. No. That’s not muting anyone’s identity. My Target Acquisition is not impaired because outlines already help a lot with it.
Like, using disabled people for an argument sucks already but congratulations, you found someone with exactly the disability you’re talking about and we’re already taken into account.
Honestly, what’s so bad about Spartans in cat ears or santa hats? I don’t see it. I don’t see how it subtracts at all.
Well no, but if they added a baseball cap in the game and you wanted it I’d be quite happy to have you wear it. Haha, baseball cap over a MK VII helmet would look pretty funny.
I’m not ‘using’ disabled people in an argument I’m making a valid point, albeit one that has probably distracted from the core disagreement. I’m sorry that you have Deuteranopia and am happy to hear that the current accessibility options cater to you and allow you to enjoy the game. Other people with different disabilities may not feel the same.
I don’t have any particular issue with people wearing cat ears or Santa hats. I don’t love them but they don’t really bother me. I personally dislike the armour and kill effects and would like to be able to turn them off. It may never happen and for now I’m okay with that. One day it may tip the balance and it may stop me playing but that would largely be driven by other factors.
My issue isn’t with the cosmetics themselves but by your dismissal of people who want an option within the game that better caters to their desires and has minimal impact on anyone else. You borderline accuse them of some sort of personal attack that ‘silences your identity’, which I feel reads very negative intentions into their actions which absolutely are not true and is actually insulting.
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If it’s colorblindness, we’re mostly taken care of. It’s nothing outlines won’t fix, given they’re omnipresent.
The latter should be allowed. Those effects became far more disruptive in S2 - it doesn’t bother me too much but a sudden flash of color and sound overtaking your screen is not always welcome and may be genuinely dangerous for some people. So yes I do support that one.
Look, Halo players are obsessed with toggles for everything. I kinda’ hate it. There is a reason that Halo 3 got a toggle and that was to preserve the original artistic vision of the game, but that’s not really something that’s a concern here.
MCC was a legacy / archive tool more than anything else. Infinite is a live service. Not a lot of point in making or buying these kinds of cosmetics if you can’t advertise them.
Which is ultimately why it is the way it is. I just so happen to be very happy about cat ears being there because it feels right to me to have them.
Advertising them is definitely a plus for the store but this toggle is would only prevent customers who actively dislike them from seeing them so it’s not going to reduce sales and could results in a small boost in overall customer retention.
That’s the joy of toggles. It’s supposed to allow people with opposing viewpoints to both get what they want. Nobody should want to take your cat ears away from you or any ‘fun’ cosmetics from anyone else. We can wish for an option to tailor the game a little more to our taste. I accept that it’s probably not going to happen but I guess I just don’t understand your hostility to the very idea.
That’s kind of the funny thing - it actually would impact sales. Advertisements are not for those who are interested. They’re for those who might be, or could be swayed. I need it to be very clear that I do not support this, but it is for this reason that the toggle won’t happen.
I’m an artist. Let me explain something to you, because nobody here really has the context for this - From 2011-2017, I was involved in the Brony fandom. You know what one of the biggest issues artists in the culture had, was?
Variants. So many variants of a single image. You could go to the local sites to find half the page, with different versions of the same fanart. Not different angles, barely different things happening - no. Different versions of the same static image. Things added or omitted.
My Gods, was it annoying. This McDonalds menu of options so you can have precisely what you want - consumerist and appeasing to a consuming crowd, with no conviction to stand by ONE version of something.
A sacrifice of statement for the sake of appeal. Artistically bankrupt behavior that thankfully has largely died out.
But I despise it. All these options are useless clutter when you could instead have one holistic statement. but beyond that… who judges what’s silly and what’s not?
Some fans believe that Spartans should only be green, have gold visors and have no variation in armor.
Some fans believe that anything but camo is silly.
Some fans believe that visorless helmets do not belong in Halo.
Some fans believe that armor effects should not exist.
And what then? How many toggles do you add? What constitutes silly?
Make the statement yourself. Wear what you believe to be Halo. Because everyone sees it as something different. But make a statement.
That is why I oppose it. The workload, disagreement of what’s what, the subjectivity, the absolute inability to be objective about it.
It is ultimately wasted effort when you can just make a statement and stand by it. Conviction always has more value.
Anybody that buys gimmicks like cat ears are just encouraging the industry to make bad cheap and unfinished games.
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Repeatedly showing someone something they don’t like won’t make them like it. It tends to reinforce their feelings and possibly make them actively hostile towards it. If they are indifferent then the advertising has a chance but if the toggle is off by default this won’t be an issue.
I believe I understand what you are trying to say here but I’m not sure that you can say that Halo Infinite as it stands today has one unified artistic vision to protect. Even whomever is (or was) head of artistic design would have had pressures and restrictions from above on what they could do and possibly more pressures from marketing about what needed to be included in order to make money. Maybe cat ears were included against their will, maybe they quit their job over it. Hugely unlikely but we will probably never know.
Infinite is also constantly evolving by its very nature as a live service game. What is then acceptable to be added or removed in the future? The cat ears weren’t in it from the beginning and are one of the many changes to the original artistic vision. Maybe they were thought up in the original game design, most likely they weren’t. You love that change and are fully supportive of it but have now drawn the line that the ability of some players to not see them would be an unacceptable compromise without knowing what the original designers actually envisioned.
I see the merit in making decisions and standing by them but some of the statements made by 343i about Halo Infinites art style leading up to the release leads me to believe that an abundance of ‘fun’ cosmetics isn’t what they had in mind and the current version is in fact already artistically compromised for financial reasons.
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Oh so true, only go off when veiwing other attachments or using different cores. just like yoroi antlers! #mkvii
They actually were, they just weren’t enabled in the store yet, but were 100% in the game’s files.
Dunno’, it’s been pretty consistent for me. Infinite is a live service, not an archive like MCC. It’s allowed to change over time.
You’re making arguments without evidence. “If they did this thing, they’d surely have to cave to other demands!” They could also just do what they ALREADY DID and give us the toggle. You can keep your experience, and I can keep mine. MCC is not an “archive”, they are adding new content faster than Infinite. We have new firefight rules, new cosmetics, new games compatible with said cosmetics, all without forcing anyone to play what they don’t want to. Your talk about “what is Halo?” Is solved. MCC has “real” and “fantasy” sets, and there is toggle to show all, canon, or No customization at all. The problem of how to please everyone was solved, you just want everyone to, as you put, “deal with it”.
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I wish the store was delayed, we lost co-op and firefight for eSports skins.
Exactly how I felt when I bought the car ears. Blahhhh. Purchasable items should be cross-core on everything.
They devolved the game back to 2004 due to the digital merchandise.
But then again we had clans back in 2004.
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Excuse me but you seem to have tripped over yourself here.
Especially you, lol. Honestly if these kinds of things frustrate you I just want more of it.
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I know you aren’t responding to me and I’m not sure how much of this is a joke but I feel it ties back in to our disagreement.
Isn’t keeping more players happy the best thing the game can do for player retention and it is in everyone’s best interest to have people to actually play against? We certainly don’t have an over abundance of players in many regions.
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So I was away for a few days… is it still only equippable on the MARK VII Core?
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I dunno’, maybe, maybe not. But I’m not obligated to be terribly kind to bad faith actors.
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Why would you want to frustrate people? But instead support corporate greed and devalue a game in the process.
Customisation is good but not done like this!
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It certainly is, but I’m still trying to figure why it’s an issue?
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