It should be how well you do in a match not based on winning. Because a lot of times you lose because you have shirt team
The K/D is the best way to rank a player in my opinion.
Ranks should be based on Winning and Losing. Wherever this has been said before is where this thread should have ended.
I don’t give a flying f*## if you went 15-5, if you lost you lost. Let’s say Tom Brady goes for 300+ yds and 4 TDs and the Patriots still lose. I don’t hear him making excuses saying I did my part I should still get credit for a win. That’s some bullshxt “everyone’s a winner” mentality to think you shouldn’t have to win a TEAM game to go up in rank.
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> The ranks are so broken i was playing team doubles with a friend and after the ten games i only got platinum and he got diamond, we had won the same amount of games and my KDA was way higher in the playlist can anyone explain how that works?
I would also like an explanation for this…
I’m still getting people quitting matches and a 3 on 4 match is hard to win
I agree, there should at the very least be some sort of individual performance based on the objective of the playlist thrown into the equation along with w/l. Many here complain about being dragged down by weak links on the team, except my experience was actually on the opposite end of the spectrum. I played absolutely abysmally in my first 10 games, no matter what I did I’d die a ton and my kills for the most part were clean ups, but by some luck the other players on my team were beasts and we won the majority of the 10 games and I got placed into the DIAMOND tier!! Way higher than I deserved. I should have been ranked very much lower, at least for that particular playlist, so that I could actually EARN a diamond ranking rather than basically riding on the coat tails of others to get it. Maybe I should just count my blessings and be happy with the high rank, but it just makes the game feel less fun knowing I can totally suck and still earn a high rank so long as the other people on my team play well… I am also not a fan of the fact that it looks like I am now stuck playing with some legit Diamond ballers on that playlist and getting owned on the daily. Sigh.
Halo Ranks should be based on elo and division, most of the popular eSports games have followed this system. These games have been working and have been becoming even more popular. I feel Halo is going to die in a competitive sense if 343 doesn’t change anything.
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> The K/D is the best way to rank a player in my opinion.
How? All that does is encourage lone wolf gameplay and not helping your team win.
play harder so you win. its not that hard
It should be based on points you get every match and it would go like this:
HOW TO FIX RANKS
- Each game you have a chance of gaining rank points no matter if you win or lose
- You drastically lose ranks points if your team loses (complete opposite for winning) but you still have a chance of gaining RP(rank points) if you get enough in game points (Which takes me to my next topic)
- Your IGP(in game points) will be measured with the rest of your team’s IGP
- IGP will be measured like this:
HOW IGP WORKS
1)Your IGP can drastically improve or destroy your rank.
- IGP’s are added up from your team
- Your penalty for losing a match will depend on if your IGP is at least 1/4 of your team’ TIGP(Total IGP).
For example say your team’s TIGP is 500, this would then mean that anybody with an IPG below 125 (1/4 of 500) would be penalized. (Example: you have 150 IGP, Teammate #1 has 160 IGP, Teammate #2 has 130 IGP, and Teammate #3 has 60 IGP. This would then mean that you, Teammate #1 and Teammate #2 would all gain RP no matter if you lost or won, but if you did lose then you would only gain a bit of RP (If you win then you gain a lot of RP). Teammate #3 on the other hand would lose a butt load of RP and go down a sub rank (Example:Plantinum4 —>Platinum3) if this happens twice in a row. If it constantly occurs then they would go down a whole rank (gold -----> silver) until it no longer occurs constantly.)
4)Let’s say only ONE person is able to get 1/4 of their team’s TIGP(Because they are above the skill levels of everyone else at their appropriate rank). The 3 players who did not accomplish at getting 1/4 of their team’s TIGP would be punished accordingly: The Best of the worst (second place) would not receive any punishments or promotions, the average joe (3rd) place will receive a minor RP reduction, the worst of the worst (4th place) will receive the fat replenishment that was mentioned in 3) of “HOW IGP WORKS” - Let’s say you are constantly (at least twice in a row) getting 1st place in your team (which undeniably means you are at least getting 1/4 of your team’s TIGP), this would then double your RP until you are NOT at a high enough Rank so that you dont always get first place, this would then put you with other people of your appropriate TRUE skill level. (Example: say you had a few bad games in your placement ranking and you get put in the silver ranking, you are get 1st place and your RP massively increases. You make it all the way to Platinum-5 and you are no longer always achieving first place in your team due to the fact that you have reached your appropriate TRUE skill and matches are more level and even)
What do you guys think about this? Would this work? If you have any questions just ask.
FYI: When I say IGP I am talking about the points you get for getting kills, capturing flags/strongholds, ect
While I think making performance count a little bit would be nice, this is not call of duty and winning has always been everything in Halo.
The problem is full party should always match against full party, mixed against mixed, and randoms against randoms.
Completely agree. I have a great K/D and I’m always a top player and get nothing in return for carrying my team.
For the ranks being dependent on Wins/Losses, a simple solution can be to gather up a group of buddies and play; if you can’t, just hope teamwork is found through their actions.
I would like to see this change because I quite often in Swat and Slayer put up a 20-5 yet we still lose and I go down a rank. The same happens in breakout, I end up trying to make up for my team which occasionally works but I usually end up going down a rank, I have a friend who has a platinum 2 rating in swat because he gets good teams even though he usually has a negative K/D at the end.
Agree should be personal performance I play SWAT a lot and won 7 games went upto platinum 2 won a other 2 games then lost 1 game and back to platinum 1
I really dislike this ranking system. Getting placed in Platinum after my qualifying matches was fair enough but it was afterwards when getting top of most games I play still got me deranked if I was placed with 1st time players or bad ones (no offence). It takes luck to be able to move up ranks, no skill and that’s the biggest problem! My luck came through for me yesterday as I went from Platinum 2 to Diamond 1 but I’ll probably lose it again when I get matched with people who can’t play the game!
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> Ranks should be based on Winning and Losing. Wherever this has been said before is where this thread should have ended.
> I don’t give a flying f*## if you went 15-5, if you lost you lost. Let’s say Tom Brady goes for 300+ yds and 4 TDs and the Patriots still lose. I don’t hear him making excuses saying I did my part I should still get credit for a win. That’s some bullshxt “everyone’s a winner” mentality to think you shouldn’t have to win a TEAM game to go up in rank.
A little harsh, but it matches my opinion about skill based ranking systems.
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> They should be comprised of both W/L and individual performance. Why this community continues to debate whether it should be one or the other totally escapes my understanding. Both factors are important, and therefore both have a place within ranking equation.
^^^ I total agree with this. The above is by far the most logical and fair way to assess and allocate rank in arena
if you don’t have a good team, you will never improve your ranking. Imaging now that you play very well but you keep losing each time. It’s kinda unfair
The ranking system should be change plzzzzzzzz Mr 343 industry