All I have to say is yes there are great points out there about why so would be ill relevant if I were to add one more.
well it does take time
To everyone who thinks KDR is the only way you should rank up play free-for-all, its all about individual gameplay. In team slayer the key word is TEAM. If your TEAM loses why should your rank go up? This game was designed for competitive TEAM play, get over yourself and play as a TEAM FTW.
Frost908
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> > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
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> I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
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> Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
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> The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
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> May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
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> > > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
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> > I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
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> > Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
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> > The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
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> > May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
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> Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
Because the system is clearly flawed and making a mockery of their push to be more competitive. Not everyone has a dozen friends on Xbox to queue up with. System is terrible and either it needs some serious work, or needs to be taken out to pasture.
Making rankings based on win loss places players in divisions that they shouldn’t normally be in. This definitely needs to be changed.
Eh i just don’t let the ranks really impead my enjoyment of the game… then again I like unlocking stuff vs the epeen things, so there’s that.
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> > > > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
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> > >
> > > I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
> > >
> > > Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
> > >
> > > The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
> > >
> > > May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
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> >
> > Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
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> Because the system is clearly flawed and making a mockery of their push to be more competitive. Not everyone has a dozen friends on Xbox to queue up with. System is terrible and either it needs some serious work, or needs to be taken out to pasture.
Which is what I’m saying. The issue is not that its based on win/loss but rather that the system doesn’t rank you properly
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> > > > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
> > >
> > > Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
> > >
> > > The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
> > >
> > > May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
> >
> >
> > Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
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> Because the system is clearly flawed and making a mockery of their push to be more competitive. Not everyone has a dozen friends on Xbox to queue up with. System is terrible and either it needs some serious work, or needs to be taken out to pasture.
Then make new friends or go play something else.
I’m so sick of hearing everyone complain about rank. I played my 10 qualifying matches for Breakout with three of my buddies, was top of the team almost all the time, and only lost two rounds. All three of my buddies got Diamond and I got silver. Is it broken yes but I worked my way all the way up to platinum and I am currently working to my diamond. I didn’t let the silver bother me cause now I’m playing with all onyx and still winning.
The ranking system is fine as a W/L system.
Everything that people are complaining about is the matchmaking system, this game isn’t even three weeks old yet, no Halo game launched with perfect matchmaking system.
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> > W/L is the only competetive system that ever will work. Performance will force people to steal the kills/powerwdapons from their teammates.
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> We are not necessarily saying that KDR should be the ONLY factor in this ranking system. However, KDR needs to hold some weight in a ranking system to ensure that players who do not hold their own for the team will be ranked accordingly. Ultimately, W/L ratio should always be the #1 factor in determining your rank. But to have your rank ONLY based on W/L is unfair, mainly because of the situations the OP has mentioned, in which a player who goes really negative in a game brings down his entire team’s rank, even though his teammates barely contributed to losing the game.
THIS IS PERFECTLY SAID TryHardFan. nothing else need said.
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> > > > > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
> > > >
> > > > Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
> > > >
> > > > The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
> > > >
> > > > May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
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> > >
> > > Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
> >
> >
> > Because the system is clearly flawed and making a mockery of their push to be more competitive. Not everyone has a dozen friends on Xbox to queue up with. System is terrible and either it needs some serious work, or needs to be taken out to pasture.
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> Then make new friends or go play something else.
> I’m so sick of hearing everyone complain about rank. I played my 10 qualifying matches for Breakout with three of my buddies, was top of the team almost all the time, and only lost two rounds. All three of my buddies got Diamond and I got silver. Is it broken yes but I worked my way all the way up to platinum and I am currently working to my diamond. I didn’t let the silver bother me cause now I’m playing with all onyx and still winning.
> The ranking system is fine as a W/L system.
You are Diamond in SWAT alone. Next best is Plat 1 in Slayer and Team Arena. You are also Gold 1 in Breakout, not sure how you are claiming Plat when you’ve yet to even break Gold 2…lol
I don’t want to sound like I’m trashing you. But you make ridiculous and outlandish comments. The classic “Go make some friends” Yea…I just bought a Xbox a couple days ago have 39 games and you make childish remarks. Seems you may need to work with your pre-made a little more in games other than SWAT.
Just yes please
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> > > > > Halo is about the TEAM. All you’re encouraging is people playing for their own k/d instead of playing the objective or helping their team out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I’m all for “team” don’t mix that up. But when your matchmaker can’t group players of similar skill levels together why bother making a system at all?
> > > >
> > > > Why should I get placed into a team that’s nearly all Diamonds or top Plat players? Why should I get placed with all Gold 1’s VS a team of all Plat 6’s?
> > > >
> > > > The system is exceptionally flawed. And unless you manage to que as a full group with mates you know are just as skilled, you are literally just asking to never progress with any reliability.
> > > >
> > > > May as well roll a dice and call the results before you even finish the game, as it’s likely more reliable.
> > >
> > >
> > > Then thats an issue with their ranking system, not what the ranking looks at. If they fix it so matches afr more even then why even worry about individual stats when it should be about the bigger goal of winning the game?
> >
> >
> > Because the system is clearly flawed and making a mockery of their push to be more competitive. Not everyone has a dozen friends on Xbox to queue up with. System is terrible and either it needs some serious work, or needs to be taken out to pasture.
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> Which is what I’m saying. The issue is not that its based on win/loss but rather that the system doesn’t rank you properly
this might be true.
W/L is the only appropriate method to determine matchmaking ranks (as all other metrics will give value to one skill area over another and bias ranks).
a good matching system to prevent solo players from getting stomped by parties and fair changes to rank based on matches is needed.
there are plenty of ELO ranking systems that can be adopted, so that leaves the matchmaking system.
I’m in a similar position except I was put into a CSR too high for my skill
Cool
In the next season, no one should earn Onyx Ranks at the end of the first 10 games. 343i should consider a system like SC2, LOL, CS:GO and place people at a lower Rank even if they win 10/0… Something like 3/7 Bronze, 6/4 Silver, 10/0 Gold and make people earn the rights for other Ranks.
The ranks are so broken i was playing team doubles with a friend and after the ten games i only got platinum and he got diamond, we had won the same amount of games and my KDA was way higher in the playlist can anyone explain how that works?
Also, they should fix the whole, “CSR doesn’t matter for who you’re paired with/against” ordeal. I get matched into games with Pro Players and Onyx at a Platinum Rank.
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> Recently, it’s been very infuriating for me to play and try and achieve the rank I’d like to reach in Arena playlists. The fact that you MUST win in order to gain an increase to your rank has nothing to do with your own personal skill level and performance in game. If by any chance you get stuck with players who simply aren’t good in a match, you’re the one who suffers from the loss and a rank decrease because your teammates couldn’t pull their own weight while you’re the highest scoring playing in the game. I honestly believe that players should be given the opportunity to rank up based on their performance in game. Suffering rank decreases from loss due to teammates who suck seriously shouldn’t have anything to do with your personal rank. Communication is key yes, but 90% of the time, NO ONE speaks a word to aid each other.
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> 343i should seriously consider changing the system. I know it’s how the old styles of Halo used the system, but for a hardcore competitive player such as myself, it’s infuriating if you’re the best scorer on the team, lose and have a rank removed from your stats.
I feel you but this is a double edged sword. If you would change it to a performance based ranking people would start to betray their own team mates for power weapons again and you basically had to turn off assasinations because your own team would try to steal those secure kills from you. If I play alone and I lost I often invite the first place of the winning team
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> The ranks are so broken i was playing team doubles with a friend and after the ten games i only got platinum and he got diamond, we had won the same amount of games and my KDA was way higher in the playlist can anyone explain how that works?
It is not broken. These fitst ten games actually take your performance into account