If anyone does not feel like reading it, basically two friends purposely lost all their placement matches for Holiday Doubles with the intention of journeying from Bronze to Champion. They both won 0 out of 10 games and had extremely negative KDA’s. One of the placed Platinum, while the other Champion.
When was that screenshot taken? That could be from a pre launch ranking, when there were about 300 players, and they could have been one of the first to be ranked?
On closer look, I see it is holiday doubles, which isn’t supposed to be ranked
The update mentions that Holiday Doubles is a ranked playlist.
Ranks haven’t mattered since pre-standby Halo 2 days.
That it does, my only guess is photoshop?
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> That it does, my only guess is photoshop?
What? It is a ranked playlist and from the looks of they were wrongly placed. I doubt photoshop is the perpetrator.
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> Ranks haven’t mattered since pre-standby Halo 2 days.
I’m not much of an arena advocate in H5 but clearly there are issues with the ranking system. I would prefer 1-50 any day over this.
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1-50 doesn’t work. It is the same thing presented differently, snd since it is permanent, it eventually becomes meaningless.
Out of everything we have had so far, I enjoyed the 1-50 system the most. Granted I was not a multiplayer player at the time of the Halo 2 era, i enjoyed the 1-50 system in H3.
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> 1-50 doesn’t work. It is the same thing presented differently, snd since it is permanent, it eventually becomes meaningless.
I guess I’m just a stickler for the good old days, but I hate this new arena system trying to take advice from MMO’s by having ranks each season. 1-50 was a good and simple system, and of course it got derailed by cheating, but none of those techniques are possible anymore due to dedicated servers.
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> > 1-50 doesn’t work. It is the same thing presented differently, snd since it is permanent, it eventually becomes meaningless.
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> I guess I’m just a stickler for the good old days, but I hate this new arena system trying to take advice from MMO’s by having ranks each season. 1-50 was a good and simple system, and of course it got derailed by cheating, but none of those techniques are possible anymore due to dedicated servers.
The main issue is that seasons are necessary, because Halo 3 had too many alt account 50’s, so that it made it way more difficult to move up. It also prohibited players from moving up who got better with time. If you sucked when you first started Halo 3, those games still counted, after 1000 games, especially if you didn’t automatically get better. Seasons promote better playing, as rank is based on current skill, as opposed to lifetime skill. The 1-50 style doesn’t fit with seasons, as the ranks have to reset more quickly than many people who were skilled enough could get to 50. The divisions works better because it compares you to everyone else after 10 games, and puts you near where you belong, instead of starting you at the bottom.
I think the whole ranking system is quite stupid myself. I can’t stand the whole 10 placement matches where you can be matched against people that are extremely higher or lower skill that ones self. I doubt I’ll even bother with any ranked playlist now that I know everything will reset every season.
I don’t see what was wrong with the simple 1-50 styled ranks where a person starts at 1 and works their way up to their appropriate rank. If 343 was worried about de-rankers, they could have just set the ranks to lock someone in at every 5. Meaning once someone went past 5, you can’t go lower, once you reach 10, you can’t go lower, 15, can’t go lower, etc.
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> I think the whole ranking system is quite stupid myself. I can’t stand the whole 10 placement matches where you can be matched against people that are extremely higher or lower skill that ones self. I doubt I’ll even bother with any ranked playlist now that I know everything will reset every season.
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> I don’t see what was wrong with the simple 1-50 styled ranks where a person starts at 1 and works their way up to their appropriate rank. If 343 was worried about de-rankers, they could have just set the ranks to lock someone in at every 5. Meaning once someone went past 5, you can’t go lower, once you reach 10, you can’t go lower, 15, can’t go lower, etc.
When you have no rank, and it need to qualify you, there’s a necessity to play against both low and high skilled players, how else would it know about where you are in terms of skill. Idealy you would have to play 10 matches against players of varying skill in order to get a good first estimate of where you belong. From there you then prgoress.
Perhaps the problem was that there was a major amount of uneven games, like qualifiers, by starting at 1 and then progressing.
And locking ranks like that defeat their purpose. What if you took a two month break, got back and discovered everyone who are still playing and at your rank is better than you, the whole relative skill chart moved a couple of notches, and you didn’t exactly get any better during your break either, so your new rank would be a 32 instead of a 43. You’re stuck at 40 then even toigh you should be 8 levels lower.
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> When you have no rank, and it need to qualify you, there’s a necessity to play against both low and high skilled players, how else would it know about where you are in terms of skill. Idealy you would have to play 10 matches against players of varying skill in order to get a good first estimate of where you belong. From there you then prgoress.
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> And locking ranks like that defeat their purpose. What if you took a two month break, got back and discovered everyone who are still playing and at your rank is better than you, the whole relative skill chart moved a couple of notches, and you didn’t exactly get any better during your break either, so your new rank would be a 32 instead of a 43. You’re stuck at 40 then even toigh you should be 8 levels lower.
I’m sorry but I really don’t understand what your trying to say.
1: There is no need for qualifying matches if everyone starts out at 1 and works their way up.
2: How can starting at a rank 1 and working your way up cause more uneven games than the way it is now. This whole qualifying system is nothing but uneven games.
3: How can locking the ranks like I said defeat the porpose of what 343 is trying to accomplish by locking people into tiers, with this new ranking system, like they do to keep people from deranking? It is literally the same thing, just reskined. The only reason I mentioned it was to give an example to how the system they are implementing now would work with a 1-50 system.
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> 1: There is no need for qualifying matches if everyone starts out at 1 and works their way up.
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> 2: How can starting at a rank 1 and working your way up cause more uneven games than the way it is now. This whole qualifying system is nothing but uneven games.
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> 3: How can locking the ranks like I said defeat the porpose of what 343 is trying to accomplish by locking people into tiers, with this new ranking system, like they do to keep people from deranking? It is literally the same thing, just reskined. The only reason I mentioned it was to give an example to how the system they are implementing now would work with a 1-50 system.
1: No there isn’t, but you save a lot of time with qualifying matches.
2: You really don’t see it? If everyone starts at 1, that means top 4 players as well, you’re going to have everyone match everyone. Then those top players who haven’t reached their rank, will match other players who have.
3: I don’t agree with division locking either. There’s really no purpose with ranking as it is now, either you get a high rank, Diamond and do not belong there and you get smashed to bits every match, without being able to play against players your own rank, then again, those might also be wrongly matched. So, in essence, a better qualifying system with limitations would be needed, for instance, no one gets anything over gold after qualifying matches. Then they can work their way up.
After destroying 10 out of 10 ranking matches in swat and a KDA of 10.1 i get placed in diamond??? What a joke