Ranking System.

Can somebody PLEASE explain to me how this game decides to rank me after my ten matches? I played 10 matches of swat with a 10.0 kda. Literally went OFF every game getting most kills. Best onyx players and diamond players and it ranks me a PLATINUM 5! Oh and it ranked my friend a diamond 5 who in the same ten matches had a 1.4 kda! It has to be nearly completely random. I can’t explain it any other way.

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> Can somebody PLEASE explain to me how this game decides to rank me after my ten matches? I played 10 matches of swat with a 10.0 kda. Literally went OFF every game getting most kills. Best onyx players and diamond players and it ranks me a PLATINUM 5! Oh and it ranked my friend a diamond 5 who in the same ten matches had a 1.4 kda! It has to be nearly completely random. I can’t explain it any other way.

By the way it wasn’t this profile.

Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.

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> Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.

it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players

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> > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players

I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
Edit: Also, OP, you mentioned your 10.0 KDA, but KDA, or KD for that matter have no effect on your rank.

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> > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.

but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times

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> > > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times

This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.

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> > > > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.

yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.

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> > > > > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.

He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.

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> > > > > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> > yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.
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> He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.

i never knew that…

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> > > > > > > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > > > > > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> > > yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.
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> > He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.
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> i never knew that…

I’m pretty sure that’s how it works at least. I kind of remember that being said a long time ago with the explanation that the game doesn’t want to throw players into the higher rank tiers based off their first 10 matches. The game wants to make sure you belong there first. I could be completely wrong though.

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> > > > > > > > > Your rank is mostly based off of previous season ranks, so if you where playing on a alt which it sounds like you where it makes sense since it hasn’t ranked yet. It would be really helpful if you linked the account so we can see the actual matches.
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> > > > > > > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > > > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > > > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > > > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> > > > yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.
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> > > He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.
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> > i never knew that…
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> I’m pretty sure that’s how it works at least. I kind of remember that being said a long time ago with the explanation that the game doesn’t want to throw players into the higher rank tiers based off their first 10 matches. The game wants to make sure you belong there first. I could be completely wrong though.

i got onyx in the preseason but not sure if that counts

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> > > > > > > > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > > > > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > > > > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > > > > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> > > > > yeah, if its your first time ranking you shouldn’t expect a onyx maybe a low diamond or high plat, but nothing too special.
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> > > > He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.
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> > > i never knew that…
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> > I’m pretty sure that’s how it works at least. I kind of remember that being said a long time ago with the explanation that the game doesn’t want to throw players into the higher rank tiers based off their first 10 matches. The game wants to make sure you belong there first. I could be completely wrong though.
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> i got onyx in the preseason but not sure if that counts

I feel like preseason wouldn’t count because it was the very first season. In that case they needed to have some people in those ranks in order for it to make sense. But as I said, maybe I’m wrong. It would be interesting to test on an alt, but I’m not good enough to rank above plat 5 anyway so I can’t test it lol.

I’m not going to question the integrity of the ranking system in this game because math doesn’t lie. The problem is that while it’s designed to tell us something about the player which is true, it has no obligation whatsoever to tell us the whole truth. I’m not sure any system could be devised that would be able to do that. And that’s what you just discovered. Ranking systems are just mathematical and statistical formulae that are designed to assign you value based on someone else’s arbitrary decisions as to what is important and what is not important in the game. Your 10.0 kda, for example, has no value in this system. That seems as insane to me as it does to you, but smarter people than us came up with the system and what is common sense in the face of statistics?

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> > > > > > > > > > it would also help to play with and against higher ranking players
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> > > > > > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > > > > > > but if you play with lower ranking players you’ll probably match other low ranking players 7/10 times
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> > > > > > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> > > > > He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.
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> > > > i never knew that…
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> > > I’m pretty sure that’s how it works at least. I kind of remember that being said a long time ago with the explanation that the game doesn’t want to throw players into the higher rank tiers based off their first 10 matches. The game wants to make sure you belong there first. I could be completely wrong though.
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> I feel like preseason wouldn’t count because it was the very first season. In that case they needed to have some people in those ranks in order for it to make sense. But as I said, maybe I’m wrong. It would be interesting to test on an alt, but I’m not good enough to rank above plat 5 anyway so I can’t test it lol.

yeah, probably not lol

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The profile is thisfatgirlomg

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Like I said. I did play against higher ranking players. Look at the game history from the profile thisfatgirlomg

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> I’m not going to question the integrity of the ranking system in this game because math doesn’t lie. The problem is that while it’s designed to tell us something about the player which is true, it has no obligation whatsoever to tell us the whole truth. I’m not sure any system could be devised that would be able to do that. And that’s what you just discovered. Ranking systems are just mathematical and statistical formulae that are designed to assign you value based on someone else’s arbitrary decisions as to what is important and what is not important in the game. Your 10.0 kda, for example, has no value in this system. That seems as insane to me as it does to you, but smarter people than us came up with the system and what is common sense in the face of statistics?

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> > I’m not going to question the integrity of the ranking system in this game because math doesn’t lie. The problem is that while it’s designed to tell us something about the player which is true, it has no obligation whatsoever to tell us the whole truth. I’m not sure any system could be devised that would be able to do that. And that’s what you just discovered. Ranking systems are just mathematical and statistical formulae that are designed to assign you value based on someone else’s arbitrary decisions as to what is important and what is not important in the game. Your 10.0 kda, for example, has no value in this system. That seems as insane to me as it does to you, but smarter people than us came up with the system and what is common sense in the face of statistics?

There is no way for you to measure my intelligence. You also don’t know that I’m a CPA with a minor in economics. Would you like me to teach you anything about statistical software? I use minitab almost every day.

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> > > > > I think just against higher ranked players. If you play with low ranked players, but against high ranked ones and win you’ll gain more CSR than if both teams were high ranked.
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> > > This is true. Either way, if this was his first time ranking with his alt he shouldn’t expect to rank very high. I don’t even know if it’s possible to rank in diamond or above on your first time ranking because the game doesn’t have a baseline for you yet. It uses previous season rankings to set a baseline, then compares your first 10 matches of the new season to those to determine if you were where you’re supposed to be.
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> He mentioned plat 5 and I believe that’s the highest you can get off your very first 10 ranked matches. Anything beyond that has to be grinded out further or obtained when ranking for a later season.

Why doesn’t anybody know how the ranks work?